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Bill targets Hannah Montana ticket scalpers
miamiherald.com ^ | 11/19/07 | GARY FINEOUT

Posted on 11/28/2007 7:08:32 AM PST by TornadoAlley3

TALLAHASSEE -- Responding to what he calls ''obscenely high prices'' for concert tickets, a state lawmaker from Miami Beach wants to crack down on people who scoop up tickets and resell them at hundreds of dollars more than face value.

Rep. Dan Gelber, who has two daughters, ages 7 and 9, will unveil his proposed legislation Tuesday at North Beach Elementary School, just hours before Disney Channel pop sensation Hannah Montana performs at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise.

His bill -- which would have to navigate through a GOP-controlled Legislature before becoming law -- takes aim primarily at those who resell tickets. Gelber, the House Democratic leader, is upset with ticket brokers and others who obtained large numbers of tickets to the Montana show through automated software. Tickets for Hannah Montana are being resold for hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of dollars more than face value.

''A lot of people who wanted to go to the concert would have obtained tickets instead of most of them going to scalpers and resellers,'' said Gelber, who said he was unable to buy tickets to the Montana show because he was unwilling to pay the inflated prices.

Last year, state lawmakers repealed Florida's anti-scalping law that prevented anyone from reselling a concert ticket for more than $1 above the face value. The Legislature overwhelmingly approved the proposal.

Gelber's bill would not bring back the anti-scalping law, but it would make it a crime to use ''ticket purchasing software'' to obtain tickets from a website. The legislation would also require companies that resell tickets to register with the state and post a $50,000 bond. Those who break the law could be fined three times the amount of the scalped ticket.

Any effort to impose price caps on resold tickets would likely be opposed by those who pushed to change Florida law in 2006.

A spokesman for Ticketmaster, the world's largest ticketing company, said there remains a need for people to be able to buy tickets from those who are reselling.

''We recognize and respect the need for a legitimate resale market -- one where tickets are acquired initially in an appropriate and lawful manner, where all relevant laws are complied with, and where the terms and conditions set by the event provider'' are respected, said spokesman Joseph Freeman.

Gelber is trying to enlist the help of Miley Cyrus, the teenage girl who portrays Montana, to join him. Gelber wrote a letter to her agent in California on Monday asking her to attend his Tuesday press conference.

''My daughters -- Sophie [age 9] and Hannah [age 7] -- love your show. My wife and I also like it because it contains family friendly themes. Regrettably, our daughters will be unable to attend your Broward County concert on Tuesday because so many of the tickets were purchased by ticket scalpers who are reselling them at obscenely high premiums,'' Gelber wrote.

''I recognize that the circumstances that created this were not of your making. However, it has hurt your fans -- including the ones in my family -- so I hope you will be willing to speak out,'' he added.

Hannah Montana concerts have created a frenzy across the country and three state attorney generals have launched investigations into the sale of the tickets. Last week a lawsuit was filed against Montana's fan club, alleging that those who joined were told that they would be given first crack at concert tickets.


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1 posted on 11/28/2007 7:08:32 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Daddy using his position of power for his own benefit....

$50 says he’s raising a couple of little princesses


2 posted on 11/28/2007 7:11:20 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bill targets Hannah Montana ticket scalpers

I thought this story was about Former President Clinton. Of course, then he would be going after the concertgoers, not the scalpers...

3 posted on 11/28/2007 7:12:48 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I looked at the headline too quick!

I thought it read Bill Targets Hannah Montana. I thought, “There goes that ole’ philanderer again!”


4 posted on 11/28/2007 7:13:26 AM PST by hotshu (Rush is RIGHT! The left is WRONG!)
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To: hotshu

LOL!


5 posted on 11/28/2007 7:13:58 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Had "ticket scalpers" been removed from the subject line, would've thought that the ex-liar-in-chief was at it again...


6 posted on 11/28/2007 7:14:27 AM PST by pookie18 (Of course, I'm voting for the Republican nominee!!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Free Market is quickly being replaced. Other artists have found reasonable ways around this issue without government intervention.


7 posted on 11/28/2007 7:15:30 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: misterrob
$50 says he’s raising a couple of little princesses.

You can't fool me, I know you read the second sentence of the article!

8 posted on 11/28/2007 7:16:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TornadoAlley3

Can anyone remember the last time a new law was proposed just because a lawmaker’s little girls got their feelings hurt?


9 posted on 11/28/2007 7:18:42 AM PST by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The concert promoter should just put all the tickets on eBay. The market would decide the price for every seat and the artist/promoter would get the money instead of these scalper who really add nothing of value to the process.


10 posted on 11/28/2007 7:19:54 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m waiting for the day when all tickets for entertainment (sports, concerts, etc.) are sold on an auction basis.


11 posted on 11/28/2007 7:20:10 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Tax-chick; B-Chan; stands2reason; Moose4; bitt; Fierce Allegiance; ukie55; metmom; ...

I gotta be honest . . . she’s a pretty girl, and from all accounts a decent talent, but I cannot stand the name “Miley.”


12 posted on 11/28/2007 7:24:06 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Dang. I read the title and thought Slick was about to make the move on Billy Ray’s kid.


13 posted on 11/28/2007 7:27:22 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Xenalyte

I read an article about her recently when I was waiting somewhere. Hairdresser, I think. Anyway, “Miley” is a nickname; her real name is “Destiny Hope Cyrus,” which I think is also crummy.


14 posted on 11/28/2007 7:29:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

She’s here in Atlanta tonight. Up to 5000 bogus tickets have been bought. The only way to find out if your tickets are bogus are to show up at the show and have your tickets scanned. Good tickets go in, bogus tickets go home. That’ll be one hell of a ride back to the house.


15 posted on 11/28/2007 7:29:54 AM PST by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: hotshu; gridlock

Yes, I must admit that my first thought involved x42 and a stripper with a cowgirl gimmick...


16 posted on 11/28/2007 7:30:16 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: Tax-chick

Okay, how on EARTH does one extract “Miley” from “Destiny Hope”?

And speaking of, did Billy Ray and the missus get lazy re naming and just pick their favorite inspirational nouns?


17 posted on 11/28/2007 7:31:45 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Crawdad
She’s here in Atlanta tonight. Up to 5000 bogus tickets have been bought. The only way to find out if your tickets are bogus are to show up at the show and have your tickets scanned. Good tickets go in, bogus tickets go home. That’ll be one hell of a ride back to the house.

It's gonna be ugly.

18 posted on 11/28/2007 7:33:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Xenalyte
I gotta be honest . . . she’s a pretty girl, and from all accounts a decent talent, but I cannot stand the name “Miley.”

I always think of a horse my mom used to own named "Smiley". ;)

19 posted on 11/28/2007 7:34:33 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Exactly. “Miley” sounds like a little kid failing to pronounce “smiley” correctly.


20 posted on 11/28/2007 7:35:19 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Xenalyte

Iirc correctly, they have six or seven children, so they could have gone the “stick a pin in the dictionary” route :-).

The story I read said they called her “Smiley” when she was a baby, and then got lazy with pronunciation and ended up with “Miley.” Sort of like my calling Vlad “Twinkleknees” when he was crawling, and then “Twinkles,” and now “Twink” ... if we used “Twink” as his professional name when we becomes a star!


21 posted on 11/28/2007 7:35:55 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

See 21 - you got it right!


22 posted on 11/28/2007 7:36:39 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

There must not be any other pressing problems to solve/address for the good citizens of Florida...


23 posted on 11/28/2007 7:38:31 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: TornadoAlley3
''My daughters -- Sophie [age 9] and Hannah [age 7] -- love your show. My wife and I also like it because it contains family friendly themes."

Since when do Democrats support "family friendly themes?"

24 posted on 11/28/2007 7:39:52 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYisra'el 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet passim.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

If parents want to shell out money for the crap Disney passes off as “music” I say let ‘em pay $5000 per ticket. Once “Hannah” reaches puberty her music fan base will evaporate. See Hillary Duff.


25 posted on 11/28/2007 7:42:04 AM PST by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bill Graham Presents solved this problem long ago. Ticket sales required physical presence for concerts that were hyper demand, and were limited. No electronic selling.

They even had guys who watched the lines: they saw you twice, you were gone. And they knew who the scalpers were, had pictures of them.

Rattle anything you want about "free market". Bill Graham booked those performers and wanted to sell his tickets to the people who were going to his shows, and the scalpers pissed him off. He didn't see any reason why they should profit for all of his work just by showing up early or scamming Ticketmaster. And that was his freedom to do in his market.

So a Stones ticket might have cost a fair amount, but it came from BGP, and everyone paid the same price, and I never heard a complaint from the people going to the concerts.

The scalpers looked a bit upset, though.

26 posted on 11/28/2007 7:43:55 AM PST by Regulator
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To: TornadoAlley3

...I think more and more the public is frozen out of tickets to major sporting events, concerts and other live performances....I first saw this 10 years ago when my wife and I wanted to see “Stars on Ice”....tickets were to go on sale at 10am on a Monday....at 9:59 I dialed six digits of the Ticketron number....at precisely 10:00 I punched in the 7th digit and the call went thru...the best I could do were seats way up high in the corner...the next day there were plenty of good sideline seats from ticket brokers in the paper!

Now here’s what really gripes my butt....when the city fathers want a new colesium they tell the public “vote ‘yes’ on this $40 million bond proposal so we can attract big events”....well the new arena will attract big events all right, but the average guy will never see one unless he’s prepared to pay thru the nose....and this in a building that the public paid for!!


27 posted on 11/28/2007 7:52:07 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Tax-chick
"...if we used “Twink” as his professional name..."

Just so you know, "twink" is slang in the gay world for a young, easily-exploitable male who has not yet been ruined. Short for Twinkie, meaning fresh.

Learned it here on FR years ago, so don't get any crazy ideas!

28 posted on 11/28/2007 7:58:03 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Ugh. One learns the most unpleasant things here ...


29 posted on 11/28/2007 7:59:05 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: Xenalyte
I cannot stand the name “Miley.”

Thank goodness we're not on the metric system, "Kilometery" would be worse.

30 posted on 11/28/2007 8:03:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tax-chick
I like to think that "forewarned is forearmed".

I'd rather know about this stuff and avoid it than run into it, happenstance, in our society.

A nuts and bolts example is the gay hook-up spots in my town. I like to ride my mountain bike (at night, now that it gets dark so early), and have found that one biking spot is also a gay spot. After my first run-in with "Bruce of the Woods" I learned my lesson and ride elsewhere!

31 posted on 11/28/2007 8:03:58 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: Xenalyte
"Destiny" and "Hope" actually mean something. They're also spelled correctly.

How many folks, do you suppose, know the linguistic origin and meaning of their given names?

32 posted on 11/28/2007 8:08:31 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Xenalyte

Here in Texas, Miley is pronounced “Molly”.


33 posted on 11/28/2007 8:10:52 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Not many, which surprises me.

Given names and their meanings/origins have always interested me.


34 posted on 11/28/2007 8:17:40 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: misterrob

Gee, ticket scalping..now there’s a hotbutton issue! My brother lived off his earnings scalping Bruce Springsteen tickets in the early 1980’s! It effects this guy, so all of a sudden IT MUST BE STOPPED! LOL!


35 posted on 11/28/2007 8:22:04 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: Xenalyte
Not many, particularly those known as 'Tahkweela' ...
36 posted on 11/28/2007 8:22:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Have you ever seen this show??? I can’t believe I’m admitting this, but my hubby and I started watching it and it’s just a wholesome, old-fashioned sit-com for kids. the kids are dressed appropriately, the jokes are funny (and corny), the acting is pretty good for what it is, and best of all (and different from other shows geared at tweens) THE SEXUAL INNUENDOS are completely innocent. It reminds me of TV from the 70’s. When you get through with the marketing and the music, these Cyrus’s are going to be BILLIONAIRES. Genius marketing.


37 posted on 11/28/2007 8:25:51 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: Xenalyte
First time I heard that name, it was on my friends dog: MAILE. She explained it was a Hawaiian word for some kind of flower:

Maile (pronounced MY-lay*) Alyxia oliviformis ("chain resembling olive") is a flowering vine in the family Apocynaceae that can be found in native forests of the Hawaiian Islands. Maile grows on a vine with green oval pointed leaves. The leaves have a strong vanilla-like fragrance. Maile grows in cool moist climates with indirect sunlight.

38 posted on 11/28/2007 8:28:19 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: Hildy

I’m trying to think of an “innocent” sexual innuendo. Haha.


39 posted on 11/28/2007 8:29:16 AM PST by hoppity
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To: hoppity

There are...normal teen things...kissing, etc. The character in this show is a gorgeous 15 year old. You have to address the boy/girl thing. But they do it tastefully and funny.


40 posted on 11/28/2007 8:35:02 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

If people weren’t willing to buy from scalpers, they’d stop in pretty short order. Who wants to spend that kind of money on tickets to have nobody buy them? And it isn’t worth your time to sell them for what you paid.

The people buying scalped tickets are the ones contributing to the problem.


41 posted on 11/28/2007 8:43:55 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
The people buying scalped tickets are the ones contributing to the problem.

The people paying for those tickets are paying what they think is the value of those tickets to them. Nobody is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to pay those prices.

42 posted on 11/28/2007 8:45:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TornadoAlley3

Elected officials are getting involved with Mr Achy Breakies little girl’s performances?

Good lord....there are more important things they should be doing.


43 posted on 11/28/2007 8:47:50 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

OMG!! Hey Dan Gelber.....your little PRINCESSES are learning a HIDEOUS lesson!! You make me sick...a LAW because your little princesses can’t see Hannah Montana?????


44 posted on 11/28/2007 8:48:17 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Tax-chick
Be VERY careful with Twink...
45 posted on 11/28/2007 8:53:04 AM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: hotshu

“I thought it read Bill Targets Hannah Montana.”

Not a chance in hell.


46 posted on 11/28/2007 8:58:51 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Heb 9:27, Rev 22:17,John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hannah Montana Ticket scalping was the focus of several letters to the editor and articles in my local paper as there was a performance here last week.

In every case, mommy or daddy were whining because poor little princess couldn’t go see the show while other, more affluent parents could afford scalper’s prices.


47 posted on 11/28/2007 9:04:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: 444Flyer

I’d hope Billy Ray would bust Bubba’s arse if he so much as leered at his daughter.


48 posted on 11/28/2007 9:06:06 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

>>Gelber’s bill would not bring back the anti-scalping law, but it would make it a crime to use ‘’ticket purchasing software’’ to obtain tickets from a website. The legislation would also require companies that resell tickets to register with the state and post a $50,000 bond. Those who break the law could be fined three times the amount of the scalped ticke<<

What a dumbass.

“Ticket purchasing software?” I wonder how carefully he defines that.

And a $50,000 bond will leave only big brokers.

Not to mention its totally free enterprise.

Now what I would like to see is what Mel Brooks did with the Producers on Broadway - sell the premium tickets for a lot to start with so the money goes to the show not the scalpers.


49 posted on 11/28/2007 9:07:25 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: dfwgator

That’s beside the point. If they willingly pay scalpers the prices they’re asking, they’re contributing to the problem. If there were no buyers, the scalpers would quit.


50 posted on 11/28/2007 9:15:23 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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