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Crude hits another record: $98.18
AP via Houston Chronicle ^ | Nov. 23, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/23/2007 5:35:44 PM PST by thackney

Oil futures resumed their march toward $100 a barrel today, rising to a new record close in light holiday trading on concerns about tight heating oil supplies while also drawing support from a buoyant stock market.

At the pump, meanwhile, gas prices retreated further from their most recent peak, falling 0.1 cent overnight to a national average of $3.086 a gallon, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. Prices rose sharply from mid-October until last week, but have fallen 2.6 cents since, countering predictions that gas prices were destined to add another 10 to 15 cents a gallon to catch up with skyrocketing crude prices.

Analysts now say gas prices are likely to hold steady or even slide a little unless oil rises beyond $100 a barrel.

Oil prices drew support from heating oil futures, which set new records on concerns about tight supplies heading into the winter heating season. Inventories of distillates, which include heating oil, fell sharply last week, the Energy Department reported on Wednesday.

Light, sweet crude for January delivery rose 89 cents to settle at $98.18 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, besting the previous settlement record by 15 cents, while December heating oil futures rose 1.68 cents to settle at $2.7042 a gallon after earlier setting a new trading record of $2.7181 a gallon.

Crude prices are within the range of inflation-adjusted highs set in early 1980. Depending on how the adjustment is calculated, $38 a barrel then would be worth $96 to $103 or more today.

Heating oil prices are rising due to falling supplies at home and overseas, analysts said.

"The heating oil market, it's more of a global story," said Andrew Lebow, senior vice president of MF Global Inc. in New York. "Because of refinery problems in Europe, (supplies) are kind of tight."

Energy futures also drew support from today's rise in the stock market. Energy investors often view stocks as a proxy for the economy's strength, betting that a stronger economy will use more oil and gasoline.

Oil traders shrugged off data suggesting OPEC is increasing production more quickly than expected. Oil Movements, an oil tanker tracking firm based in the UK, reported that Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries oil exports are likely to jump by an average of 720,000 barrels a day in the four weeks ended Dec. 8, more than the expected 500,000 barrels per day.

Oil prices rose 43 percent between August and early November on falling domestic inventories, concerns about supply disruptions overseas and, many analysts argue, speculative buying. But recent forecasts have suggested high prices are cutting demand. The inventory picture has become cloudy, too.

Two weeks ago, domestic oil inventories rose unexpectedly. Last week, supplies fell more than expected, but rose at the Nymex delivery point in Cushing, Okla. Falling supplies at the terminal are seen as a symptom of a tight market, but last week's gain in Cushing supplies eased those concerns.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; gasoline; oil

1 posted on 11/23/2007 5:35:45 PM PST by thackney
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2 posted on 11/23/2007 5:37:00 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Yipppppeee!!

Hey you phony blow hard libs....one word...

ANWAR!!!!!


3 posted on 11/23/2007 5:38:43 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: thackney
Hmmmm...seems to me that we are way above average in oil inventory...should lead to lower prices but not happening(speculation?)...
4 posted on 11/23/2007 5:39:06 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
not happening(speculation?)...

That's about right. If we resumed our own domestic crude production, I think speculators would go away.

5 posted on 11/23/2007 5:41:54 PM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Make our politicians pay for their own gas and their families gas and you may see them drilling our own oil. Make them pay for their own health insurance and start paying into Social Security and you will see changes there also. Right now they have no insentive to do anything....they are on a free ride. How many of you can work on a job for four years and get full retirement? And.....vote yourself a raise whenever you want it?


6 posted on 11/23/2007 5:43:12 PM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

they are all disgusting..Term Limits and then they get to run again!


7 posted on 11/23/2007 5:45:15 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: thackney

It may have closed a new record, but it did not hit a new record. I know that it hit over 99$ the other day.


8 posted on 11/23/2007 5:45:47 PM PST by Revel
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To: 2banana

Speculation pretty much sums it up.


9 posted on 11/23/2007 5:46:06 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: thackney
This is a time for thinking caps to be donned....


10 posted on 11/23/2007 5:48:47 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: oyez
If we resumed our own domestic crude production, I think speculators would go away

Crude supplies are artificially constructed numbers.

I am in agreement with you if building more refineries is what you intended as more production.

11 posted on 11/23/2007 5:51:27 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Doomage on you)
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To: 2banana
seems to me that we are way above average in oil inventory...

Stocks should be compared to consumption. We are have less supply on hand than we used to keep.

U.S. Crude Oil excluding SPR Days of Supply (Number of Days)
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/w_epc0_vsd_nus_daysw.htm

12 posted on 11/23/2007 5:53:59 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

We have a far greater shortfall of domestic crude oil production than we do of refinery operations.


13 posted on 11/23/2007 5:55:27 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 2banana
"Hmmmm...seems to me that we are way above average in oil inventory...should lead to lower prices but not happening(speculation?)..."

What I believe you are seeing is the collapse of the value of the dollar. High cost are not merely a result of supply but the weakness of the dollar is creating a demand for more of them in payment. Value exists as a perception; the dollar's gig may be about up. It is backed by nothing but buying power and it is printed at will arbitrarily. This worked for a while as long as there was trust, but greedy powers have relied on bad credit to the point the dollar appears to be doomed as the global currency.

Do we have gold or tangible assets to back the dollar? Do we have enough manufacturing and industry to back it up? What is behind the dollar? What if other nations start quietly shifting to other currencies for trade, like they are? Russia and China are hip to this and have used us to build their economies but when they feel the have the upper hand they will work with Venezuela, Iran and others to collapse our economy without destroying theirs by shifting to the euro and other foreign currencies. We will by far be more affected than they will and they don't care that much about their people who don't have all that much anyway.

They will suck all they can out of the power of the dollar until it is so weak that they they see more gain by sinking us. Then they will dump us and the dollar and seek to establish themselves as the global powers that be.

We have been sold out by both parties and mega-beast-corporations.

14 posted on 11/23/2007 6:18:26 PM PST by inpajamas (Modern liberalism is merely fascism without balls - http://skarbutts.wordpress.com/)
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To: thackney
We have a far greater shortfall of domestic crude oil production than we do of refinery operations

I agree with the first half of your comment....however.....it's been many years since a new refinery has been approved and/or built on the East coast.

FYI...I could be wrong....but I'm tired from Black Friday...(retail store owner...who opened at a respectable 11:00 AM tho on the go from 5 AM) And need to catch a few hours sleep before the weekend.

If anyone has numbers of new refineries I would like to take a look at them.

15 posted on 11/23/2007 6:21:13 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Doomage on you)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

No, in this country because of NIMBY’s and environmentalists, it very difficult to build a new refinery. Instead the industry has been upgrading and expanding existing refineries such that the growth of gasoline production is close to the growth of gasoline consumption.

U.S. Weekly Finished Motor Gasoline Production
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/wgfrpus24.htm

U.S. Weekly Finished Motor Gasoline Product Supplied
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/wgfupus24.htm


16 posted on 11/23/2007 6:29:29 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

OK. I’ll trust you on this. Bookmarked this post for a later read. Thanks.


17 posted on 11/23/2007 6:34:55 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Doomage on you)
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To: RC2

technically congress must vote against annual pay raises as they are automatic. They voted that in quite a while back. A few will vote against it but only for show most likely.


18 posted on 11/23/2007 6:35:14 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Naw, don’t trust anyone making claims on the internet, but do read the links when you have time and judge for yourself.
19 posted on 11/23/2007 6:36:28 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Good! Too many anti-American piggies of every political clique are saying things like, "Iran is a sovereign nation. Why shouldn't Iran have nukes?" And too many of our importers want to avoid Iran, because they don't want oil to go higher today (as they only live for today--like hippies).

If the price of oil goes high enough quickly enough, our leadership will stop helping the Arabs push the Jews into the sea (Annapolis) and take care of the mullahs and their military forces.

It's for your own good. If Iran isn't dealt with soon enough, she'll have nuclear weapons. Iran will then prepare to launch on London and the Vatican (duh...Israel? Who's fooling themselves?), and oil will go much higher for much longer.

The higher oil goes today, the less we'll be sucking up to the enemy.
20 posted on 11/23/2007 6:41:38 PM PST by familyop (Roma est perdita.)
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To: thackney
"No, in this country because of NIMBY’s and environmentalists, it very difficult to build a new refinery."

...that, too. Today's squishy moguls need to let their environmentalist nieces retire to their kitchens. Fire the Dept. of Education, while they're at it.
21 posted on 11/23/2007 6:43:58 PM PST by familyop (Roma est perdita.)
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To: familyop

NYMEX crude oil index 108.07

I hope this news is not instantly out of date like most of these oil threads.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 2:01:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
"NYMEX crude oil index 108.07

I hope this news is not instantly out of date like most of these oil threads.
"

Thanks! If we don't see a post about that today, I'll post one.

...108.13 at the time of this reply.
23 posted on 03/10/2008 2:46:58 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

Maybe the business news media is burned out about new oil price records. Ran out of alarming words to use.


24 posted on 03/10/2008 2:53:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

Agreed. They’ve probably also discovered that tomorrow could bring a supply problem. Asian markets are inflating and backing down a little but not decreasing demand for oil.

And the Arabs are afraid of poking more holes in their fields and sucking it out too fast (according to the Arabs). ;-)


25 posted on 03/10/2008 3:05:50 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

I wouldn’t even try to guess what the oil Arabs might do, nor listen to them. Tomorrow everything could be different. Iran is more dependable and they mean what they say.


26 posted on 03/10/2008 3:11:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

LOL! That’s true.


27 posted on 03/10/2008 3:14:46 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: RightWhale
Alright, here's the new post.

Crude rises above $108 per barrel in New York
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983481/posts

[familyop runs around screaming, "Run for your lives! Aaaaaaaaaaaa!"]

;-)
28 posted on 03/10/2008 3:21:35 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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