Skip to comments.U.S. and Iraq to negotiate pact on long-term relations
Posted on 11/26/2007 11:03:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
WASHINGTON: The White House announced Monday that it had reached a deal with the Iraqi government to negotiate a formal agreement defining long-term relations between the two nations, including the legal status of American military forces remaining in Iraq.
The "Declaration of Principles" signed Monday via video link by President George W. Bush and the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, does not specify the eventual number of American troops nor the length of their deployment. That issue is certain to be central in the 2008 presidential campaign that will be under way as American and Iraqi negotiators work toward a July deadline on a treaty governing relations between the two countries.
But senior administration officials stressed the significance of the agreement signed Monday, saying that it was leading to a far more durable political, economic and security relationship than is possible under the current United Nations resolution, which serves as the foundation under international law for the American-led effort in Iraq.
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In a statement released after the signing, Prime Minister Maliki praised the agreement and stressed the importance of maintaining a strong relationship between his country and the United States.
"It was built by the brave sacrifices made by both peoples for a democratic and free Iraq," he said.
I really like it....Harry and Nancy have some explaining to do....HEHEHE
In addition, our presence there would have a blanketing effect on large terrorist operations in the area and we could create anti-terror training schools for troubled nations should they need assistance. Not only that, but I would hope that Iraq would offer a large enough area for such an operation without charge, considering the fact that our warriors sacrificed their lives and limbs to free the nation from such a tyrant.
And finally, if we were to pick up and leave, lock, stock and barrel, it would be the stupidest decision we could ever make for a host of reasons.
Never make the MSM news.
Pomegranates are everywhere. There’s a limited-time pomegranate flavored 7Up (which is tasty, BTW), I’ve had some tasty pomegranate flavored Icebreaker mints... and yet, I saw pomegranates at the store yesterday at 2 for $5. Ever try to eat one of those? Better to get one of those cool one-arm bandit orange squeezers and tackle it that way. The juice is delicious, in fact, making a pomegranate ice cream smoothie is incomparable. And really good for you. ;’) Thanks E.
I bet they’ll have some of the longest face you’ve every seen when they hear this news.
I hope so!
Not only have we won,....but we are NOT going home, for awhile!
The United States also pledged to support Iraq's economic development and to provide financial and technical assistance. Significantly, the document committed the United States to support Iraq in receiving "preferential trading conditions," including joining the World Trade Organization and receiving most-favored-nation trading status with Washington.
By NICHOLAS WAPSHOTT
Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 27, 2007 posted 11/26/07 11:25 pm EST
And so the Battle of Iraq is to be brought to an end, in T.S. Eliot's phrase, "not with a bang but a whimper."
With the eyes of the world focused on the Middle East peace talks in Annapolis, Md., President Bush's war tsar, Lieutenant General Douglas Lute, quietly announced that the American and Iraqi governments will start talks early next year to bring about an end to the allied occupation by the close of Mr. Bush's presidency.
The negotiations will bring to a formal conclusion the U.N. Chapter 7 Security Council involvement in the occupation and administration of Iraq, and are expected to reduce the number of American troops to about 50,000 troops permanently stationed there but largely confined to barracks, from the current 164,000 forces on active duty.
"The basic message here should be clear. Iraq is increasingly able to stand on its own. That's very good news. But it won't have to stand alone," General Lute yesterday told reporters in the White House.
Bringing the war to a close by the end of 2008 will ensure that the next president will face a fait accompli in Iraq, a fact that will further remove from the presidential election the Iraq war as an issue of contention.
give the pips to the RATS?
hey, let's work out the minor details later...much much later...like in about twenty years sounds good to me!
And thanks for all the Good News pings!
That’s an awful lot of pips... I like to think there aren’t that many RATS. :’D
Any idea how your new guy is gonna react to this?
We all knew that the left would be a bit upset once a deal was made to stay in Iraq indefinitely, as a partner, and as we do still in Japan and Germany some 60 years after the war:
Iraq's government, seeking protection against foreign threats and internal coups, will offer the U.S. a long-term troop presence in Iraq in return for U.S. security guarantees as part of a strategic partnership, two Iraqi officials said Monday.
But the left will scream about something or another anyways. If every single soldier had been sent back to the US they would have said that there were secret deals going on to ensure we are pulling the strings, because we are the puppetmasters you see? Now when news comes that the Iraqi's want us around as partners for security, the left are wailing such sillyness as "staying was the plan all along."
Get it? We went in for oil you see.....that's why we have such cheap gas now.
Bet that it may we still have 37,000 troops in South Korea for exactly the same reasons that the Iraqi's want us to stay in Iraq. A tripwire against further aggression.
Whether the future aggressor is North Korea, China or some other rogue country that isn't on the radar yet, countries want insurance. And most feel that taking out that insurance with the United States is their best bet. Hell, Germany no longer has fears of a USSR attack but we're still there. Why? Because you never know when your gonna need military support. And did you know that we have security relationships with over 100 countries worldwide? No outcry from the left on those arrangements tho.
Get this headline from a lefty site:
War Czar: Permanent Iraq Bases Won't Require Senate RatificationTo their credit they paste the full quote from the General about this fact:
Q General, will the White House seek any congressional input on this?Again, no outcry about the one hundred similar agreements that were put in place without Senate ratification. Shocker!
GENERAL LUTE: In the course of negotiations like this, it's not -- it is typical that there will be a dialogue between congressional leaders at the negotiating table, which will be run out of the Department of State. We don't anticipate now that these negotiations will lead to the status of a formal treaty which would then bring us to formal negotiations or formal inputs from the Congress.
Q Is the purpose of avoiding the treaty avoiding congressional input?
GENERAL LUTE: No, as I said, we have about a hundred agreements similar to the one envisioned for the U.S. and Iraq already in place, and the vast majority of those are below the level of a treaty.
No. He's been very tight-lipped about Iraq. I can't recall a single mention of the subject during his campaign for election. There was a general comment in the past few days that several hundred aussie troops would leave Iraq to be deployed in Afghanistan...but the majority would remain in Iraq. My general impression is the aussies have elected a Giant Smiley for their Prime Minister. He's a Diplomat. Full of empty rhetoric but he delivers it so well... There was one clear message for the muzzies in his acceptance speech however - he said Oz deserves to be protected from terrorism and our borders will be strongly protected. So...if the Left expects the doors to be opened to 'refugees' methinks they will be sorely dissappointed.
Ask an you shall receive. Looks good.
Well that seems to be Good!