Posted on 11/26/2007 8:41:20 AM PST by goldstategop
An American Secretary of State should be in Baghdad brokering a reconciliation between Iraqi factions and locking down a victory for which nearly 4,000 Americans gave their lives. Iraq is the central front in the holy war against the West being waged by al-Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran, and an American defeat in Iraq would lead to an escalation of that war to proportions that would make the current conflict in Iraq seem tame by comparison.
Instead, Condoleeza Rice has been shuttling between capitals in the Middle East in an attempt to feed a piece of Jewish meat to the jackals in the West Bank in the hopes that bribery and concessions will turn them into doves and they will agree to live side by side with a non-Islamic state -- a state run by pigs and monkeys, whom their prophet has cursed.
This will not happen. The Palestinians do not want to live alongside a Jewish state in the Muslim Middle East, they want to destroy it. The majority of Palestinians have voted for a party, Hamas, which is dedicated to the "obliteration" of the Jewish state, as it decleares in its charter. Eighty years ago the Arabs of Palestine were given a state in Jordan, carved out of the Turkish empire. Fifty years ago they were given another state on the West Bank and in Gaza. They rejected the second state because the plan that created it from the land once owned by the Turks also created a Jewish state, half of which was arid desert. This inspired a sixty-year war against the Jews -- men, women and children -- which concessions like the ones Bush and Rice are pressuring Israel to increase only led to further slaughter and new demands.
The Munich Bush and Rice have prepared for Israel in Annapolis will fail ultimately because the Palestinians are terrorists whose only path is violence and whose unwavering goal is genocide -- the destruction of the Jewish state. Seventy percent of Palestinians support suicide bombing and seventy percent support Hamas. The other thirty support the Islamo-fascists of Fatah and their terrorist armies: the al Aqsa Martyrs Bridge, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Palestine Islamic Jihad.
It's indicative of the bad faith of the Annapolis architects that they have persuaded Syria, the unindicted co-conspirator of the Axis of Evil, the destroyer of Christian and democratic Lebanon, the refuge for Saddam's bloodthirsty lieutenants, to come to the table and parley for a return of the Golan Heights so that they can begin shelling Israeli farmers again.
The Annapolis Munich is a betrayal of Israel, but it is a betrayal of America and its soldiers as well. The armorer of the terrorists in Iraq is Iran; the force behind Hezbollah and Hamas in the Middle East is Iran. The Palestinians are not the cause of the Islamic crusade against the West; they are an integral part of it. Giving them a piece of Israel in East Jerusalem will not satisfy their hunger for conquest. It will only whet their appetite for more.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
The realpolitk fate of Israel probably helped wake up Horowitz from his doped up radical daze over the years
Spot on article...but who’s listening.
Rare is a POTUS these days who doesn’t want to build a legacy off Israeli concessions to savages.
Are we defeated in this war and just don’t know it yet?
Sure sign that Jorge and his pals have gone off the deep end.
Horowitz is right, but I doubt Condoleeza Rice expects great results from this. It is a cynical game. They go through the dance and things stay pretty much the same and they all know it works that way.
Checkoslovkia was not at Munich. Israel will have to be a signatory at Annapolis. Are you arguing the Govt of Israel is incompete to protect their own intrests?
The screamers also seem to over look this statement from Israel.
Israel saw Syria's announcement as a positive development.
"The meetings are clearly about the Israeli-Palestinian process, but could be the beginning of new avenues to peace in the Middle East," said Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's spokeswoman, Miri Eisin. The Annapolis meeting is one of the quid pro quo we have to pay for European cooperation on Iran. So we will have a ME Conference and NOTHING will be achieved yet again. And the Europeans will tell their Leftist trash "see we had a conference and talked about the Peace Processs, we are trying" and thus taking a PR attack line away from the European Leftist press.
No, the Right just has too many ignorant hysteric screamers who continually rant and rave on topics they know little to nothing about. Unfortunately the average Conservative apperently has been dumbed down to the point where the stupidity , as long as it is screamed loudly, is now mistaken for reason. Seriously trying to compare Annapolis to Munich is about as wholly ignorant, both from a historic, and a political, prespective as it is possible for a rational being to get
Wholly ignorant article both from a historic prospective on Munich and from a current events prospective on Annapolis.
Actually it is a sure sign the Freeper Know Nothings really are as ignorant of both historic, and current, factual reality as their postings indicates.
I am willing to listen. Can you explain further?
The test of this country greatness is its willingness to support Israel in the face of nearly universal demands for concessions that would be the undoing of the Jewish state.
Not really. I was just wondering what you thought about this Annopolis summit, and why you seem distraught over the comments of a few posters. I haven’t really been paying attention to this issue and thought that you might provide some insight. That’s all.
When I read polls about discontent with the Iraq War, I wonder how much of that is due to feeling we aren’t pushing hard enough?
Why don’t you crawl back to wideawakes with the rest of your Harpie pals sport?
oh...I forgot....you chumps couldn’t keep it togather coulda ya?
Imploded like a bunch of tinpot Robespierres.
Sanctimonious psedo conservative pretenders in ego overload.
and you have the gall to slink back with your forked tail tween your haunches..
You guys are not going to come back here again and run herd...lots of folks remember you quite well and old timers like me will make sure newbies get up to speed
We will be defeated if we continue to fight on our terms and die on theirs.
There are a few real first class morons on this forum, but you are the pinnacle, the apex, the zenith of morondom.
As usual, David Horowitz gets it, speaks it, and nails it!
So, can you explain your reading of the situation, other than Bush is always right?
Do you think the Arabs will agree to a genuine peace treaty, and keep it?
Or do you think this is just a meaningless diplomatic gesture, intended to placate the usual suspects?
Or do you think they intend to hand over more territory, with nothing gained for it, which has been a frequent pattern in the past?
Annapolis will fail ultimately because the Palestinians are terrorists whose only path is violence and whose unwavering goal is genocide -- the destruction of the Jewish state. Seventy percent of Palestinians support suicide bombing and seventy percent support Hamas. The other thirty support the Islamo-fascists of Fatah and their terrorist armies: the al Aqsa Martyrs Bridge, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Palestine Islamic Jihad. It's indicative of the bad faith of the Annapolis architects that they have persuaded Syria, the unindicted co-conspirator of the Axis of Evil, the destroyer of Christian and democratic Lebanon, the refuge for Saddam's bloodthirsty lieutenants, to come to the table and parley for a return of the Golan Heights so that they can begin shelling Israeli farmers again.Thanks C from E.
Making friends and influencing people again today?
If you’d unfasten your lips from GW Bush’s backside for five minutes, maybe you could persuade more folks of the rightness of your position, or, God forfend, perhaps even learn something.
Under Ohmert; yes.
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Hamas, the Hizzies, and Iran are getting marginalized.
So, for that matter, is Jimmy Carter and the Klintoons. This conference will actually help Obama in the primaries, and help beat the Dhimmicrats next fall.
Palestinian militants fire rocket into Israel
www.chinaview.cn 2007-11-24 16:53:42
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/24/content_7138206.htm
[snip] A home-made rocket was fired at southern Israeli city of Sderot Saturday morning from Gaza Strip and the military wing of President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah movement claimed responsibility for it... Meanwhile, the armed wing of Islamic Hamas movement said it had targeted an Israeli undercover force unit with three bombs in southeastern Gaza Strip. [end]
ANALYSIS-Hamas, from sidelines, speaks in different voices
Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:19am EST
By Nidal al-Mughrabi
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSL25216952
[snip] Though excluded from the talks, the Islamists remain key to any progress, and policymakers are poring over nuances in — and possible internal divisions over — Hamas’s stance on Israel, the West and President Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah faction... There are some signs that Hamas’s isolation may be sparking internal debate, even if many analysts believe the voices of moderation are a minority compared to hardliners on both Hamas’s fronts of conflict... Ahmed Youssef, long-time adviser to Ismail Haniyeh, who was dismissed as Palestinian prime minister in June, and former spokesman Ghazi Hamad have lately advocated negotiating with Israel and better relations with the United States. Youssef also suggested Hamas should study any invitation to attend the Annapolis meeting. Unsurprisingly, no such offer has been made and Hamas leaders, like their Iranian allies, have condemned the conference and Arab states’ decision to join in. [end]
Russia’s Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov
November 26, 2007, 13:38
Fatah-Hamas split could derail Middle East deal: Russian FM
http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/17532
[snip] Lavrov says repairing the split between Hamas and Fatah cannot be ignored. He says “the desires of Palestinian people”, chief of which is “the creation of an independent state”, can only be met once the rift between the rival factions is healed. [end]
Annapolis talks:
A cover for fomenting Palestinian civil war and preparing assault on Iran
Chris Marsden and Jean Shaoul
26 November 2007
[World Socialist website]
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/nov2007/anna-n26.shtml
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> Spot on article...but who’s listening.
Bout says it all.
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Sure does.
Also stinks of Yalta.
Yes it is.
I knew if I read far enough down the thread that someone would take FR’s patented Moderate (tm) to task for the ignoramus he is.
“Its Munich In America (David Horowitz On The Betrayal Of America’s Values Alert)”
As I was muttering to the television a few minutes ago...
“What the h-ll are we doing wasting time trying to find ‘peace’
between a bunch of Muslim Palestinians with our best friends in the Middle East?”
Bump that!
Does that mean I have to give back the medal and sash?
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
Bingo.
Our leaders are, as are the majority of secular Americans, but the Christians are holding on. When the nukes start flying, the majority of Americans will die, but the coastal cities are primarily democratic and secular holdouts. In the end, the rurals will remain, and they are generaly republicans and Christians.
When the majority of America repents before God, perhaps He will come back to us, even after we officialy kicked him out.
The test of any countrys greatness is it willingness to stand for truth, justice and what is right over what is expedient to it desires of the moment.
A test we are failing spectacularly with Israel.
The people Horowitz needs most to convince are US Jews, who have closed their ears to him. Without the support of US Jewry, what difference does it make what Rice does?
bump to find again....
Trust President Bush! He always comes out on top in the end.
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