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URGENT ... HELP REQUIRED. NEED US MIL INTERMEDIARY DUE TO IMPENDING DEATH IN FAMILY(Update #111)
MarineMom613 | ME

Posted on 11/27/2007 12:46:44 PM PST by MarineMom613

Sorry for long title and caps. I am typing thru tears. My mom is dying of pancreatic cancer. She raised my son and I got thru to Red Cross & Hospice and they approved it. Military is denying it saying she is not loco parentis. On top of that nobody knows how to do the paper work. My son is her baby (30 Year Old Marine) and she is all she wants. Seems to be holding on for him. She just took a drastic turn for the worst yesterday. I need a congressman/senator anyone who I can call and try to push this through. I am literally BEGGING. I am losing my best friend and I need My Son home but More importantly, SHE needs him. She is basically unconcious but everytime she hears a mans voice she screams out that Rob is Here Bring him to me now. Dont' know how much longer she has. Any help appreciated... Prayers too!. He has served 2 tours in Iraq and has made the Military his career and he is lost right now. Please. He is in Camp Lejuene, NC and is scheduled to go out on a training excerise tomorrow on ship. Hospice and Red Cross pushed it through and Military is pushing it somewhere else.


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KEYWORDS: camplejeune; cancer; cao; congress; congressman; death; help; hospice; marines; military; nc; pancreaticcancer; prayer; prayerrequest; prayers; redcross; senate; senator
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To: MarineMom613; SandRat; patriciaruth; Kathy in Alaska

Ping folks.


41 posted on 11/27/2007 1:33:50 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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bttt

and prayers for family


42 posted on 11/27/2007 1:35:21 PM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: MarineMom613
I hope this helps -
Milpersman Section 1050-130 6.a.3 states:
In Loco Parentis is defined as a person who stood in place of the parent 24 hours a day for at least 5 years before the service member turned 21 or entered the service.

If this defines your situation:
Write a brief statement indicating that the ill lady meets this definition - include the applicable dates of service 'In Loco Parentis' - and get this letter counter signed by an independant witness who can attest to the 'loco parentis' declaration. Get BOTH signatures notarized.

Then:
Get a letter from the attending physician indicating that his presence would contribute to the welfare of the ill lady. (This, unfortunately is a key item. If his presence would not so contribute as certified by the attending physician then leave cannot be granted unless the lady paseses.)

Then:
Contact your local chapter of the American Red Cross, and obtain a short letter indicating that they have verified the situation.

Then:
Send a copy to your son via regular mail AND send copies to the Command OMBUDSMAN.

Then:
Pray.

.

Please be aware that it is possible that leave may not be granted prior to her passing. This would be neither a misinterpretation of the regulations nor an abuse of power. The final decision always rests with the commanding officer. Contacting your elected representatives will be neither helpful nor effective as they have no jurisdiction in this matter and can only serve to interfere in ongoing operations and the authority of the CO.

How do I know all this?
Former Naval Officer, former Command Legal Officer, former Command Administrative and Personnel Officer.

43 posted on 11/27/2007 1:38:32 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: MarineMom613
since he is on NC I suggest you contact

Greenville N.C. Office:
Congressman Walter Jones
1105-C Corporate Drive
Greenville, NC 27858-4211
Phone: 252-931-1003 or toll-free (in N.C. only) 800-351-1697
Fax: 252-931-1002

Washington, DC Office:
Congressman Walter Jones
2333 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington DC 20515
Phone: 202 225-3415
Fax: 202 225-3286


He does have a way with the military here

44 posted on 11/27/2007 1:42:30 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: MarineMom613
to go out on a training excerise tomorrow on ship

pre-deployment exercises? They are next to impossible to get out of (for good reason), and (I say this with the utmost respect and delicacy) she will likely have to die before the USMC lets him out of a deployment.

45 posted on 11/27/2007 1:42:34 PM PST by SwankyC
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To: MarineMom613
"In loco parentis" translates literally "in the place of a parent." I'm guessing that the military would give leave for a dying parent, but not a grandparent when the parent is around. If a grandmother, or aunt, or family friend acted in loco parentis, then the brass would respond as if that person were a birth mother.

The camp Leheune chaplain's office number is 910-451-5633, and it's staffed from 0730 to 1630 Monday-Friday. The info is available at http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/mcb/chaplain/index.html, via the "emergency information" link at the bottom of the left-hand column. It's a downloadable .doc file for no apparent reason.

If they can't provide any help in a timely manner, I'd suggest going to groups like the VFW and American Legion. They will know where to find a sympathetic reporter, and believe me, nothing gets results lie high-profile public embarrassment.

46 posted on 11/27/2007 1:42:39 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: AliVeritas

I really don’t, Ali, but reading thru the thread, it looks like many other FReepers are being of great help.

PRAYERS UP!


47 posted on 11/27/2007 1:46:00 PM PST by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: Gone_Postal

I hope your post is ignored and that the matter is handled properly and responsibly within the rules.


48 posted on 11/27/2007 2:01:39 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: MarineMom613

Red Cross just called. They cant’ go know farther than processing and verifying. Clintons office for Military ( Voice Mail ) Schumer office (No answer at all)


49 posted on 11/27/2007 2:04:58 PM PST by MarineMom613 (My Son is My Hero!!!)
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To: MarineMom613

Please read my post #43 - I am giving you solid advice.


50 posted on 11/27/2007 2:13:14 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold

Sounds like it to me. There’s a way to work every system and you sound like you know this one, I hope she follows your advice.


51 posted on 11/27/2007 2:29:20 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: BlueNgold

Did you call the family readiness office at Camp LJ for his batallion?


52 posted on 11/27/2007 2:31:40 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: MarineMom613

First step should be to contact your congressman and senators.


53 posted on 11/27/2007 2:33:31 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MarineMom613

Has your son gone to his Commanding Officer and requested leave?? As a CO many years ago that would be a no brainer and we would have had your son on his way in a few hours....probably with emergency pay in his pocket if requested. All this talk of calling congress critters does nothing but muck up the process.


54 posted on 11/27/2007 2:33:59 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: MarineMom613

ttt


55 posted on 11/27/2007 2:39:25 PM PST by ralph rotten
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To: PAR35
First step should be to contact your congressman and senators.

Exactly wrong.
Not only should this not be your first step it should not even be a consideration for any step in this circumstance.

Please, please, read #43.
I have given the complete and correct answer.
I have dealt with this issue not just once or twice, but DOZENS of times.

Please feel free to email me here with any further questions.

56 posted on 11/27/2007 2:43:17 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold

You can either work up the chain of command until you reach someone who will study the problem until it takes care of itself, or you can bring a little light from above.

We both know that the congressman probably doesn’t care what the final decision is in most cases, but the congressional will ensure that new sets of eyes look at the problem. The congressman is going to get a response, and someone will have to prepare a report to go to the person who will have to sign off on the response.

You may not end up with the response you want, but the problem will reach a decision maker.

Of course, you have to make the initial decision that you are willing to pay the price that may come with taking a course of action.


57 posted on 11/27/2007 2:58:56 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MarineMom613

Praying for your mom and your whole family.


58 posted on 11/27/2007 3:01:26 PM PST by MomwithHope
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To: MarineMom613
RED CROSS

They will verify and contact the command.

59 posted on 11/27/2007 3:03:26 PM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: BlueNgold
BUMPING AND COPYING POST 43...
 

To: MarineMom613
 
I hope this helps -
Milpersman Section 1050-130 6.a.3 states:
In Loco Parentis is defined as a person who stood in place of the parent 24 hours a day for at least 5 years before the service member turned 21 or entered the service.

If this defines your situation:
Write a brief statement indicating that the ill lady meets this definition - include the applicable dates of service 'In Loco Parentis' - and get this letter counter signed by an independant witness who can attest to the 'loco parentis' declaration. Get BOTH signatures notarized.

Then:
Get a letter from the attending physician indicating that his presence would contribute to the welfare of the ill lady. (This, unfortunately is a key item. If his presence would not so contribute as certified by the attending physician then leave cannot be granted unless the lady paseses.)

Then:
Contact your local chapter of the American Red Cross, and obtain a short letter indicating that they have verified the situation.

Then:
Send a copy to your son via regular mail AND send copies to the Command OMBUDSMAN.

Then:
Pray.

.

Please be aware that it is possible that leave may not be granted prior to her passing. This would be neither a misinterpretation of the regulations nor an abuse of power. The final decision always rests with the commanding officer. Contacting your elected representatives will be neither helpful nor effective as they have no jurisdiction in this matter and can only serve to interfere in ongoing operations and the authority of the CO.

How do I know all this?
Former Naval Officer, former Command Legal Officer, former Command Administrative and Personnel Officer.


 

43 posted on 11/27/2007 1:38:32 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
 


60 posted on 11/27/2007 3:04:32 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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