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Environmentalism's Outer Limits
IBD ^ | November 23, 2007

Posted on 11/23/2007 5:12:11 PM PST by Kaslin

Man And Nature: Enviro-fanatics are sterilizing themselves to reduce their "carbon footprint." We dread where their nihilistic ideology — that mankind is an evil planetary force — will lead next.


The U.K.'s Daily Mail newspaper last week featured the beaming face of one Toni Vernelli, a British environmental activist who had sterilization surgery at the age of 27 because she considers children "a sinister threat to the future."

It was no Monty Pythonesque spoof. Two years earlier, despite being on birth-control pills, Vernelli got pregnant and had an abortion because "it would have been immoral to give birth to a child that I felt strongly would only be a burden to the world."

"Having children is selfish," the now-35-year-old says.

A vegetarian by age 15, Vernelli met her husband at an animal rights demo; on the morning of her sterilization, he gave her a "Congratulations" card.

Each new child, she says, "uses more food, more water, more land, more fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population."

What a depressing take on the value of human life. But it was echoed by another eco-crazed couple profiled by the Mail.

Sarah Irving, a 31-year-old green magazine editor, and Mark Hudson, a 37-year-old health care worker, reminisced about how, "after a year of dating, we started talking about sterilization."

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: birthrate; darwincandidate; envirowackos; extinctidiots; findesiecle; globalwarming; liberalism; lunatic
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1 posted on 11/23/2007 5:12:12 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
on the morning of her sterilization, he gave her a "Congratulations" card.

Was that card 100% recycled material?

2 posted on 11/23/2007 5:15:20 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Kaslin

Does this mean my grandkids will have fewer whacko’s to deal with?


3 posted on 11/23/2007 5:15:51 PM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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To: Kaslin
Darwin at work. Those with the bad genes aren’t reproducing...
4 posted on 11/23/2007 5:16:13 PM PST by tips up
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To: Kaslin

Thank You, Toni Vernelli, for removing yourself from the gene pool!


5 posted on 11/23/2007 5:18:14 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: umgud
Does this mean my grandkids will have fewer whacko’s to deal with?

Just make sure your (and everyone else's) kids & grandkids aren't being taught by these, and the answer is yes.

But I would still prefer they "turn from their wickedness and live" (to quote our Book of Common Prayer).

6 posted on 11/23/2007 5:18:35 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: tips up
Darwin at work. Those with the bad genes memes aren’t reproducing...
7 posted on 11/23/2007 5:20:02 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Kaslin
They will be the victims of their own success because eventually all like minded people will die off and only people who are against the global warming myth will remain. They could achieve their goal of reducing their perceived damage to the earth much quicker if they committed suicide.
8 posted on 11/23/2007 5:21:34 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: ricks_place
Thank You, Toni Vernelli, for removing yourself from the gene pool!

Yes, but just wait until the self-anointed start deciding who else needs to be removed from the gene pool.

It's not like we haven't seen this before.

Within living memory.

9 posted on 11/23/2007 5:22:23 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Kaslin
"There is nothing wrong with your carbon footprint. Do not attempt to adjust you reproductive cycle. We are now controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will take away your Viagra. We will control the horizontal mambo. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. You are about to participate in a great adventure, you dirt-worshiping zero. You are about to experience the psychosis and misery which reaches from the insane mind to... The Outer Limits."


10 posted on 11/23/2007 5:22:42 PM PST by Viking2002 (Waterboarding the Left every chance I get.)
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To: Kaslin

"There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are now controlling transmission. If We wish to make it louder, We will bring up the volume. If We wish to make it softer, We will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and We will control all that you see and hear. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits."

11 posted on 11/23/2007 5:22:43 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Viking2002

Missed it by THAT MUCH!
12 posted on 11/23/2007 5:24:20 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Kaslin
This isn't just confined to the British. We have our own home-grown "believers": http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?issue=09-25-07&storyID=28081
13 posted on 11/23/2007 5:24:39 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Kaslin

Humans are just as natural as trees and whales. And human action is just as legitimate as that of a beaver, or of a forest.


14 posted on 11/23/2007 5:25:52 PM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: Kaslin

More and more Tom Clancy comes true: Rainbow Six.


15 posted on 11/23/2007 5:26:05 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Kaslin
She's probably right.

The kid would have turned out to be just like her and the father.

16 posted on 11/23/2007 5:26:53 PM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Man50D
They could achieve their goal of reducing their perceived damage to the earth much quicker if they committed suicide.

Beat me to it! This was my first thought when reading about these nuts.

17 posted on 11/23/2007 5:29:06 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: umgud; tips up

“Does this mean my grandkids will have fewer whacko’s to deal with?”

There will undoubtedly be some benefits to the gene pool at large (see “Boobs not Bombs” at Zombietime.com) but it will not result in total extinction of the lefty plague. Unlike, say, rats or cockroaches, leftists do not reproduce primarily by any biological process but by stealing the offspring of others through their control of the social indoctrination apparatus, specifically the media-industrial complex and public education.

The real answer to this is new media, the blogs, talk radio, and other independent outlets. This is why lefties hate the new media so much. To them, it is a threat of sterilization and they react as normal people do when they are grabbed by the gonads.


18 posted on 11/23/2007 5:29:53 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: umgud
Yup. If the tendency to become a green fanatic is at all genetic, natural selection should eliminte it within a generation.
19 posted on 11/23/2007 5:31:47 PM PST by curiosity
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To: sionnsar; MHGinTN

Odd.

I didn’t think eco-extremists had any limits at all .... much less both outer limits and inner limits to their extremism.


20 posted on 11/23/2007 5:31:53 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Media-industrial complex !


21 posted on 11/23/2007 5:33:06 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Old Sarge
Like those dweebs that post early in a new geek thread and yell, "FIRST"!!!

Wait - I've done that. LMAO.


22 posted on 11/23/2007 5:33:31 PM PST by Viking2002 (Waterboarding the Left every chance I get.)
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To: sourcery
June to Ward Cleaver, "Don't you think you were a little hard on the beaver last night?"

Love those beavers.

23 posted on 11/23/2007 5:36:44 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Toni, I have seven kids! (insert evil laugh here)


24 posted on 11/23/2007 5:37:33 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Kaslin

This is...horrible. This woman is clearly deranged. Sure, the environMENTAL movement attracts the less intellectually equipped, but I suspects it was more chance than conviction that this woman choose to attach herself to this particular cause. If she hadn’t stumbled onto those vampires, it would have been something equally destructive. And shame on the man who obviously pushed her to do this to herself.


25 posted on 11/23/2007 5:41:09 PM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: Kaslin

Well at least they are self selecting themselves for discontinuing their particular line. There’s a silver lining in every cloud!


26 posted on 11/23/2007 5:42:09 PM PST by saganite
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To: socialismisinsidious

My neighbors have fourteen and another one on the way.


27 posted on 11/23/2007 5:44:15 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SwedishConservative
And shame on the man who obviously pushed her to do this to herself.

Question of the day: Has he irreversibly sterilized himself too? Or is he keeping his options open?

28 posted on 11/23/2007 5:44:46 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Kaslin
This is not really new, and in fact there is an organization called the The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

Unfortunately, Toni's child was not given a choice in this matter, but as long as it is voluntary, in general I have no problem with this movement, even if I disagree with its premise. Of course, the first thing they will compromise on eventually is the word "voluntary."

29 posted on 11/23/2007 5:45:13 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kaslin

30 posted on 11/23/2007 5:47:04 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: Vince Ferrer

This is what I posted on an earlier thread about her:

What?

You mean it was morally wrong to kill an innocent child she created through her recklessness because it would be a “burden” to the world?

That when she was faced with the choice of killing herself or someone else as to not be a burden on the world that she chose someone else to die?

And all along she says she’s not selfish?

This is where adolescent leftest thought gets you. Living a total contradiction, unable to see it and the results being dead people - all with the “best” intentions...


31 posted on 11/23/2007 5:52:09 PM PST by DB
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Of course, the first thing they will compromise on eventually is the word 'voluntary.'"

Absolutely. Eco-icon Paul Ehrlich (author of The Population Bomb(1968) and its assorted sequels) advocated the forcible sterilization of men in India and many other draconian measures, including genocide by neglect, to deal with what he saw as an approaching catastrophe.

He also predicted that pesticide use would reduce US life expectancy to 42 by 1980, there would be food-rationing here by the 90s, and we would be out of oil long before either of these.

32 posted on 11/23/2007 6:01:09 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: DB
This is where adolescent leftest thought gets you. Living a total contradiction, unable to see it and the results being dead people - all with the “best” intentions...

Indees. And we all know what the road to hell is paved with.

33 posted on 11/23/2007 6:01:30 PM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: Kaslin
The U.K.'s Daily Mail newspaper last week featured the beaming face of one Toni Vernelli, a British environmental activist who had sterilization surgery at the age of 27 because she considers children "a sinister threat to the future."

How can someone so stupid still manage to exist?

34 posted on 11/23/2007 6:03:02 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Kaslin

There goes the lefty whine that “it’s all for the children.”

That one was a little stale, so now “it’s all for the planet.”


35 posted on 11/23/2007 6:05:29 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: sionnsar
Was that card 100% recycled material?

And?......the card he purchased took how much fossil fuel to freight to his favorite enviro friendly card shop....no wait....I got it.....they were delivered by bicycles.....made of extruded aluminum and a composite fiber seat.

OK...maybe the seat was plastic...no that's not any good....

OK!!! I got it! It was made from a tanned animal hide....no that's not good.....it was.....

And so on, and so on.

Has anyone ever figured out how much natural resources we might save if the enviros would just shut the f@#&k up!!!

36 posted on 11/23/2007 6:05:34 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Doomage on you)
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To: umgud

I think this is wonderful. Those that don’t want kids don’t have them (and are usually liberal). Those that want kids have them (Usually conservative). The liberal/kid hating problem self corrects within two generations.


37 posted on 11/23/2007 6:09:30 PM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Has anyone ever figured out how much natural resources we might save if the enviros would just shut the f@#&k up!!

No, but it could be a lot just based on a certain hypocritical parking problem of theirs.

38 posted on 11/23/2007 6:18:47 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: AndrewB

39 posted on 11/23/2007 6:29:07 PM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: DB

The truly sincere and unselfish thing would have been for her to have the kid, give it to some real parents, then dispose of herself in some environmentally benign way.

I would suggest the middle of the ocean, where her bio-mass would be quickly and efficiently recycled for the benefit of more deserving organisms.


40 posted on 11/23/2007 6:29:48 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: Kaslin
I don't really mind if liberals opt for extinction.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

41 posted on 11/23/2007 6:55:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sionnsar
With biodegradable ink?
42 posted on 11/23/2007 6:55:59 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: atomic conspiracy
They may reproduce abnormally but I do not think they will be around to write about the future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

43 posted on 11/23/2007 6:58:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

Wait til she turns 50 and congratulating hubby runs off with thirtysomething to have a couple of kids. This pathetic old hag will be wearing a burka sipping a latte while surrounded by a neighbourhood of Jihad lovin Abdullahs. The law of unintended consequences.


44 posted on 11/23/2007 7:09:21 PM PST by bubman
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To: Kaslin

Well, at least they won’t be able to brainwash their own children.

On the other hand, however, I’d appreciate it if they took themselves off of Earth before the big, bad, capitalist, freedom-loving pigs do. Or the ocean.


45 posted on 11/23/2007 7:12:47 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Kaslin

“And God blessed them, and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.’”


46 posted on 11/23/2007 7:18:17 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Kaslin
Please, Toni....please, you and your husband....please, for the sake of the world, for Mother Earth, both you and your husband, please commit suicide.

I'll personally plant both of your remains in a nice, green forest where you can fertilize some pine trees and let the voles gnaw on your bones.

It's the least you can do to atone for violently murdering your unborn child by ripping him/her to shreds while he/she most certainly screamed in agony.

(idiot enviromorons)

47 posted on 11/23/2007 7:21:57 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Kaslin
Vernelli is a cowardly piker. If she were really serious, she'd join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.


48 posted on 11/23/2007 7:43:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™~~


49 posted on 11/24/2007 5:01:28 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: umgud

“Does this mean my grandkids will have fewer whacko’s to deal with?”

Only if our grandkids embrace the coran and sharia law...

ruefully


50 posted on 11/24/2007 6:53:33 AM PST by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
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