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Holiday Shopping: Putting Our Money Where Our Mouth Is (vanity)
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Posted on 11/23/2007 3:44:32 PM PST by Lexinom

Holiday Shopping: Putting Our Money Where Our Mouth Is

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah FRiends!

This is the time of year that is special because is engenders the spirit of giving and selflessness of its sacred origins. Each of us, in his or her own way, has a special place in our heart for this joyful time.

As we put others' needs and desires first, as we look forward to the expression of surprise and delight on our loved ones' faces as they receive our gifts, as we peruse the ailes, let us consider the economic import of our duty.

Some of the nations producing the goods we will place in our carts are not characterized by the same selflessness and generosity that has governed our actions in time of crisis and natural disaster. Some nations do not value freedom or the individual, and seek only to profit on a seasonal tradition Some companies have little concern for America or the long-term consequences of tunnel-visioned pursuit of the Almighty Buck. Pursuit of profits in a free and fair market is one thing, but when that pursuit fails to consider maintenance of the road travelled or basic traffic signs, the road itself eventually deteriorates.

I hope we can discuss here ways to search out and buy only American and America-friendly goods. We must realize that many companies have caught on to the negative stigma attached to China and Chinese goods - a stigma that has ballooned over the last six months but which has existed in informed minds for years prior. Some companies will advertise boldly that their goods are made with American materials but fail to divulge that these materials are shipped to Beijing for assembly by what for all intents and purposes are slaves, or worse, political prisoners.

In my experience the workmanship of American-made goods is almost always superior to that of an inexpensive Chinese knock-off. Consider that this in some cases adds intangible value to the gift itself in the eyes of the person receiving it. Consider also that your American-made gifts may well outlast the latter by many years. There is value in quality over quantity, and you really do, generally speaking, get what you pay for. If you love America, buy the best - or at the very least buy from Canada, Japan, Europe, Mexico, and other less-hostile nations. Make intelligent choices this holiday season for America's sake.

Do not forget our troops: those men and women that we all so adore and admire, fighting for freedom on foreign soil. Many will be away from hearth, home, mother, father, wife again this year. They have their brothers-in-arms, united in a common and noble cause. Let us bolster their work in our way here at home by supporting our own economy and prolonging the American ideal for which they so diligently labor and yes, sometimes bleed. Let us remember them in our thoughts, in our prayers, and with continued care packages as we long for their safe return from a successful mission.

Lastly, remember to pray for the Chinese people - many of whom are our Christian brothers and sisters - and yes, for their government. The nation is indeed a threat, both economically and militarily, but God is above all and holds the hearts of kings.

Wishing each of my Christian brothers and sisters a blessed Christmas, and my Jewish friends a joyful and blessed Hanukkah.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: america; buyamerican; chanukah; china; christmas; christmaspresent; christmaspresents; economy; gift; gifts; hanukkah; idea; ideas; madeinamerica; madeintheusa; madeinusa; present; presents; retail; usa
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A brief essay and heartfelt appeal to fellow patriots.

I would like to know if anyone knows of a "nation of origin" database for products.

1 posted on 11/23/2007 3:44:35 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ajolympian2004; ...

Buy American ping

2 posted on 11/23/2007 3:53:07 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom
"I hope we can discuss here ways to search out and buy only American and America-friendly goods."

We need to start manufacturing more American-made goods first. Ignore the fix polls sponsored by corrupt importers. Elect Duncan Hunter.
3 posted on 11/23/2007 3:54:38 PM PST by familyop (Roma est perdita. Novus Cosa Nostra es perdita.)
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To: Lexinom

...fixed polls, even. There’s one running right now that won’t show votes for a Hunter/Gingrich pair, although the choice is presented.


4 posted on 11/23/2007 3:57:38 PM PST by familyop (Roma est perdita. Novus Cosa Nostra es perdita.)
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To: Lexinom

“...buy only American and America-friendly goods.”

Flashback to the 70s....


5 posted on 11/23/2007 3:57:39 PM PST by dakine
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To: familyop
American goods are still out there. What you propose is possible. When you buy an American made product you do two things: A) you reward the manufacturers themselves, and B) you reward the merchant for carrying their goods. If enough people do it, and do it consistently, business will get the message.

From a patriotic consumer standpoint, this takes a little extra work when shopping: reading product labels, being willing to go to another store. I do not think this is a whole lot to ask in light of others are doing for America.

6 posted on 11/23/2007 3:58:32 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: dakine

Vote with your wallet. It is your right, and mine.


7 posted on 11/23/2007 3:59:58 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom
Thanks and ditto.

Some useful information on this older site:



http://www.pleasewishmeamerrychristmas.org/


8 posted on 11/23/2007 4:00:34 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Lexinom
American goods are still out there.

Be patient. By Amish craftsmanship. They are heirlooms.

9 posted on 11/23/2007 4:00:45 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Lexinom

Good thoughts ... but I have to take exception to your characterization of Mexico as a ‘less-hostile’ nation. They are one of the most hostile to our way of life and are doing everything they can to destroy what we have built, IMHO.


10 posted on 11/23/2007 4:01:37 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Glenn
A couple of gifts I bought today (the recipents don't read FR):

Leatherman tools are manufactured in Portland Oregon. They are one of millions of excellent U.S.-made gifts, and last for many years.

Lodge Color is a Tennessee-based company that manufactures quality cookware.

This is excellent, anyone else have ideas about American gifts?

11 posted on 11/23/2007 4:07:26 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Duly noted, and you have a point. My main concern is China.


12 posted on 11/23/2007 4:08:13 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom

Boo Hoo..... Cry for a world gone for ever.

We live on trade. To forsake it is to die


13 posted on 11/23/2007 4:12:23 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: bert
First of all, you have implied a false-dichotomy: that to prefer American goods is to oppose free trade. No, that IS free market economics - consumers voting with their wallets. There is no rule dictating that nation of origin may NOT be a criteria in purchasing decisions. It is your right, and mine. If you want to vote for the Chi Coms, you support what they are doing, you believe they make a superior product then hey, it's your money.

Secondly, like it or not, there will be a hit this year on Chinese goods - for reasons other than what I laid out. I don't have a good footing on the extent, but the media attention on lead paints combined with the always-wear-a-helmet mentality of many (not all) a suburban mom will have more people looking for that "Made in China" sticker than usual. This, too, is part of a free market economy.

14 posted on 11/23/2007 4:21:34 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom

Fiestaware is American made, by the Homer Laughlin China company. It’s very durable (Homer Laughlin makes a lot of the dishes, cups, etc that are used in restaurants, so it has to be able to take a beating), and you can be sure that you won’t be eating off of anything that has lead in it.


15 posted on 11/23/2007 4:21:49 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Lexinom
Thanks for the ping. Good post...with one exception:

buy from Canada, Japan, Europe, Mexico, and other less-hostile nations

Mexico is hardly a less-hostile nation. They are invading our country and plan to take it over with the blessing and complicity of their President.

I have been label reading for a couple years now. While shopping at a local store I saw a display of candles. Upon inspecting the label, I discovered they were from Israel. Although I did not need candles at the time, I bought a bunch of them. ;*)

Recently I was shopping for a specific material. Every bolt I pulled out was from China. Finally I asked a clerk if there was nothing from any other country, preferably the USA. She came up with one from Pakistan, but made a face when saying the country. I quickly said, I'll take it! At least they are an ally. She was stunned.

16 posted on 11/23/2007 4:31:02 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
I've already been chastised once for including Mehico on the list, and am wishing there was an "edit" function! :)

Do you happen to remember the brandname of the candles?

So far, we have these American Made manufacturers:

Amish furniture
Leatherman tools
Lodge Manufacturing (Lodge Color, etc.) cookware
Homer Laughlin China (Fiestaware) cookware

Other ideas?

17 posted on 11/23/2007 4:36:12 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Just A Nobody

Just A Nobody and Justadumbblonde with the same thoughts, expressed in almost the same words. Hmmmmm ....


18 posted on 11/23/2007 4:43:18 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Lexinom
So far, we have these American Made manufacturers:

Amish furniture

Oh boy. My kids are going to love opening up their Amish furniture on Christmas morning.

19 posted on 11/23/2007 4:44:18 PM PST by Michael A. Velli (Mitt in '08)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Hmmmmmm indeed! LOL! Funny thing is, there were only 8 posts when I began my reply. Back to back phone calls delayed the posting and I didn’t check to see if anyone else had mentioned it.


20 posted on 11/23/2007 4:54:54 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Lexinom
Circle E Candles, made in Texas (every fragrance imaginable), are very nice. www.circleecandles.com

This website has done some research at Toys R Us and has a list of toys that are made in America:

21 posted on 11/23/2007 4:55:57 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
How to Buy American Toys
22 posted on 11/23/2007 4:57:03 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Michael A. Velli
How's about a positive recommendation for toys then?

Duplos (I think) are made in Canada. For toddlers.

Lots of music and music equipment is made right here in the U.S.A. - guitars, amps, mics, etc. Finer-quality orchestral instruments are made in Europe and Japan.

I recently bought a couple of professional studio microphones for recording piano from CAD out of Cleveland, Ohio - based AND made there. They were the same price as a competing Chinese-made type (called "Perception" fittingly enough), and have better specs. Better quality, same price Had I just bought the Chinese ones without looking further (for that and other reasons) I would have been stuck with an inferior product.

23 posted on 11/23/2007 5:02:38 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom
No, sorry I do not. I just went through all my candles to see if I had any of those left, but I don't.

However, I did find one made in the USA:
Candle-lite
A Lancaster Colony Company
Cincinnati, Ohio

24 posted on 11/23/2007 5:02:56 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Wow...we are on a roll tonight. LOL!


25 posted on 11/23/2007 5:05:07 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Circle E Candles. Got it :)

Candles make an excellent gift, BTW.

26 posted on 11/23/2007 5:05:52 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Just A Nobody; Michael A. Velli
Candle-line and Circle E Candles. We've got candles pretty well covered... What else?

For Michael A Velli/All, Partial database of merchants selling American-made toys

27 posted on 11/23/2007 5:09:26 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom
Lots of music and music equipment is made right here in the U.S.A. - guitars, amps, mics, etc.

In the U.S. shop at (Guitar Center).

Beware of "Sam Ash" Music..It's run by greedy foreigners that treat their employees like crap.

28 posted on 11/23/2007 5:11:07 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Just A Nobody

Separated at birth?????


29 posted on 11/23/2007 5:14:21 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Lexinom

My joy of giving does not extend to Red China, so I will be giving my grandchildren money for Christmas this year, in addition to Bill Bennett’s “America, the Last Best Hope” - unrevised American History. Their parents pose a slightly more difficult problem. :)


30 posted on 11/23/2007 5:14:51 PM PST by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08 (Read Ultra Sonic 007's profile))
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To: dragnet2
I like Guitar Center. Very cool shop. I bought the boom stands for the mics there. The only non-Chinese mics they had were too pricey so I got them at Musician's Friend. I still got my price, and American-made quality.

Thanks for the heads-up about Sam Ash. I'll remember that.

31 posted on 11/23/2007 5:16:11 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: bert

>We live on trade. To forsake it is to die.<

Because of a atupid, faulty trade agreement with Red China, the U.S. suffers billions in trade deficits every year! We are dying by trade with them, my friend.


32 posted on 11/23/2007 5:18:34 PM PST by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08 (Read Ultra Sonic 007's profile))
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
LOL! Twin sisters of different mothers???

BTW, thanks for the link in #22. Awesome...I have a new grandchild and I just saw great gifts and I can buy American from right where I sit. Doesn't get any better than that!

33 posted on 11/23/2007 5:23:26 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

You’re welcome! I have four grandboys, ages 5 and under. I will be using the list extensively.


34 posted on 11/23/2007 5:30:01 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Lexinom

Local craft fairs are full of locally made handcrafted and artisan items.

Pendleton Wool Mills blankets are still made in Pendleton, not the clothes though, the fabric is still made in the US, but they are sewn in Mexico now I believe. They still buy raw wool from local ranchers too.


35 posted on 11/23/2007 5:51:35 PM PST by Valpal1 (Blame the loss of civility on criminals and terrorists, not the cops.)
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To: Lexinom

Legos, from Denmark. Remember the Muhammad cartoonists!


36 posted on 11/23/2007 5:53:35 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("After a glimpse of Democrats in power, Republicans don't look so bad" -- Jack Kelly)
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To: Lexinom

Maglite flashlights are American made:

http://www.maglite.com/strengthen.asp

Mag Instrument is the only flashlight company with significant market share that still manufacturers its entire line of flashlights in the United States. Unlike its competitors, Mag Instrument has chosen not to outsource the manufacturing of its flashlights to foreign countries in order to take advantage of cheap labor and less stringent environmental standards, which may also result in inferior quality.

The outsourcing of manufacturing by other U.S. companies has caused hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of jobs in the United States to be lost. Indeed, if Mag Instrument had chosen the path of other flashlight companies, the jobs of its approximately 800 employees in Ontario, California would have been lost.


37 posted on 11/23/2007 5:58:53 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
From the site:

This is not a complete list of American-made items, but there is certainly a diverse variety of choices to make just about any child in America happy that might otherwise go without this Christmas. By buying American-made toys, games and sports-equipment this year, you’ll be supporting American workers by ensuring they get pay checks instead of pink slips, which will enable them to be able to afford Christmas gifts for their own children. There is no better way to break the cycle of using one underprivileged child to provide for another underprivileged child.

38 posted on 11/23/2007 6:01:12 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom
Step2 may be worth taking a look at. Small non-integral parts may be obtained elsewhere, but they label as such.
39 posted on 11/23/2007 6:15:36 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Not so dumb, IMO.


40 posted on 11/23/2007 6:18:33 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lexinom

Well, obviously putting “made in” labels on products is a vicious, racist, anti-sino action, and in the interests of free trade and passing the global test, they should be eliminated.


41 posted on 11/23/2007 6:20:29 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Just A Nobody
Thank you! You've influenced some of our own buying decisions this year.

BTW American-made Lincoln Logs are still available, albeit with a different name now.

42 posted on 11/23/2007 6:35:29 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Tenniel2
"Legos, from Denmark. Remember the Muhammad cartoonists!"

Read labels carefully on Lego products. They have been sourcing some of their parts from China more recently.

43 posted on 11/23/2007 6:45:27 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: Think free or die

Probably the small and complex parts. It seems anything small and complex and/or electronic must, as though by fiat, come from China. Makes one wonder...


44 posted on 11/23/2007 7:20:53 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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http://buyamerican.com/

Awesome site: http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/
This site is a voluntary effort by one woman to help shoppers find products made in USA.

http://www.madeinusa.com/

http://www.nbwebexpress.com/information/madeinusa.asp
New Balance shoes made in the USA

http://www.madeinusaforever.com/

http://www.madeinusa.org/
Much exploring can be done at this site.


45 posted on 11/23/2007 7:22:54 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Lexinom
Thanks for that link! I saved it for the future. In fact, I have a new folder in my "Favorites" for all this stuff.

Thanks for the motivation to finally search.

46 posted on 11/23/2007 7:26:51 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Lexinom

“Lastly, remember to pray for the Chinese people - many of whom are our Christian brothers and sisters - and yes, for their government. The nation is indeed a threat, both economically and militarily, but God is above all and holds the hearts of kings.”

Prayers for all!


47 posted on 11/23/2007 8:48:19 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All; Just A Nobody

Thanks for those links to help us buy American.


48 posted on 11/23/2007 8:51:01 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All

Here are Made in U.S.A. clothes for the ladies, very reasonably priced with free alterations, and free shipping for orders over $50 (last time I ordered):

http://pumpkincreekclothing.com/product.php?productID=12


49 posted on 11/23/2007 8:56:50 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom

Just purchased a big-wheel-type trike for nephew off a USA product website. Cost more, but it was made in the USA for the most part. We’ll see if it’s any better come Christmas.


50 posted on 11/23/2007 9:08:46 PM PST by madison10
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