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Ron Paul Has Won
PatrickRuffini.com ^ | November 26th, 2007 | Patrick Ruffini

Posted on 11/26/2007 1:54:54 PM PST by rob777

He won’t win the nomination. He won’t win any primaries. But for Ron Paul’s quixotic bid for the White House, it’s “Mission Accomplished.”

In the past few months, Ron Paul has dramatically raised the profile of libertarianism inside the Republican Party. My small-l libertarian friends seem more comfortable describing themselves as such, even though they’ll go out of their way to disassociate themselves from Ron Paul and the big-L kind.

Libertarianism in the GOP took a big hit on 9/11, and it’s slowly coming back, with Ron Paul as the catalyst. Its underlying ideals still have appeal well beyond the cramped confines of the LP. If it’s possible to be known as a pro-life, pro-war, pro-wiretapping libertarian, then sign me up. Markos too brands himself a “libertarian Democrat,” though he’s never read Hayek and supports big government social programs.

Some campaigns can win big without ever coming close to winning an actual contest. Pat Robertson’s 1988 campaign signaled that Christian Conservatives had arrived in the GOP. Ron Paul is doing the same for libertarians. This is not a counterweight to the religious right per se, since Paul is identified as pro-life, but it does potentially open up a new army of activists on the right not primarily motivated by social/moral issues.

Not every losing single-issue candidate succeeds like this. Immigration-restrictionists still lack an outlet in the GOP, thanks to Tom Tancredo’s embarrassing tone-deafness as a candidate. Sam Brownback’s campaign had hoped to galvanize single-issue pro-lifers, but was hobbled by his dry persona. Duncan Hunter looks mostly like a campaign for Secretary of Defense.

Assuming Paul loses, where does small-l libertarianism go from here? His movement already did the smart thing by making peace with social conservatism. Libertarianism is no longer aligned with libertine stances on abortion and gay rights.

To become the ascendant ideology within the GOP, I suspect they’ll have to find a way to do the same thing on national security. The war on terror writ large is the one big thing social and economic conservatives agree on, and Ron Paul is vocally aligned against both.

Mainstream Republican libertarians might be gung-ho for Paul’s small-government idealism, they might adopt Glenn Reynoldsish skepticism of the homeland security bureaucracy, and even John McCain has lately made a thing of ripping the military-industrial complex, but there is no way — I repeat NO WAY — they will embrace Ron Paul if he continues to blame America for 9/11 and imply that America is acting illegally in defending itself around the globe. Even if they aren’t the biggest fans of the war, most people that are available for Ron Paul on the right are by temperament patriotic and will never vote for someone who sounds like Noam Chomsky.

As someone who routinely called myself a libertarian prior to 9/11, here’s how I would square the circle: Absolute freedom within our borders, for our own citizens; eternal vigilance and (when necessary) ruthlessness abroad. For libertarian ideals to survive, they must be relentlessly defended against the likes of Islamic extremists. Take a look at Andrew Sullivan’s writing right after 9/11 to see this ideal in its purest form; far from a religious crusade, ours was a war for secularism, tolerance, and free societies where gays don’t get stoned to death.

The key principle is one of reciprocity. If you behave peacefully and embrace the norms of a libertarian society, we leave you alone. If you seek to destroy a free society, we will destroy you.

If they’re serious about defending their ideals and seeing to it that libertarianism survives more than a generation in actual practice, I don’t see any reason why libertarians couldn’t embrace a more conservative positioning on national security.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2kooky; 4georgesoros; beltbomber; catspaw; libertarians; midget; nutcase; paulistinians; ronpaul; ruffini; soros; whackjob; winners
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I find the comparison to Pat Robertson's campaign interesting. That campaign was responsible for bringing a lot of politically active Christians into the GOP. Will Ron's campaign do the same for limited government conservatives? While I do not support his campaign this election cycle, the long term political impact of the movenevt he has inspired is of intense interest to me.
1 posted on 11/26/2007 1:54:55 PM PST by rob777
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To: rob777
In the past few months, Ron Paul has dramatically raised the profile of libertarianism inside the Republican Party.

Yes, but it's not a positive image.


2 posted on 11/26/2007 1:56:27 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: rob777

I wish your analysis were correct and Ron Paul would draw attention to libertarian principles but his attention has been mainly fueled by his anti-war message. Far more Democrats than libertarians are coming to his support.


3 posted on 11/26/2007 1:58:31 PM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: rob777

I think he has raised the profile. I’m not sure he has raised it in a positive direction.


4 posted on 11/26/2007 1:58:35 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: rob777

5 posted on 11/26/2007 1:59:26 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Masterpiece!


6 posted on 11/26/2007 2:01:26 PM PST by lormand (God Bless the USA!)
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To: rob777
In the past few months, Ron Paul has dramatically raised the profile of libertarianism inside the Republican Party.

Yeah, but that profile isn't complimentary. His campaign has done more damage to libertarianism than anything else by connecting it with surrendering in the WOT and appeasement of Islamists rather than what that political movement should be known for -- limited gov't advocacy.

7 posted on 11/26/2007 2:01:37 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: rob777
lib•er•tar•ian

n. 1. a person who believes in the doctrine of the freedom of the will

2. a person who believes in full individual freedom of thought, expression and action

3. a freewheeling rebel who hates wiretaps, loves Ron Paul and is redirecting politics

Libertarians are for the Freedom of all but the Ragheads in faraway places with hard to pronounce names

8 posted on 11/26/2007 2:01:43 PM PST by woofie
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To: rob777
"If you seek to destroy a free society, we will destroy you. "

Destroy? The only Defense the Liberatarian uses is an all-out frontal assault with HOT AIR weaponry.

9 posted on 11/26/2007 2:01:58 PM PST by traditional1
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To: rob777

It’s of interest to me as well. The problem as I see it is this. Those that agree with Paul’s decent views stand a very good chance of being blackballed as simply another fellow traveler of Paul.

Paul presidential campaign has done nothing for true conservatives as far as I am concerned. No, instead he has given the press grounds to dismiss those that support smaller government, less taxation and on and on...


10 posted on 11/26/2007 2:02:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Petronski

His negatives are in the mid-50s among likely voters in Iowa - the more Paul is known, the more he is disliked by his own base.


11 posted on 11/26/2007 2:03:33 PM PST by Baladas
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To: rob777

I think the one thing that Ron Paul running will guarantee is a Democratic victory. Much like Ralph Nadar’s running guaranteed Bush’s election by drawing off votes from then vice-president Al whats his name.


12 posted on 11/26/2007 2:04:45 PM PST by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: rob777

(gad) As long as I don’t have to see the “VOTE RON PAUL” threads any more. Da freak.


13 posted on 11/26/2007 2:06:08 PM PST by stimpy17 (Home of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: Lazarus Longer
"His campaign has done more damage to libertarianism than anything else by connecting it with surrendering in the WOT and appeasement of Islamists rather than what that political movement should be known for -- limited gov't advocacy."


That has been my concern ever since it was announced that he was thinking of running for President. At first, I ignored the campaign for that very reason. Lately, I have been curious as to the make up of the movement he is attracting, so I did some research. Contrary to the standard assumption on this site that most of his support comes from the antiwar left, I have found that he draws a lot of support from those who believe that the GOP has betrayed the cause of limited government. Financially, he seems to be getting some support from the investment community, particularly the hard money investors. I have been desperately looking for a sign that the limited government movement still has some life within the GOP. The story of the Ron Paul campaign is going to be in what becomes of the movement he inspired after the campaign is over.
14 posted on 11/26/2007 2:15:47 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777
Jackie Mason Rebuts Ron Paul Supporters
15 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:18 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Didja read the article?

It starts out observing that Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee - so don’t go into how bad it would be if he is.
The point of the article is that he’s getting rousing the libertarian subset of the Republican party - and that it’s a force to be reconed with.

Ron Paul won’t be the nominee. We know that. Nobody seriously contends he will.
HOWEVER, he’s making it clear that there’s a whole lotta Republicans that agree with him on a lot of issues, and while he won’t “win” by being the nominee (much less POTUS), he has already “won” by garnering lots of support and not being easily dismissed.

There’s a lot of us who, while perhaps put off by some of his comments, agree with him on a LOT of points which other contenders are missing.
Don’t underestimate the influence of the libertarian branch of the Republican party; a successful candidate won’t.


16 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:47 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: rob777

But, why post this article here?


17 posted on 11/26/2007 2:20:02 PM PST by Sonora
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; traviskicks; Eric Blair 2084; George W. Bush; Iwo Jima

Ping


18 posted on 11/26/2007 2:23:52 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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... imply that America is acting illegally in defending itself around the globe.

We were defending ourselves in Bosnia? We were defending ourselves in Somalia? Are we defending ourselves in Djibouti, Ghana? Or in the Philipines, Kyrgyzstan, Paraguay, Uganda, Denmark, Cyprus, Germany, Honduras, and Spain?

19 posted on 11/26/2007 2:27:14 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ctdonath2

Ron Paul is rousing the moonbat subset of the Republican party. True constitutionalist as well as true conservatives think his stances are bunk. Republicans fund him in the hopes he runs as a 3rd party candidate and in doing so pulls votes from the Democrats- not because his message “resonates.” He’s given libertarianism a black-eye.


20 posted on 11/26/2007 2:29:51 PM PST by Prime Rib Minister (Don't know who I will vote for, but I know it won't be Fred)
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