Report: China targeting all 'enemy space vehicles' including GPS satellites

World Tribune ^ | Tuesday, November 27, 2007

[am452]

Wow thanks to Bernard Swartz, New School and Bubba for giveing away the store.

Please give it up. Klintoon has been out of office for 8 years. Notice the trade deficit under Bush and how it has grown exponentionally huge? Klintoon gave the bastards the technology and Bush is helping them fund it's development.

[Oatka]

Pre-1941 we were selling scrap iron to the Japs. I think it was the 3rd Ave. elevated that went over just before the war.

After the attack on Manila on Dec. 8, one guy picked up a piece of “shrapnel”. It turned out to be a main bearing from a Ford Model A (he was a mechanic in civilian life). Another one found screws all over the place - the Japs didn’t even bother to melt the stuff down.

We’re a little more advanced in our sellouts now, but it will be the American troops who suffer the result (again).

[MindBender26]

Back in the Cold War days, when it was us and the Rooskies, DOD has war gamed satellite usage.

They always thought that if USSR shot at either Comm or GPS birds, that was a very bad sign of war being imminent.

[james500]

“Please give it up. Klintoon has been out of office for 8 years.”

Considering Team Clinton is running for another 8 years starting in 2009, I’d say his point is quite relevant.

[MrB]

Leftists have the screwed up viewpoint that if we’d just make sure that everyone else didn’t feel threatened by us, they’d leave us alone.

[MrB]

Minor correction - Clinton didn’t “give” them the technology, they bought it fair and square with campaign contributions.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

We should send top admirals over there to show them how to develop and command large carrier groups.

With just a little more help from us, they could have the best navy in the world, and then we could really become good, close friends as equals and partners in the wonderful, peaceful, new world order.

It’s not right that we should have an advantage in carrier groups like we still do. The Chinese are a proud people and great friends of their neighbors, like Tibet.

America is lucky to have such good friends. Our leaders are the best! And I mean both parties. They’ve put their heads together and brought us forward to this peaceful state of mutual admiration and cooperation.

[SwankyC]

Can’t jam a lensatic compass

Yea, but a lensatic compass is worthless sitting on top of a precision guided bomb.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes they do. Look at Russia and China today. Have we in the last fifty years acted as if we wanted to take over their territory?

We could care less about their property, yet look what they both are doing these days. They have no real enemies, and yet are arming to the teeth or making alliances to conduct military action.

[Tallguy]

Have we in the last fifty years acted as if we wanted to take over their territory?

Speaking for the Russians & Chinese, they would say 'yes'. Russia would point toward NATO's eastward expansion into Poland & US activities in the former Central Asian Republics (the Afghanistan takedown was based in some of the former Soviet Republics). China would (of course) point to Taiwan -- which they regard as a renegade province.

It kinda depends on your definition of "your territory". I don't necessarily agree with this, just throwing out the other side.

[Busywhiskers]

So is a GPS if there are no sats.

[DoughtyOne]

Have we in the last fifty years acted as if we wanted to take over their territory?

Speaking for the Russians & Chinese, they would say 'yes'. Russia would point toward NATO's eastward expansion into Poland & US activities in the former Central Asian Republics (the Afghanistan takedown was based in some of the former Soviet Republics).

Russia can make a case for some disapproval of our moves in these areas, but in truth we're not massing a force on it's border to attack.  Surely it has enough capable analysts to know this.

What bothers me as much as anything these days, is that Russia has had a long term problem on it's south Eastern border, is today being occupied in it's eastern quadrant, and should be wise enough to know it's best destiny should include the United States and not China.

China would (of course) point to Taiwan -- which they regard as a renegade province.

China should NEVER be able to destroy the freedom of people it was unable to conquer on it's own for over fifty years.  It has the entire mainland and all it's resources.  It has gobbled up other nations.  It should consider itself fortunate and shut the hell up.  We have no interest in attacking China.  If it acts like a peaceful nation, it's going to be treated like a peaceful nation.

It kinda depends on your definition of "your territory". I don't necessarily agree with this, just throwing out the other side.

Don't think I don't understand and agree with you to a point.  In the case of China, I can see the pride issue as it relates to Taiwan.  I still think it's pushing it's luck on that issue.

I appreciate your response.  You made some valid points.

[charles m]

Yes they do. Look at Russia and China today. Have we in the last fifty years acted as if we wanted to take over their territory? We could care less about their property, yet look what they both are doing these days. They have no real enemies, and yet are arming to the teeth or making alliances to conduct military action.

The Chinese see the West as trying to take away Tibet, Taiwan, South China Sea islands from China.

[Paul Ross]

Personally, I have no doubt that what the Chinese are doing is using the international student exchange program as a way to train their military officers in science and engineering fields. Furthermore, there is no doubt that these guys are also used as collection sources while abroad. But that’s just my personal analysis.

Bingo!

That is precisely how they function here as well.

[charles m]

China should NEVER be able to destroy the freedom of people it was unable to conquer on it's own for over fifty years. It has the entire mainland and all it's resources. It has gobbled up other nations. It should consider itself fortunate and shut the hell up. We have no interest in attacking China. If it acts like a peaceful nation, it's going to be treated like a peaceful nation.

There are 50+ nationalities in China. Tibetans are but one of them. Where's Richard Gere and Hollywood on the other 50 oppressed and conquered nationalities of China?

China should NEVER be able to destroy the freedom of people it was unable to conquer on it's own for over fifty years.

I think they've succeeded in their conquest. What has the Dalai Lama been able to do besides putting bumper stickers on Volvos? Tibet is a lost cause. Someday it might become independent, but it would be too late then anyway. Think of Scotland.

[Paul Ross]

Bump.

Its a fools errand to try and empathize with an insane communist enemy. Buying into their self-justifications just means you are pre-emptively surrendering.

[charles m]

I can see the pride issue as it relates to Taiwan. I still think it's pushing it's luck on that issue.

Ever tried to haggle with a Chinese? Everything is about pushing luck. Win some, lose some, but they're damn going to try.

[DoughtyOne]

The Chinese see the West as trying to take away Tibet, Taiwan, South China Sea islands from China.

I don't disagree. Let's look at them.

Tibet is not China's to own. End of story.
Taiwan is still ruled by the legitimate government of China. The revolution doesn't trump a valid govenment that was never conquered.
The South China Sea Islands are also claimed by Vietnam and the Philipines.

Is it fair to say China does see challenges? Why sure. I'm sure Hitler felt challenged also. "They're not going to let us do what we want..."

China has been given a respected place at the table. They have a massive amount of land and nobody is trying to take away what is legitimately theirs. I would submit that Tibet and Taiwan are indesputibly not theirs.

As for the South China Sea Islands, China has as much claim as anyone I guess. That should be mediated and a settlement reached.

If China wants to be recognized as a world player, and a leader among nations, it's going to have to moderate it's tone. Otherwise, it's right. We are going to kick their door in and smash their eggs.

[DoughtyOne]

China is busy moving it’s people into Tibet, so I do think it’s a mute point, although I don’t approve.

As for the other nations, I suppose I’d look at it more or less like the consolidation of the western U.S. over time. And China did it over a lot more time than we did.

What’s your take on that?

[InterceptPoint]

Dear China:

Let me introduce you to the Boeing Airborne Laser and get you to thinking about the possibility that smaller scale systems like this will be deployed in space to protect our assets and threaten yours.