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The Stab That Failed
The Weekly Standard ^ | 12/03/2007 | Noemie Emery

Posted on 11/24/2007 9:43:27 PM PST by krogers58

Eagerly anticipating the defeat in Iraq to which they are so much attached, some on the left have also been preparing for another contingency: the assault that they think they see coming, a drive to pin the whole wretched failure on them. Apparently, this will be "stab in the back" redux, a new iteration of the theme deployed so successfully in interwar Germany by a resourceful, ambitious Austrian corporal, who managed to propel his rise to power with the claim that World War I would have been won by his country, if not for sinister forces at home. Then, it was subversion by Jews and other disloyal elements. This time, in the left's imagining, the blame will fall on the press and the Democrats who, by pulling the plug at just the wrong moment, caused the loss of Iraq. "Nobody I know in a rational condition believes that the United States is going to have any kind of a military victory," Mark Shields said in August. "So the idea is going to be, 'We were on the cusp of victory and the rug was pulled out from under us by these willy-nilly, weak-kneed, nervous Nellies back home.' "

The problem with this is (1) that we may really win, and have no failure to blame upon anyone, and (2) that the nervous Nellies really did try to keep us from winning, indeed fought fang and claw to derail our best efforts. If they had had their way, Iraq would still be the quagmire they are so fond of invoking, and the United States--or George W. Bush, which may be the more relevant factor--would have incurred a definitive and, at least in his case, legacy-blasting defeat. It is unfair of course to call this a stab in the back, as the Democrats have been engagingly open about their intentions. In the course of the past year, they have gone from attacking a plan that had not been effective to attacking one that hadn't been tried yet, to attacking one that exceeded all expectations, while in the process ignoring reality, slandering a commanding general, and denying American forces in battle due credit for what they had done. If not backstabbing as such (see above), it is diverting enough a spectacle to merit a replay. Let us look back at this last year of battle and see how the story played out.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; cutandrun; iraq; pelosi; rats; rattimeline; reid; timeline
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This is one of the best summaries of the treasonous actions of the Democrats, I have ever seen. Clearly a great read.
1 posted on 11/24/2007 9:43:28 PM PST by krogers58
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To: krogers58

More of the article can be found here:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/405lrbpc.asp


2 posted on 11/24/2007 9:44:32 PM PST by krogers58
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To: krogers58

The Republicans need to make the rampant disloyalty of the Democrats the centerpiece of next year’s elections.


3 posted on 11/24/2007 10:08:43 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: krogers58

I think we should start by pointing out the Democrat efforts to destablize our relations with Turkey through that stupid Armenian resolution. The result? Triggering the rise in oil and gasoline prices.


4 posted on 11/24/2007 10:11:27 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: krogers58
The whole article is the best summary with the timeline of the treasonous acts against America by the majority of democrats/liberals/socialist/communists in power.  America wake up!  This is not about hating Bush anymore from their part; a more sinister agenda is witnessable here. 

 

5 posted on 11/24/2007 10:35:17 PM PST by OneHun
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To: krogers58

The democrat leadership and their activist base are traitors pure and simple.


6 posted on 11/24/2007 10:39:35 PM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: OneHun

I agree.... their intent is to bring down the USA.


7 posted on 11/24/2007 10:47:54 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: krogers58

The Democrats have been unafraid to stab the Republicans in the front. It’s the American People they have been stabbing in the back.


8 posted on 11/24/2007 11:18:41 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
I printed off the article and read it. WOW!

DemocRATs’ march to defeat is just beginning. By September of next year, Iraq could very well be on the way to a striving democracy with security and commerce returning to Baghdad as well as the rest of the Country. I bet if you were to compare the accomplishments of the Iraqi Parliament with that of the American congress, Iraq is probably more productive. What does that tell you about this congress?

We need to return to a smaller government where the Federal government is meant to protect us and protect our freedoms according to the Constitution. Return all the rest to the States. Moral decay was the downfall of the Roman Empire and it will be America’s downfall if Conservatives do not stand up and bring this Country back to our roots.

Conservatism has never failed, only those politicians who claim to be conservative have failed.

VOTE OUT ALL THE RINOS.

9 posted on 11/24/2007 11:27:43 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: krogers58
it is a strange form of patriotic dissent that attacks a plan as having failed before it has started, anoints a commander, attacks him, and then tries to sandbag his efforts; calls a plan a failure in April when it has been explained many times that it will be June before it can be implemented, and then, when qualified observers see some signs of progress, either collapses in an attack of the vapors or erupts in howls of unrelieved rage

The dems are idiotic buffoons, and, worse, they think we are, too.

10 posted on 11/25/2007 12:01:28 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

The stab that failed ping.


11 posted on 11/25/2007 12:01:50 AM PST by elhombrelibre (It's not easy being a Run Paul defeatist on Iraq, but a few annoying freepers work at it.)
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To: krogers58

The Democrat backstab hasn’t failed, not yet. It’s too early to tell, but, as Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo “Dirty” Sanchez, recently stated in the Democratic weekly radio address, Iraqi leaders had failed to make “hard choices necessary to bring peace to their country.” Until those bickering tribals over there do make some political progress, the jury’s still out.

All we’ve shown so far is that we can force ‘em to occasionally behave in a slightly more civilized manner if we lean on ‘em hard enough. Old Paul Harvey has said something about the Middle Eastern Muslims being unready for, and incapable of, understanding and maintaining fair elections and representative government. I agree with Paul.


12 posted on 11/25/2007 1:56:06 AM PST by flowerplough (America, "the most benign hegemon in history." Mark Steyn)
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To: krogers58

It is truly a paradox when the Dems say that want peace in the world and say they want to see one world, one government. YET, they are isolationist when it comes to defending the homelands of the countries that would be friendly to the USA. That message resonates loud and clear to many countries and makes us a weak and wavering partner in their eyes.

The Reps give a more consistent message: be friends with the USA and we will help you when adversity strikes, whether war or natural calamity..The Rep message to friendly countries is that we are strong and steady partners, fully armed to defend you, and resourceful enough to lift you up again when disaster strikes.

The Dems are stumbling along, unable to formulate a program for success in the world, and 2008 will not be the year they wake up- because nothing will ever satisfy their vast left wing base. They are victims of their past success in getting US out of Vietnam and are locked into their isolationism because of it. But Iraq is not Vietnam and they just don’t get it, same as they don’t fully comprehend the worldwide fight against terror and they miss the main point that the Muslims want to wipe out every ‘infidel’ and impose their laws by force on every country..

The Dems don’t have a clue and won’t have a clue in ‘08 because their internal forces are tearing them apart....For that reason they will be defeated in 2008. The Reps will win the Presidency and will win back Congress, especially if they can give Americans another Contract with America. That worked brillintly before- all 10 points were passed. It can work again.


13 posted on 11/25/2007 2:26:00 AM PST by billmor (We're not the vast right wing conspiracy. Just average Americans seeking answers)
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To: krogers58
When there's no penalty for treason, then treason become the standard MOO of the DNC and it's legions...
14 posted on 11/25/2007 2:31:36 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: krogers58; elhombrelibre

I wonder how much the Democrats are paying the people who have been mortaring the Green Zone lately?


15 posted on 11/25/2007 3:57:20 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra

Beyond moral support? I don’t know. But they’re cheering for them.


16 posted on 11/25/2007 4:02:10 AM PST by elhombrelibre (It's not easy being a Run Paul defeatist on Iraq, but a few annoying freepers work at it.)
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To: kaehurowing
"The Republicans need to make the rampant disloyalty of the Democrats the centerpiece of next year’s elections."

You are right. Unfortunately, I see not a single Republican that has the courage and focus to capitalize on that target rich environment. Nationally, its almost a no brainer. In my State, Michigan, we have a vile piece of trash senator named Karl Lenin that no one will take on.

17 posted on 11/25/2007 4:08:03 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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To: flowerplough

I used to respect Paul until he pi$$ed and moaned on and on about the three wars America has lost-Vietnam, Iraq, and I’m not sure what other one he bleats about. Time for him to retire. Good job for Fred Thompson when he bows out of the race.


18 posted on 11/25/2007 4:11:07 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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To: kaehurowing
The Republicans need to make the rampant disloyalty of the Democrats the centerpiece of next year’s elections.

Never happen ... if the situation were reversed the 'Rats would use it a heartbeat and it would be considered fair dialog by their cohorts in the liberal MSM. Republicans try it and it will be portrayed as reprehensible, below the belt, dirty politics ... after all with a two party system differences of opinion are encouraged and welcome not meant to be used to bludgeon your opponent in the next election cycle. Especially so if a 'Rat happens to be in jeopardy on the receiving end.

19 posted on 11/25/2007 4:23:13 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: kaehurowing
The Republicans need to make the rampant disloyalty of the Democrats the centerpiece of next year’s elections.

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately, balls don't grow on trees.

20 posted on 11/25/2007 4:33:18 AM PST by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: BluH2o

But it will be all over talk radio.


21 posted on 11/25/2007 4:40:00 AM PST by maxter
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To: kaehurowing
The Republicans need to make the rampant disloyalty of the Democrats the centerpiece of next year’s elections.

Save it for the upcoming Presidential Election where it will expose the left's candidate.

22 posted on 11/25/2007 4:43:08 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: krogers58
Backstabb, spit in the troopers face, consort, support and aid the enemy in time of war. Yeah, thats the Democrats I know.
23 posted on 11/25/2007 5:18:56 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Balls? They don’t even have sacks.


24 posted on 11/25/2007 5:19:42 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: krogers58
Republicans can legitimately question the judgement of these Democrats throughout the election cycle: "Why was my opponent calling for us to give up when we were on the brink of victory? How could anyone trust his/her judgement again?
25 posted on 11/25/2007 7:40:04 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: Dilbert56

“Stabbed in the back” is effective rhetoric. It should be repeated endlessly during the debate on war funding.

It could be broadened as well. Afterall, Dems stabbed the Black Hawk Down boys the back during the 90s, Nicaraguan Contras in the 80s, South Vietnamese in the 70s, Cuban Freedom fighters in the 60s, and the nationalist Chinese in the 50s.

Iraqis will be their latest victims.


26 posted on 11/25/2007 9:49:09 AM PST by y6162
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To: y6162
You could go back further to the Copperheads of the 1860s--if the Democrats had won the 1864 election, the Civil War would probably have ended with a peace treaty between the U.S. and the Confederate States of America.

The Democrats' tactics in 2007 have been less like the mythical "stab in the back" of 1918 and more like the 23 stabs in the front, back, and sides Julius Caesar experienced on the Ides of March.

27 posted on 11/25/2007 12:45:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: krogers58
I have said for a long time that historians will regard President Bush as one of the four or five greatest military strategists in history, on a par with Alexander, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte. People have actually laughed at me for saying that.

Well, he who laughs last, laughs best!

28 posted on 11/25/2007 12:49:10 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: krogers58

bump.


29 posted on 11/25/2007 1:22:28 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: elhombrelibre
One can become weary over a period of time listening to these knuckle heads discuss things beyond their level of understanding. The military victory was achieved in 2003. Saddam was ousted from power. The Security and Stabilization Operations (SASO) have reached a point where Iraq is now on the mend. From day one this administration made it clear military intervention was only the first step in a long process to create a new Iraq along the lines of a democracy.
Unless my head has been buried deep in the sand it appears for the most part all the things set forth for this venture have beared fruit in a positive way.
We continue to see a increasing willingness among the citizens of Iraq to move forward under a new form of government and in increasing numbers indicate their willingness to put nationalism above sectarian and tribal law.
As for as Mark Shields goes. Why bother expending ergs of power on what a real buffoon he is.
30 posted on 11/25/2007 1:44:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: tear gas
I have said for a long time that historians will regard President Bush as one of the four or five greatest military strategists in history, on a par with Alexander, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte. People have actually laughed at me for saying that.

I think you are absolutely right. And generations will study how this man from Texas withstood the plethora of talking heads and media darlings, elite professors, famous actors and brilliant writers and laid the groundwork for all future administrations to defeat Islamofascism by having a powerful ally in the middle east.

He may not be able to pronounce nuclear but he can command the armed forces without sticking a wet finger in the air to guess whether the polls are with him.

31 posted on 11/25/2007 1:56:32 PM PST by groanup (Lawyers never create anything, especially wealth, but they sure steal a lot of it.)
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To: groanup

You and me make a majority!!


32 posted on 11/25/2007 2:02:03 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: elhombrelibre

Sorry for coming late, I was out all day today. The traitors bet on America’s defeat in Iraq and they lost very badly, they are going to pay a very heavy political price for their treason for the next 30 years.


33 posted on 11/25/2007 6:53:29 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: groanup

‘History will get it right, and we’ll both be dead’.


34 posted on 11/30/2007 9:56:52 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: M. Thatcher

ping


35 posted on 11/30/2007 10:12:38 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Just A Nobody; Dog; jeffers

ping


36 posted on 11/30/2007 5:14:16 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake; smoothsailing; jazusamo; RedRover; freema
Thank you for the ping.
This is an excellent article systematically detailing the demonrats treason this past year.

Afraid of moving directly to defund the armed forces, Democrats decided on a series of steps that would have the same effect without saying so, i.e., putting so many restrictions and regulations on troop deployments that the number available would in effect be greatly reduced.

These would be sponsored by veterans (James Webb and John Murtha), and the stated goal would be to help the armed forces.
The real goal, however, was to strangle the surge in its crib.

I LOATHE these traitorous scumbags.

37 posted on 11/30/2007 5:43:23 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
Thanks for the ping, Justa. This is an outstanding article and I would have missed it completely but for you, I noticed it was posted a week ago.

Seldom before in the annals of governance have so many politicians fought so long and so hard to completely screw up a winning strategy being waged on their country's behalf.

She sure nailed it by saying the above and the traitorous Dems are still misrepresenting lying about what is taking place in Iraq.

38 posted on 11/30/2007 6:48:53 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jazusamo; txflake
You are welcome. I would have missed it if not for txflake. So...what goes around and all that. ;*)

The section you chose to highlight was the next one I was going to do...before my 'puter decided to shut down. I do not like Vista!

39 posted on 11/30/2007 6:52:45 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody; astounded; SandRat; jazusamo

Astounded turned me onto it, I turned Rush onto it, Sandrat will turn EVERYBODY onto it.


40 posted on 11/30/2007 7:11:22 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: vietvet67; KC Burke; LRS; beethovenfan; SF Republican; Allegra; ClearCase_guy; NonValueAdded; ...

important article ping


41 posted on 11/30/2007 9:19:07 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Maynerd

“The democrat leadership and their activist base are traitors pure and simple.”

Yes... and we need to try thousands for treason and sedition and build many, many gallows to carry out their sentences!

LLS


42 posted on 12/01/2007 2:08:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: flowerplough

There is plenty of political healing going on over there... but like our vast MILITARY VICTORIES... the msm lies and refuses to report the truth about it. This too will become impossible for them to do... IRAQ is WON!

LLS


43 posted on 12/01/2007 2:14:12 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: tear gas

They laughed at Jesus too.

LLS


44 posted on 12/01/2007 2:19:29 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: jveritas

Amen brother!!!

LLS


45 posted on 12/01/2007 2:20:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: krogers58

Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 12/01/2007 5:19:51 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: txflake

Oops. Thanks should have been to you. Merci beaucoup!


47 posted on 12/01/2007 5:21:43 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Just A Nobody; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; ...

Thanks for the ping-

I am getting so tired of words : (
I want action : )


48 posted on 12/01/2007 8:25:04 AM PST by freema
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To: freema
I am getting so tired of words : (
I want action : )

YW and mega dittos to these comments. Waaaaaaay past time.

49 posted on 12/01/2007 8:54:49 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: txflake

Thanks for the ping.


50 posted on 12/01/2007 11:59:10 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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