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A lawsuit has been served against our Canadian "sister" site, Free Dominion.
Free Dominion ^ | 11-23-07 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 11/23/2007 3:43:25 AM PST by backhoe

Edited on 11/23/2007 1:22:32 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Its purpose is to silence free speech.
And, to shut down discussion of any and all subjects which offend the perpetually aggrieved, professional whiners & moaners.
 

The skull behind the Smiley Face of "political correctness" is revealed-- and bear in mind, the Legal Jackal, Richard Warman, behind all this is getting rich, using the law to cudgel people in to silence-- but the threat, to free speech, is real:
 
 The Free Dominion Eight - Which FDers made Warman's lawsuit?... [ 1, 2 ]

 

Connie Fournier wrote:
Oh, yeah, he wants $150,000 in damages, but he is willing to settle this for the bargain price of $10,900.


I can't think of any words that are contemptuous enough to use in response to that.



Backhoe says:
What a sorry, conniving, thieving little bastard.


Abusing the might and majesty of the law to extort money from innocent people.

And, to silence them.

All under the aegis of "rights..."

At least with a common street criminal, you know you are dealing with a crook- he is nothing more than a silk-shirted thief.

Connie, you let us know what you need- me and Miss Emily are far from rich, but we'll scrape the floorboards, and I can always bump the fundraisers with drivel and doggerel and musings from the swamps of Georgia...

Get the meanest, most aggressive lawyer you can find.

 
The above story is a subset of this:
 
Be sure to read it all...
...use the links.

This affects all of us.
 
If Richard Warman, Hyena in a $1,000 suit, can silence one site- he can silence another.
 

****UPDATE****

More information has come up, here:

  Court Papers from Richard Warman [ 1, 2, 3 ]


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To: backhoe
..... in the form of a lawsuit by Richard Warman.

Old friend Wikipedia has quite a write up on this man. I notice it is very respectful and cautious. Still, the site cannot be knocked on that account. A multitude of information. First, this man has won ALL ten cases before the "Human Rights Commission".

I might add it's designation to those Canadians who have become acquainted with it's workings. A kangaroo court. I read some amazing statistics on the Ontario Human Rights Commission relating to it's verdicts on cases. Virtually all defendants were white persons and of little financial means to boot. Though caution is needed and this needs to be verified, All lost or the case was dropped. I would not doubt it.

Warman has received awards from various bodies. Just because a Jewish body honoured Warman, he is thought wrongly to be Jewish. I would state from personal experience the Ontario Human Rights Commission to be a body of politically correct civil servants. Scared stiff for their jobs.

Bigoted by orders, against very often the people of their own group. I just have a thought,that the Human Rights Johnnies and others, will gently steer clear here. With a few mumbled cliches and FD will survive. I cannot wait to tangle with any Human Rights bodies in a public forum on this account. I could ask a simple question and have them lie in their teeth. Easy!

51 posted on 11/23/2007 8:32:00 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: backhoe
Support BUMP!

Hope they give truth to: “Never pick a fight with a person who writes in his pajamas.” Just ask Dan!

52 posted on 11/23/2007 8:44:55 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Admin Moderator

I am so envious!

I woke up to a sink full of dirty dishes and a sick kid.

Oh well, enjoy the weekend!


54 posted on 11/23/2007 9:23:11 AM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: backhoe

BTTT!!


55 posted on 11/23/2007 9:23:27 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: backhoe

Bump, getting credit card out now!! :)


56 posted on 11/23/2007 9:28:21 AM PST by PROCON
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To: backhoe

BTTT!!!!

(I wish I could remember my username & password......)

Grrrrrrrr


57 posted on 11/23/2007 9:47:55 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: backhoe

What is the basis of Warman’s lawsuit?
Who is he suing and what are charges and/or claims?


58 posted on 11/23/2007 9:51:35 AM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: backhoe
How is it right for Warman to enrich himself by using a government agency to attack people who are usually too poor to even hire a lawyer?

He is copying the molester over at Southern Poverty Law...

59 posted on 11/23/2007 9:52:07 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: backhoe

Scratch that. I’m in. And lucked out when trying the password (that I thought I’d forgotten)....


60 posted on 11/23/2007 9:52:50 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: backhoe

The left is at war with normal people. They are ruthless and without principle.


61 posted on 11/23/2007 9:52:56 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: backhoe

BTTT!


62 posted on 11/23/2007 10:07:54 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: backhoe

BUMP


63 posted on 11/23/2007 10:10:13 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: Brad's Gramma
(I wish I could remember my username & password......)

Here is Connie's email addy connie@freedominion.ca

65 posted on 11/23/2007 10:17:46 AM PST by free_life (Pro God is Pro life ~ ~ The Democrats are phony Americans.)
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To: citizenmike

Interesting. That’s why I like to have information before reacting (usually)...:)

I recall a similar situation here recently that aimed to get FReepers up in arms re a Republican congressman, Dolittle was the name, I think. Other people’s spats cannot necessarily be extrapolated into political issues.


66 posted on 11/23/2007 10:19:26 AM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: TLI
Canada has "hate speech" laws that allow suits. SPLC would certainly file similar suits in the US if it could.

I wonder what in the world could be the basis of this lawsuit? Free Dominion does not allow racist posts.

67 posted on 11/23/2007 10:20:04 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: backhoe

BUMP!


68 posted on 11/23/2007 10:20:40 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: backhoe

BTT


69 posted on 11/23/2007 10:20:45 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: citizenmike

What comments are libelous?

Define good guy!

He has not just gone after neo-nazis. He wants some words outlawed and you are agree with this?


70 posted on 11/23/2007 10:22:21 AM PST by free_life (Pro God is Pro life ~ ~ The Democrats are phony Americans.)
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To: Admin Moderator

I was the first one up here too after a sumptous meal last night of grilled cheese sandwiches and Campbell’s Beef soup with Vegetables; got up to go outside in the freezing cold and get the paper to read in the garage, heated only by a single Walmart quartz tube heater.

I washed my face in what was left of last night’s dishwater and sat down here after my wife and daughter went to buy half-off store brand diapers for the baby.

Just counting my blessings. :)


72 posted on 11/23/2007 10:30:40 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: fanfan
Long Live Free Dominion eh!


73 posted on 11/23/2007 10:31:38 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: gondramB
the most energetic thing I could do was say “I never want to eat again.”

Me too! But then I saw the pumpkin pie...

74 posted on 11/23/2007 10:37:17 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for HuFrudMcRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"Does anyone else agree that freedom of speech means that we will have to be willing to let those we disagree with have their say?"

I'd say you've pretty much defined freedom of speech in a nutshell, yes. Can't imagine any conservative who'd disagree with you.

75 posted on 11/23/2007 10:40:54 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: GiveEmDubya; backhoe

I sort of knew there was a site similar to FR in Canada, but honestly forgot it’s existence until now. There must be some way to help them.


77 posted on 11/23/2007 10:47:00 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: citizenmike

Where does the Wiki article on Warman mention Free Dominion?


78 posted on 11/23/2007 10:47:25 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: free_life
A Canadian woman has been fined for posting bible scriptures on an US based internet server regarding homosexuality and warned she will be jailed if she posts any scriptures now outlawed by the CHRC they have listed as offending. The bible is now “hate” literature.

Oh, my good lord. Canada is truely in serious trouble.

80 posted on 11/23/2007 10:52:49 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: citizenmike

Explain your post to me. AFTER you reread what I posted in response to the same quote you addressed to me in this post, but which was not written by me.


81 posted on 11/23/2007 11:00:08 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: backhoe
This is an earlier filing from warman posted on Free Dominion, 9-18-07. Richard Warman Attacks FD


Quote:
ONTARIO
SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE


IN THE MATTER OF and intended action

BETWEEN

RICHARD WARMAN

Plaintiff
and

CONSTANCE WILKINS-FOURNIER
and
MARK FOURNIER
and
JOHN DOE


Defendants

NOTICE

Pursuant to section 5(1) of the Libel and Slander Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. L.12,


PLEASE BE ADVISED that you have spoken words and/or written words and/or published words that are defamatory and libelous to me appearing on the website "www.freedominion.ca".

The material appears on web pages within the thread entitled:

1) Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion

This material first came to my knowledge on 16 August 2007 as being defamatory and libelous. The matters complained of are as follows:

The web-page article entitled, "Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion"
www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start-270:

1. Accuses me of being the "Censorship Champion".

2. States in reference to me that "...this asshole is so obnoxious that even his fellow fanatics at the "Human "Right" Commission couldn't stand him"

3. Accuses me of being a "professional complainer".

4. Accuses me of being a "devious character".

5. States that I have been "...opposed to the Freedom of Speech offered by the Internet for years".

6. States that "[i]evitably his crusade has lead [sic] to people offering unlawful death threats against him.

7. Accuses me of having threatened David Icke and also of having threatened "anyone who tried to publicly expose [my] activities.

8. Accuses me of having made false allegations of unlawful speech in the past and that the concerns I expressed publicly about the incitement to murder me from US neo-Nazi Bill White should be doubted.

9. Accuses me of being "involved with an urban terrorist group called the "Anti-Racist Action" who he recently sponsored to go and protest in front of another individual's house, thus the Paul Fromm reference."

10. Accuses me of having spoken to and financed the Anti-Racist Action group and that this group was responsible for "...the firebombing of another individual's house, including the posting of instructions to do it" and that this same group attacked the eyes of police horses with sharp sticks.

11. Accuses me of having sponsored bus transportation for a protest by this same Anti-Racist Action group outside the home of Paul Fromm at which a protestor held a sign stating "Die Nazi Scum".

12. Repeats the libel of Paul Fromm in calling me a "censor".

13. Accuses me of having sponsored bus transportation for the group Anti-Racist Action to the protest outside the home of Paul Fromm in retaliation for Paul Fromm acting as agent for respondents in federal human rights cases I have filed.

14. States that I counselled members of the group Anti-Racist Action group to commit an assault against David Icke because I didn't agree with what he was writing.

15. States that I have threatened the safety of other people on many occasions.

16. States that my action in bringing an application before the CRTC in relation to the threats of US neo-Nazi Bill White is reflective of a dictatorship.

17. In relation to the incitement to murder me by US neo-Nazi Bill White states that "...[i]f there is a serious physical threat, would it be because of activities fighting proven "hate speech"? Is there any truth to the allegations that he has taken his own believes to the streets? Allegations have been made about Mr. Warman engaging in some of the same physical activities, such as exposing the home addresses of his opponents, talking to their neighbours, and other such activities that Mr. Warman would be concerned if his opponents did to him. I don't know who is involved in the "Anti-Racism Action" group, but they seem to believe it is possible to fight "hate" with "hate".

18. Accuses me of being controlled by someone else or by some other group - "the proxy by which the B'nai Brith, CJC, CHRC works through."
- posting by EdS at 2:08
www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=285


PLEASE BY ADVISED THAT you have spoken words and/or written words and/or published words that contain serious allegations against me, clearly stating to the readers of the website www.freedominion.ca in their plain and ordinary meaning or by virtue of the surrounding circumstances which give the words a defamatory meaning inferentially or by innuendo, that you are questioning my morality, integrity and professionalism; that I commit disreputable and unconstitutional acts such as the suppression of free speech; that I am controlled by others; that I have committed criminal acts; that I have threatened the safety of others on many occasions; and, that I am involved with an urban terrorist group.

You have defamed and libelled me in my skill, judgement, and/or capacity in my profession.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT the words spoken and/or written and/or published, in their plain and ordinary meaning or by virtue of the surrounding circumstances which give the words a defamatory meaning inferentially or by innuendo, are completely and absolutely false, defamatory and libellous.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT I request a complete retraction to be published on the website www.freedominion.ca with as much clarity and prominence as the defamatory and libellous words spoken and/or written and/or published.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT it is my intention to commence an action for libel against you.

THIS NOTICE is served upon you pursuant to the paragraph 5(1) OF THE Libel and Slander Act, R.S.O. 1990, ch. L-12.

Date: 10 September 2007



Richard Warman
Barrister and Solicitor


Agent for service only: Heenan Blaikie, LLP
Barristers & Solicitors
55 Metcalfe Street
Suite 300
Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 6L5
T. 613 236.1668
F. 613 236.9632

83 posted on 11/23/2007 11:03:51 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Based on the above, I don’t see this going anywhere if this was file in the US. The man is certainly a public figure.


84 posted on 11/23/2007 11:05:10 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: backhoe

btt


85 posted on 11/23/2007 11:12:10 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: free_life

I’m in, but thank you....

I forgot that I used a real *cough* original username.

:)


86 posted on 11/23/2007 11:14:49 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: cake_crumb
I sort of knew there was a site similar to FR in Canada, but honestly forgot it’s existence until now. There must be some way to help them.

Here's the latest- they are starting a fund, to hire a lawyer.

There is also a link to some of the complaint- in the USA, it would be laughed out of court, but this Warman jackal is a government lawyer with lots of time on his hands...
Not to mention the incentive of the nearly $50,000 he's extorted from citizens so far...

Free Dominion: Richard Warman Fund
 
Court Papers from Richard Warman

87 posted on 11/23/2007 11:19:37 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: E.G.C.

BTTT


88 posted on 11/23/2007 11:23:31 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Based on the above, I don’t see this going anywhere if this was file in the US. The man is certainly a public figure."

Seems like it shouldn't go anywhere but the garbage in Canada, either, but who knows? I wish I knew more about Canadian law.

89 posted on 11/23/2007 11:25:07 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Daffynition
This is despicable. Has Connie mentioned a fund folks can contribute to for support? I didn’t see one on the links. Thanks for the heads up on this backhoe.

Right here:

Free Dominion: Richard Warman Fund

It is indeed detestable- Connie & Mark got married under the cloud of that ghastly Canadian Humans Rights Commission complaint against them ( which was dismissed when so much sand was raised over it ) only to get hit with this.

90 posted on 11/23/2007 11:33:31 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: All
Interesting brief piece "It's time to reform Canadian libel law"

"..Under the current legal regime, you can be sued for anything you say about another person that damages their reputation. If sued, the onus is on you to prove the truth of your statements; the fact that you genuinely believed them to be true is not good enough. Even truth is not an absolute defence --- if the court finds you told the truth but your intent was malicious, you might lose anyway. Canadian libel law is so draconian that people come from all over the world to file libel suits in Ontario.

The impact on freedom of expression, a core value of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, is severe. There's even a term for it: "libel chill". Libel chill means that people are afraid to criticize powerful people who might bankrupt them with a costly suit. It means that commentators have to think twice before needling public figures --- as cartoonist Josh Beutel learned when he was sued by controversial New Brunswick school teacher Malcolm Ross. Ever wonder why there's so little investigative journalism in Canada? The reason is simple: libel chill....[snip]"

If the above article above is a fair commentary on Canadian libel law, Canada is Shyster heaven! Are there no distinctions between public and private citizens? Where is any allowance for opinion? This law is medieval!

91 posted on 11/23/2007 11:34:30 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: backhoe
The gratest gift we could give to Dominion is a high powered lawyer willing to work on the cheap or even pro bono, because this case does have the potential to blow up in Warman's face simply as a freedom to speak issue - government lawyer or not. Having somebody speculate about your patriotism is as common as dirt and the speculation about him working for Bnai Brith is nothing more than another anti semitic spouting off.

Of interest to me, and possibly to our Canadian brothers and sisters (depending on their legal system) is why does Warman think this is libel and/or hate speech? Jews get this kind of abuse all the time. It's probably MORE common than dirt. Is Warman anti-Semitic? So why's Warman all quivering with righteous indignation? And nobody give me the "he sued Neo Nazis" argument either...he's a government employee who carried out government assignments. Doing your job so you don't lose it is a tad different than being passionate about something.

92 posted on 11/23/2007 11:37:15 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb

See post 91. I don’t like it but his suit may have a chance based on the description of Canadian libel law. In the US I bet such a filing would be dismissed quickly.


93 posted on 11/23/2007 11:38:42 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Under the current legal regime, you can be sued for anything you say about another person that damages their reputation. If sued, the onus is on you to prove the truth of your statements; the fact that you genuinely believed them to be true is not good enough. Even truth is not an absolute defence --- if the court finds you told the truth but your intent was malicious, you might lose anyway. Canadian libel law is so draconian that people come from all over the world to file libel suits in Ontario"

Ah ha. As I said, this has the potential to blow up in Warman's face.

94 posted on 11/23/2007 11:44:33 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: citizenmike
What comments are libelous? According to the summons/notice, how about this one: Accuses me [Warman] of being controlled by someone else or by some other group - "the proxy by which the B'nai Brith, CJC, CHRC works through." - posting by EdS at 2:08 www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=285

The B'nai Brith is a Jewish group which the poster is claiming Warman works for.

EdS is one of our Jewish members, citizenmike, and Free Dominion is probably the most pro-Israel secular website in Canada.

With all due respect, you really need to read more about about this guy. The comments he is complaining about were true.

95 posted on 11/23/2007 11:45:57 AM PST by conniew
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To: cake_crumb

I don’t see that could be the case unless those sued file against him. I don’t know what he has said about them other than his filing saying their comment against him are libelous.


96 posted on 11/23/2007 11:48:33 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: backhoe

Again? What happened with the last one?


97 posted on 11/23/2007 11:53:07 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
Again? What happened with the last one?

It was dismissed by their laughably-misnamed "human rights commission" when it started drawing a lot of notice and bad publicity. Unfortunately, a civil suit is not likely to respond to the same pressures- the Warman hyena is out for money, like he's extorted in the past. He is a silk-shirted strong arm man.

98 posted on 11/23/2007 11:56:17 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: backhoe
Way to go; you're listed in the 'Court Papaers" link:

Isn't Truth [a, b, c] a full and clear defense against Libel or Slander?       ;^)

99 posted on 11/23/2007 12:06:15 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: All

If you want to read libel, have a look at some Canadian forums where they go after the U.S. government and the people in the nation.

They make George Soros seem like Cinderella.

Now there’s real Canadian libel. Sick making.


100 posted on 11/23/2007 12:09:29 PM PST by imintrouble
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