Skip to comments.Redacted: This Movie Can Kill
Posted on 11/27/2007 11:27:53 AM PST by Phil Harmonic
How many American soldiers will lose their lives because of this anti-war movie? That is the first question anyone who sees the recently released anti-American film should ask. I was one of only four people at the Ritz Bourse theater for the first showing in Philadelphia last Friday. I hope this suggests that it will fail to find an audience in the United States. I have no doubt it will be a hit with those who seek to destroy America.
While the pattern of Hollywoods anti-American commitment is the same as it was in Vietnam, one of the major differences between Vietnam and Iraq is the timing of the Hollywood movies. At least Hollywood generally waited until the troops were out of Vietnam before their movies were released vilifying American soldiers. Today, the studios are competing to get the movies out NOW while our troops are still in the line of fire.
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I would assume that, too; but all reports are that EVERYBODY is staying away.
Redacted is Red Acted.............
Bombs away. In its opening weekend, “Redacted” earned $25,628 while “Beowulf” earned $27,515,871. Theaters earned $8,100 per screen for “Beowulf” while “Redacted” only earned $1,708 per screen. Subtitle: Mark Cuban watches his money circle the drain.
Is there any evidence that the events as portrayed in Redacted ever took place?
Yes, they are staying away in droves.
But the overseas markets for these movies will be very specific. Watch for a Farsi and Arabic translation to be hurried into print so they can be released to the Middle East and Asia. And within six months, we’ll be seeing them sold in the street markets in Baghdad, Kabul and the West Bank.
Its impossible to believe that the film makers/producers/promoters/etc are too naive to understand that people who do actually hate America are going to be using their films as the ‘proof’ that America is the Great Satan and a recruiting tool for more suicide bombers.
To all the Dallas Mavericks fans out there, you need to know that the owner of this NBA franchise, (Mark Cuban) financed this awful anti-American, anti- U.S. Soldier fiction-piece during a TIME OF WAR!!!!
I can only hope and pray that Mav's fans stop supporting this leftist/socialist P.O.S. until that point when the franchise is sold to a more Patriotic person(s).
Does Michael Moore like basketball?
Yup. Brian De Palma ought to be made to live in one of those hell holes, instead of this country that he hates so much. Of course, he is the kind of wuss who wouldn’t last five minutes in one of those places.
And his Mavs are going down the very same drain.
The cash flow from middle eastern countries for movie theater tickets is what exactly? I would think there is a small population that can afford to pay for a movie. Street markets will be selling knock-offs and nobody in Hollywood will see a penny of those sales.
As to the propaganda value -- they hate us already, will this movie make them hate us more? I think not. The whole issue is a tempest in a tea pot.
But DePalma tries to convey the impression that these incidents happen constantly, are covered up, and “redacted” from news media reports.
DePalma is a sleazy sack of human garbage. Sadly he is like most in Hollywood—an industry incapable of producing anything anymore but celluloid dog feces.
With the demise of the Studio powers-that-were, the stars became disproportionately powerful. Today, actors don't give a damn about impressing anyone but other actors...and you know where that leads.
Did anyone see the montage with Cuban's Dancing with the Stars footage and the American soldiers fighting on Fox news last night. I loved it.
Why does Dallas continue to support his team?
:-) apt description.
Brain De Palma should be forced to spend a week in the streets of Baghdad for producing this treasonous filth. See how the jihadis treat him....
And take Mark Cuban too!
How Hollywood “Supports” the troops...
Sorry folks for the visual, but apt as well I think as it is just disgusting and our honorable service men and women pay the price for a film that needs to be buried with lime in the sewer. Sounds as though it is already being buried by the American people though :-). Thank you for posting the article. It is right on!
Marc Cuban offered to sell the movie to Brian De Palma at cost so he could release it in any form and to whoever he wanted, and he refused the offer. Even the director knows his movie is worthless crap that will never make any money.
On his show yesterday, Michael Medved reported on what a certifiable turkey this movie is; he gave some of the abysmal box office numbers.
Every Dallas Mavericks’ fan stabs an American soldier in the back when he gives his nickle to Mark Cuban.
Yes, according to the box office, fewer than 3,000 people saw it last weekend.
Was surprised to see Redacted for sale for $20 on “On Demand” on my Verizon Fios last weekend.
They’re going out of their way to try and pipeline this crap to the masses.
War film’s portrayal of soldiers draws fire from GOP lawmaker
Nov. 22, 2007
Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Republican, sent a scathing letter regarding Brian De Palma’s new film to MPAA Chairman Dan Glickman asking that he not forget that there are heroes who have sacrificed their lives for the United States and Iraqi people.
“Unfortunately, Brian De Palma’s new movie ‘Redacted,’ which opened in several theaters this week, portrays American service personnel in Iraq as uncontrollable misfits and criminals,” Mr. Hunter stated in his letter to Mr. Glickman. “While incidents of criminal behavior by members of our military should never be ignored, the isolated incident on which this film is based negatively portrays American service personnel and misrepresents their collective efforts in Iraq.”
Other military officials worry that the film could be used as propaganda against troops in the region and incite violence against them by Islamist group.....
“This incident, while tragic, demonstrates the goodness and generosity of our nation’s military, and its continued mission in Iraq,” Mr. Hunter said, reminding Mr. Glickman and Mr. De Palma of the continuing sacrifices U.S. troops have made.
“The film intentionally fails to show or give any indication of the more than 3 million inoculations administered by American forces, the construction of medical clinics and schools, as well as the construction of other important infrastructure,” the letter went on to state. “Additionally, the film’s negative depiction of our military blatantly ignores the many acts of heroism performed by our soldiers, Marines, airmen and sailors in Iraq.”
People need to stop doing business with people who willingly go against this country- people such as Cuban.
If nothing else, this tripe should serve as a clarion call to our Iraq era veterans as to what the left has in store for them given the opportunity. Vietnam Veterans have paid the price of ambivalence in the face of leftist activism and propaganda...right down to the historical narratives used to teach our children.
The “Iraq Veterans Legacy Foundation” doesn’t yet exist. Hopefully they won’t give the America haters another 30 year head start.
Good question. We keep hearing that the film is based on a true story. I wonder how true it is. And even if it is true, why do a film like this during wartime about an isolated incident that will be prosecuted if it really happened?
Looks like they have. Ten days in and its widest release has been only 15 theaters.
Uh-huh. We keep hearing that J F'n Kerry's Viet Nam story is true, too. Crap is crap, no matter what the source!
I’ve never heard of this movie. I doubt it’s going to get many viewers unless we give them free publicity by making a big stink.
Cuban is one of those George soros types with so much money they can afford to keep having debacles like this lose money for 2-300 years and still never have to worry about where his next meal is coming from.
I just hope we dont cause such a backlash that libs go to see it to bring numbers up...of course it will get nominated for the academy awards.
Cuban tried to bail out but De Palma wasn’t about to give back the money. Cuban was an idiot to get into this in the first place but when the heat started on him he tried to cut bait. I’m glad he didn’t get let off the hook. Everybody involved in that turkey should not only loss lots of money but also be subject to the shame of its existence.
Here’s the link to the picture of Mark Cuban for post #35
Its true that the monetary value is modest but the propaganda value is not. The only thing better than the testimony of a traitor to prove your side of the conflict to your supporters is something captured from the other side which proves you are right.
The jihadis will be the only people in the world to actually pay to see these crappy movies. And lets say that only a few dozen people worldwide see De Palmas film and decide that they need to join the jihad? Certainly a great return on investment for Al Qaeda since they didn’t even have to produce the film.
Many people hate us around the world. But if you add hollywood quality theatrics to that hatred you are increasing its intensity. Its an infinitely more attractive message when you can see and actually believe that the US soldiers in Iraq are there to torture, rape and kill Iraqi women and children. And that is the message they are getting from these movies. Propaganda has always been a valuable tool and dictators around the world have used it for centuries.
I don't think there are any jihadis in Baghdad to amount to anything. Not many more left in Iraq, for that matter. Perhaps we should send him to Pakistan's NW Provinces.
This Dallasite doesn't, I root for the Spurs.
Dan Rather works for him, too!
Yes, Duncan Hunter is always there to make things right for the country, no matter how rigorous and time consuming his campaign may be. Too bad he seldom gets any credit from the media for what he does.
Thank you, AuntB, for bringing this to our attention. :)
There are a lot of ways to make Mark Cubans’ other money swirl down the drain outside of this celluloid abomination...
Just food for thought...
The way you hurt people like this is make them not able to make more money than they used to...
Robert McMahon has no cause to be upset- the film is a resounding flop. In many places, it only played for a week, including San Fransisco. The American people have rejected it by acclimation.
“But the overseas markets for these movies will be very specific.”
Michael Medved talked about this when he first learned of the movie being filmed.
Muslims are the target audience that the film was produced for.
Medved on ‘Redacted’: ‘It Could Be the Worst Movie I’ve Ever Seen’
By Dave Pierre | November 18, 2007 - 19:38 ET
“It could be the worst movie I’ve ever seen” ... “[T]he out and out worst, most disgusting, most hateful, most incompetent, most revolting, most loathsome, most reprehensible cinematic work I have ever encountered.” ... “It portrays the members of our Marine Corps in the most disgusting way imaginable.” ... “This film is an atrocity. It is zero stars.” ... “I honestly was close to vomiting when I saw the film.” ... “It is a slander on the United States of America.” ... “Everyone associated with this film ought to be ashamed.” ... “Will it inspire future terrorists? Of course it will!”
That’s prominent movie critic Michael Medved on the new film “Redacted.” Lest anyone think that Bill O’Reilly’s recent outrage over the film is an overreaction, Medved tells Bill, “It’s worse than you think.”
I heard that this piece of trash and others like it — Lions for Lambs, etc. — are being called war porn! How apt.
Maybe all the producers of this trash will go bankrupt making movies that no real American wants to go see. I’m not even going to watch it when it comes on ON DEMAND. And DePalma will never get a dime of my movie going dollar either, nor will Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise or Robert Redford, or anyone else who wants to make movies that put our men/women in uniform in bad light.
They just don’t get it. But maybe they’ll go broke instead.
So either they are terrible judges of the market, which is unlikely, or they are not really losing money on these projects.
To take the first possibility first, I don't think their judgement could be that bad. Sure, they release a stinker every now and then, but they hit the target much more often than they miss. For every Ishtar there are a dozen Chevy Chase movies that made back their investment and turned a tidy profit. But they have made horrendous losers eight times in a row here. There must be an explaination.
Which brings me to my second possibility. Perhaps they are not losing money. Perhaps they are getting paid to make these films by somebody other than ticket buyers at the box office. Perhaps there is some person, or a group of people, who want to influence American public opinion on the War, and are willing to funnel $100 Million to various Hollywood producers to make movies to make that happen.
It is a more plausible scenario than the supposition that eight different Producers and hundreds of other supporting personel suddenly forgot everything they had used to build up their businesses over a lifetime of work, and all had the same stupid idea at the same time. These movies are all deal with different aspects of the Iraq War, all portray the US unfavorably, all seek to sap our will to fight, and are coming out at roughly four-week intervals, right through the US Presidential election.
Under the current campaign financing rules, there is only so much money you can give to an anti-war candidate. So what is somebody with a Billion dollars sitting around who wants to influence US public opinion to do?
Of course, this scenario means that one person did make a really big mistake. The person who thought Hollywood had the power to dictate public opinion and that whatever clap-trap Hollywood threw up on the screen would be eagerly consumed by the US population made a major miscalculation. And for that mistake, he has thrown away his money and will receive nothing in return.
Which is not a bad result, when you get right down to it.
Well reasoned Gridlock and certainly within the realm of plausibility. Undoubtedly the MSM will get right on this.
On another note, I was COMPELLED by my niece to watch this evening’s finale of “Dancing With The Stars” which would be a first for me. Try to imagine my reaction as I saw “Mark Cuban” introduced to perform as one of the already eliminated duos.
Just saw the trailer, and it stated; “Also Coming soon on Magnolia DVD”. DePalma wants to make sure his message gets out there.
We do know that Mark Cuban is one of the people who is paying Hollywood to make these films. I’m sure a little digging would turn up some other names.