Posted on 11/25/2007 8:17:37 AM PST by Zakeet
Just because we have no information about the missing years is not a reason to make up a fantasy out of whole cloth.
Someone could just as easily say that he was abducted by space aliens and and was programed to be the Messiah on another planet.
Producing a quasi historical film in this manner is moving Christ ever closer to becoming a myth, a tall tale, a cartoon character, a comic book hero, a fantasy.
Luke tells us the linage of Christ came not only from Judah the King line but also of Levi priest after the order of Melchizedek (King and Priest of Salem). Joseph was father only through adoption and Joseph had nothing to do with the conception of Mary. Not sure what you are talking about Joseph being from an accursed line.
Mary is claimed to have gone to Glastonbury, along with Joseph of Aramathea (and others), but IMO, she wound up wit the Apostle John in Antioch. Tis would follow closely with the Biblical account (John being given charge of Mary at the Cross), and their graves are known and evident in Antioch (and curiously absent in Mary's case in considering Glastonbury).
Joseph of Aramathea' was a very wealth man and had tin mines in what is now considered British Isles. I believe that is where Mary was taken and where she died and was buried.
They will have to meet Him, like it or not. We all will.
A weak attempt at self-deprecation concerning my inability to spell reveals lack of tolerance?
Man, I shoulda stayed in school!
This is opinion, or more precisely legend, not fact.
If is very likely that many of the Joseph of Aramethea legends originated in England during the Middle Ages to increase the importance of England in the Christian story.
As far as I know, there is no contemporary documented evidence whatsoever that Jesus or any of his disciples had any direct connectoin to England.
Filmed on location at Tom Hanks Malibu mansion with special appearance by great-great-great-great-great-great-great granddaughter Maggie & arch-villain Lucifer played by George Bush.
Of course it is not a foundation for the basis of faith but the Glastonbury legend has more circumstantial evidence than any fashionable theory.
It’s been done already.
But you won’t see that happen...
You won’t see that happen because hollywood is full of gutless, limp wristed, egotistical little weasels who only think about themselves and the money they can make. They value their lives and would never do a movie about Mohammad. But, stupid as they are, they will have to answer to a God who will treat them more harshly for their blasphemy than Alla or Mohammad ever could. Hollywood enjoy yourselves on God’s behalf now because you WILL reap much sadness on the other side.
When did “tolerance” suddenly become the greatest virtue of all time? There are lot of things people will NOT tolerate and intolerance is a good thing in many instances.
I will not tolerate pedophila.
I will not tolerate bestiality.
I will not tolerate infidelity.
I will not tolerate anyone taking God’s name in vain in my home.
The list could be much longer.
Ooh, I’m soooo evil.
Not really. From what I can see they were just the medieval equivalent, with the difference that they weren't trying to tear down the Christ story, just hitch a ride on it.
The Glastonbury legends are older. That doesn't inherently make them more accurate.
"Likewise fabulous is the legend that Joseph of Arimathea was the uncle of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and a merchant involved in the tin trade with Britain who took Jesus there at some time in his life. After the Crucifixion, around the year AD 63, he was said to have returned to Britain as one of the first Christian missionaries to visit the country. He carried the Holy Grail with him, concealing it somewhere in the vicinity of Glastonbury Tor for safekeeping when he established the first church in the British Isles, which developed into Glastonbury Abbey. When Joseph set his walking staff on the ground to sleep, it miraculously took root, leafed out, and blossomed as the "Glastonbury thorn". There is little historical substance for any of this legend, but its retelling did encourage the pilgrimage trade at Glastonbury until the Abbey was dissolved in 1539, at the English Reformation."
I have no idea what the movie will be like but I have always been curious about the missing years. That really is a big gap.
Do thy diligence to come before winter. Eubulus greeteth thee, and Pudens, and Linus, and Claudia, and all the brethren.
Joseph, husband of Mary was reckoned Jesus' father in the legal sense, Jesus was not adopted by him.
Joseph, son of Heli (Joseph of Aramathea) did adopt Jesus into his house, and thereby into the inheritance of Heli (Lk 3:23). It is by Heli that his blood right ascends to the throne of David.
Not sure what you are talking about Joseph being from an accursed line.
It is Jeconiah (Coniah, Jechoniah) King of Judah who was cursed by Jehovah, that he and his seed would never again gain the throne. Jeconiah was to be considered "childless", which means all of his seed were to be without inheritance.
Jeremiah 22: 24-30(KJV)
24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;
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29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.
30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.
Jeconiah figures into Joseph's (husband of Mary) ancestry, so Jesus, by his "natural" father could not inherit the throne of David, though Joseph was technically "of" the line of David by way of Jeconiah.
Matthew 1:12(KJV)
And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechoniah begat Shealtiel; and Shealtiel begat Zorobabel;
**NOTE* I do not offer this information to deny Christ's lineage. The bloodline of Joseph (Mary's husband) is of little consequence to a Christian, as Christians do not believe Joseph to be the blood father of Jesus, who's blood sire is Jehovah, Almighty God. Jesus' mortal blood must therefore gain it's inheritance by way of His mother, Mary, and it is of great importance that He was adopted into Heli by Joseph of Aramathea.
This act gave him his right to the legal inheritance of Heli, that being the High House of Judah, and the Throne of David.
"Respecting" now means acceptance?
Admittedly, in modern "newspeak", words can mean anything activists decide, even the opposite of their traditional meanings, but it's quite clear to me that "respecting" in this context can be as simple as allowing to exist unmolested".
Threatening to kill other people for their different belief definitely does not qualify.
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