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Ron Paul on track to be biggest fundraiser (politico)
Politico ^ | 11/30/07 | Jeanne Cummings

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:07:21 AM PST by traviskicks

Ron Paul may not win his party’s primary, but he is on track to capture another big title: Top Republican fundraiser for the final quarter of the money-obsessed 2008 presidential primary.

In the first two months of the quarter that began Oct. 1, Paul already has raised more than $9.75 million, putting him easily within range to best the amount rival Mitt Romney received from donors during the entire third quarter.

The Texas congressman has set a goal of raising $12 million before the fourth quarter’s Dec. 31st deadline, a sum New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani couldn’t achieve in the third quarter when fundraising events still dominated his schedule.

Paul’s chief e-bundler, music promoter Trevor Lyman, hopes to raise $2.5 million by day’s end with the campaign’s second online money bomb.

Of course, Romney can still buy the fourth quarter title by making a multi-million dollar donation to himself, which is widely expected.

And it could be that Paul’s striking, eleventh-hour surge may have come too late to dramatically change the campaign dynamics.

Nevertheless, Paul’s staff is racing to put up more advertisements before the Christmas season shuts down campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, where Paul threatens to peel away libertarian-minded Independent voters sought by now less well-funded rival John McCain.

And Republicans find themselves asking an unexpected question: Could Ron Paul have a real impact on who the party nominates?

Paul’s last stand provides fresh evidence of how the Internet can transform a dark horse candidate and make him harder to knock off.

“It’s highly improbable that he will get into the first tier. But he’s colorful,” says David Gergen, a former White House adviser.

He’s certainly not the Republican Party’s first renegade. Indeed, there is a certain familiarity to the rebellious rank-and-file pushback inside the Paul insurgency.

Think Pat Buchanan circa 1992 and his launch of the “cultural wars” against gays and feminists; and Buchanan again circa 1996 when he upset Bob Dole in New Hampshire with the cry: “All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this over the top."

Think John McCain circa 2000 and his Straight Talk Express and upset victory in New Hampshire over Bush that prompted the first-recorded gusher of online giving.

Given the right candidate or call to action, populist Republicans have a colorful history of shaking off the party yoke and reveling in a wild-and-crazy moment.

That helps explain why a quirky Texas congressman who opposes the Iraq war got into the race in the first place.

Same goes for Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, who had hoped to use immigration as the launching pad for an insurgent campaign.

What makes the Paul phenomenon unique this cycle is that there is no clear front-runner who can simply ride out the rowdy rabble until the party’s top-down instincts silence them.

That is creating an intriguing choice for the 72-year-old doctor: plow ahead on what still seems a quixotic quest for the White House or play spoiler by using his millions to help take out one of the front-runners.

Thus far, Paul is playing it safe, still absorbing what seems to be his dumb luck.

His financial windfalls have come from spontaneous Internet giving or big, online donation days organized by supporters outside his campaign.

Earlier this month, those outsiders orchestrated a one-day $4 million donation dump, now nicknamed a “money bomb.”

Another is scheduled to take place today and a third later this month.

“It’s a tremendous burden put on us and a responsibility,” Paul told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough recently.

“We have all this money now. We didn’t plan to have this much money. Our obligation is to figure out how to spend it. We are doing our best.”

Before the first infusion of cash, Paul had begun a modest $1.1 million television ad drive, mostly in New Hampshire.

Since then, the ad campaign has been expanded in Iowa. Pre-money-bomb, Paul was airing three radio ads; now he has more than ten running.

His television messages are mostly biographical, noting his career as a doctor, his record of never voting for a tax increase, and his opposition to the Iraq war.

The radio ads have a slightly tougher edge, accusing his opponents of supporting amnesty for illegal aliens (a shot at McCain) and flip-flopping on issues (a dart at Romney).

But some Paul supporters grumble that the advertisements lack punch and they are pressuring the campaign to take on an edgier tone.

His first television commercial showed supporters, some sitting around a diner table, talking up his candidacy. “Look, the man’s a doctor; he understand the health care mess,” says one woman.

“OMG! Common Guys! This is a terrible ad! My goodness. The Ron Paul revolution means a lot more than this,” bemoaned one supporter in a blog posting.

“I got nothin’ but love for Ron Paul, but this is pretty bad,” responded another.

As Paul climbed to fourth place in some New Hampshire polls, his rivals have sensed the new threat.

McCain has stepped up his attacks on his less-known rival and more incoming is sure to follow.

And, of course, there are inherent hazards in having money when you haven’t really planned for it.

Howard Dean raised $41 million in 2003 in the first campaign to fully employ the Internet.

By year’s end, his early advertising campaigns and rapidly expanding operation had eaten all but about $9 million of that cash.

Among his expenditures: Stacks of cell phones for Iowa volunteers that wound up stored in an office unused.


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This isn't counting the grassroots money being spent, including on things like 'chipins' and, lol, the ron paul blimp. :)
1 posted on 11/30/2007 9:07:23 AM PST by traviskicks
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
"..he is on track to capture another big title: Top Republican fundraiser for the final quarter of the money-obsessed 2008 presidential primary."



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2 posted on 11/30/2007 9:08:23 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; Irontank; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; ...

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3 posted on 11/30/2007 9:09:08 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Interesting how my leftwing sites are interested in pumping up Paul.....


4 posted on 11/30/2007 9:10:29 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: traviskicks
This may be the best argument against Campaign Finance Reform yet, since all this money isn't helping Paul get past mid-single digits in the polls. Money doesn't necessarily help one shed the "Blame American First", "Gold Standard NOW!" lunatic image he's worked so hard to cultivate, does it?

It is, though, entertaining to see so many lefties give their money to an anti-war libertarian with absolutely no chance of garnering the nomination. That's like preparing for battle by passing all your ammunition to a three-year-old with a cap gun.

5 posted on 11/30/2007 9:11:19 AM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: traviskicks

Senator Lamont and President Forbes both show us that the most important metric is the amount of money a candidate has...


6 posted on 11/30/2007 9:13:31 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Badeye
Interesting how my leftwing sites are interested in pumping up Paul.....

If leftwing sites support someone who wants to abolish the IRS and desolve half the federal government, shred oppressive regulations, save us from socialized medicine, expand gun rights, strenghthen property rights, end abusive lawsuits, eliminate birthright citizenship, repeal the welfare state, end domestic american socialism, eliminate all foreign 'aid', and bring home troops from most of the 130 countries third world basketcases where they are stationed around the world, get the US out of the UN, WTO, etc.. and restore our sovereignty... then more power to them. I didn't think liberalism supported any of the above goals.
7 posted on 11/30/2007 9:17:14 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
“Look, the man’s a doctor; he understand the health care mess,” says one woman.

The campaign reeaaallly need to hire a sloganmaster or something. The billboards are now EVERYWHERE across the Southeast (tons on I-20 through Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi), but they are very drab and not eyecatching. You can tell they have the dollars, but don't really know how to use them.
8 posted on 11/30/2007 9:18:13 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: traviskicks

Thats not why they are doing it, anymore than they were in support of McCain in 2000.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 9:19:26 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Alter Kaker

You miss a key difference. Lamont, Forbes, and Romney spent their own money. Ron Paul’s money nearly all comes from small donors. Most of it was not even raised by his campaign. Paul’s money indicates a much higher level of enthusiasm compared to the other candidates you mention.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 9:20:03 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: bamahead

yea, sometimes I think the grassroots would have been better off keeping their money and spending it on their own... IMO, this will be the future of political campaigns.


11 posted on 11/30/2007 9:20:56 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: bamahead
The campaign reeaaallly need to hire a sloganmaster or something.

Perhaps but the "campaign" had little to do with the signs. They were put up by people on their own initiative. That is the secret of Paul's success thus far.

12 posted on 11/30/2007 9:21:46 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: traviskicks

This nitwit, and his legions of nitwit supporters, are going to go third party. Which is fine. They’re all a bunch of jihadist-boot-lickers who would never vote for a strong-military candidate anyway. If there was no L Ron, they’d all talk themselves into voting for the beast.


13 posted on 11/30/2007 9:23:12 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: traviskicks

Is this a retirement trick? He won’t win his congresssional seat again next year. He has a scam going. The way to go is to convert his funds into Swiss Francs. You have to wonder who is screwing who’s wife here.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 9:24:20 AM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: samtheman

This “nitwit” has been elected to ten terms in a conservative Texas district despite consistent oppostion from GWB and the rest of the party leadership in his home state. You obviously hate him but a “nitwit” could never pull off that feet.


15 posted on 11/30/2007 9:27:09 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: traviskicks

A fool and his money...


16 posted on 11/30/2007 9:27:35 AM PST by papasmurf (Now I lay me down to sleep, and Pray for the RINO's huge defeat.)
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To: Badeye; mvpel

well, as was said on another thread:

“Wouldn’t you prefer that leftists be tricked into voting for someone who respects the Constitution, rather than we Republicans being tricked into voting for a gun-grabbing RINO like Guiliani?”

I think the minority of Paul supporters who are leftists are simply blinded by their opposition to the Iraq war, above all else. Then again, ironically, most conservative opponents of Paul’s may fall into a similar category too...


17 posted on 11/30/2007 9:28:23 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Most ‘conservative opponents’ of Ron Paul understand that contraryism isn’t a valid substitute for creativity.


18 posted on 11/30/2007 9:32:11 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: samtheman
If there was no L Ron, they’d all talk themselves into voting for the beast.

Not a chance I would vote for Hillary ... but you can have fun voting for Rudy in the Generals

19 posted on 11/30/2007 9:34:08 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: traviskicks
Ron Paul for Jerry Lewis’s Labor Day Telethon replacement!
20 posted on 11/30/2007 9:39:27 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: Captain Kirk

You can pull someone’s leg, and you can pull off a feat, but you don’t normally “pull off that feet”.

As far as being re-elected. So was Murtha. They’re both a couple of pork kings and unfortunately pork buys votes.

As far as future re-elections, from what I understand, now that his nitwit pro-jihadist sympathies are out there in the open, he might have trouble the next time he tries getting re-elected from his district.

Maybe he’ll bring Murtha in to assist in his campaign. They’re birds of a feather.


21 posted on 11/30/2007 9:39:59 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: traviskicks; Badeye
If leftwing sites support someone who wants to abolish the IRS and desolve half the federal government, shred oppressive regulations..... then more power to them. I didn't think liberalism supported any of the above goals.

You're right. They don't.

If they can hurt the good Republican candidates in the primaries by pumping a loon, then so be it.

22 posted on 11/30/2007 9:40:30 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Badeye
So you think that support for free markets, liberty, and individual rights across the board is nothing more than "contraryism?"

Apparently, you would you prefer someone like Huck, Hillary, Rudy who each have 1,001 "creative" ways to plan your life.

23 posted on 11/30/2007 9:42:24 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: sam_paine

‘If they can hurt the good Republican candidates in the primaries by pumping a loon, then so be it.’

Exactly.

Watch in the first quarter of next year, and they encourage Ron Paul to run third party...it won’t hurt the GOP, but they aren’t bright enough to figure that part out.


24 posted on 11/30/2007 9:43:12 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Captain Kirk

If his support is so high, why is he not doing better in the national polls?
What is he spending all his money on?
Is the money even real?
Does he get to use what he doesn’t spend on a nice retirement?


25 posted on 11/30/2007 9:44:45 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: sam_paine

The sad thing is that they actually believe Ron Paul can win. Howard Dean actually led the polls before his flameout.


26 posted on 11/30/2007 9:46:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: svcw

If Ron Paul has any guts, which I doubt, he should not file for re-election to his House seat by the January deadline.

We’ll see.


27 posted on 11/30/2007 9:48:12 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: samtheman
"This nitwit, and his legions of nitwit supporters, are going to go third party. Which is fine."

Exactly. McCain shoved Ron Paul's head in a toilet when he said "Your isolationist approach is why Hitler came to power". Thompson is just biding his time patiently. He knows when it's time to say things.

28 posted on 11/30/2007 9:49:05 AM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: BobS
McCain shoved Ron Paul's head in a toilet when he said "Your isolationist approach is why Hitler came to power".
Good imagery. The head is a good place for the heads of Murtha and Paul.
29 posted on 11/30/2007 9:51:07 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Captain Kirk

‘So you think that support for free markets, liberty, and individual rights across the board is nothing more than “contraryism?” ‘

Could you please cut and paste the post where I said this?

(good luck)


30 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:01 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Jokelahoma
since all this money isn't helping Paul get past mid-single digits in the polls.

The polls exclude Paul's name & they are polling the same registered Republicans who voted in 2004, on land-line phones. Many of Paul's supporters are independents and newcomers.

Money doesn't necessarily help one shed the "Blame American First", "Gold Standard NOW!" lunatic image he's worked so hard to cultivate, does it?

Labels unfairly assigned to him by the establishment media and GOP party hacks.

It is, though, entertaining to see so many lefties give their money to an anti-war libertarian with absolutely no chance of garnering the nomination

They can give and give to their heart's content, but they are supporting someone who opposes all of their goals.

31 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:13 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: traviskicks

He may also be on track to another record, most spent on a primary Loser :)


32 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:26 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: traviskicks

Politico is pretty much a DBM outlet from the last few days. Hardly the stellar credibility source.


33 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BobS

Honestly, the time has come for a purge of Ron Paul’s traitorous supporters from this site. They are disruptive and dangerous to the American cause.


34 posted on 11/30/2007 9:54:21 AM PST by furquhart (John S. McCain for President)
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To: furquhart

Ironic how Free Republic was leading the charge against military interventionism in Bosnia under Clinton’s command.


35 posted on 11/30/2007 9:58:20 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Badeye

Interesting how this Paulbot supporter’s hit piece sounds exactly like a Democrat hit piece. Must be because those ‘quaker’ members write the scripts, among other things mentioned on another thread.


36 posted on 11/30/2007 9:59:44 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: samtheman
This nitwit, and his legions of nitwit supporters, are going to go third party.

Sorry but it's just not happening. Paul has stated millions of times that he's not going to run 3rd party, as he learned from his bid in 1988.

Which is fine. They’re all a bunch of jihadist-boot-lickers who would never vote for a strong-military candidate anyway.

Misread the electorate at your own will. Many people are concerned about the war and do not want a long-term commitment in Iraq. Personally, I disagree with Paul on an immediate withdrawal, but we don't need to stay there for generations with permanent bases and such. The war is costing billions of dollars a year. Why do you think the dollar is falling?

If there was no L Ron, they’d all talk themselves into voting for the beast.

Actually, they'd probably just stay home or vote 3rd party like they've always done, and then we can enjoy another election of GOP flacks and their lock-steppers whining about those evil "Losertarians" causing their RINO to lose.

37 posted on 11/30/2007 10:00:20 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush; OrthodoxPresbyterian; fortheDeclaration

odd, I dont picture long hair unemployed maggot types as having alot of extra cabbage to donate.(sarc)


38 posted on 11/30/2007 10:01:47 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Badeye

Correct me if I am wrong. I thought you said that Ron Paul was characterized by contraryism. If not, what were you saying?


39 posted on 11/30/2007 10:03:04 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: BobS
Is this a retirement trick?

No, it's you asking a ridiculous question.

He won’t win his congresssional seat again next year.

Get real. Democrats don't even field candidates against Paul anymore. If they can't beat him, what makes you think another Republican can?

He has a scam going. The way to go is to convert his funds into Swiss Francs. You have to wonder who is screwing who’s wife here.

You're talking about a man who refused to participate in the lucrative Congressional retirement pension and has been married to the same woman for 50 years. Lay off the sauce.

40 posted on 11/30/2007 10:03:53 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I live in Ron Paul’s congressional district. There is no evidence of any support for his presidential campaign here that I can see.

I’ve seen a couple of bumper stickers for him on cars in the Montrose section of town. (Think San Francisco).

He stands no chance of even carrying his district, much less the state of Texas.

So, ask yourself. Why is he running?


41 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:18 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: traviskicks
"“Look, the man’s a doctor; he understand the health care mess,” says one woman."

He's no "Doctor". He hasn't touched a person for 40 years, probably since the obsolete dinosaur medical school training he had. Just because he keeps paying association dues, doesn't mean he's a doctor, nor does it mean he understands health care issues, even his own.

But, Paulbots, desperate to pump up his image any way they can, call him "Dr. Paul". HAHAHAHA! I have to laugh every time I hear that.

42 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:55 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: furquhart

Then your beef is with Jim Rob, who has not carried out your lovely “purge,” not with “Paul’s “traitorous supporters.” The Paulists merely advocate the same views that characterized freepers when they opposed Clinton’s war in Kosovo.


43 posted on 11/30/2007 10:05:23 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: traviskicks

Question to All:
Is Ron Paul accepting donations in the form of US Treasury Notes or in Gold and other hard currency? I really hope he isn’t fueling the great Federal Reserve Hoax or Credit Hoax by participating, I would hope his supporters would be giving him donations in the form of Gold, Pelts or Beads...

Flame away, but you KNOW I am right!!! Go Fred!


44 posted on 11/30/2007 10:05:27 AM PST by RadioCirca1970 (ISLAM and its Adherents ARE the enemy)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yep.


45 posted on 11/30/2007 10:05:44 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Captain Kirk

I’ll put it another way.

Ron Paul uses contrarism as others use creativity.

Bottom line is he votes against things, then when questioned about it cites ‘its not in the Constitution’ as if thats a viable explanation.

Its not, its a dodge.

Especially if you’ve glanced at the Constitution, and noted there is no mention of shrimp subsidies....


46 posted on 11/30/2007 10:07:58 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: traviskicks

Soros and his Dim buddies love TehRon.


47 posted on 11/30/2007 10:08:40 AM PST by End Times Crusader (!!!!!!!!!ELECT RON PAUL AS PRESIDENT OR THE WORLD WILL END!!!!!!!!!)
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To: furquhart
Honestly, the time has come for a purge of Ron Paul’s traitorous supporters from this site. They are disruptive and dangerous to the American cause.

DIAF... Have you noticed that most of the RP supporters on this site have been FReepers MUCH longer than you...

I could almost understand your sentiment if it was a bunch of Trolling Newbs... but we are not...

many of us still truly believe in the concept of a Free Republic...

not the Socialist Conservative Nanny State of which you appear to desire...

I am so very sorry that you are so fearful of the Ideas of Freedom and Personal Responsibility the we espouse that you must resort to name calling and whining for a purge...

48 posted on 11/30/2007 10:10:40 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: Badeye

Is that the best you can do on his voting record? Just keep hammering on shrimp?


49 posted on 11/30/2007 10:11:10 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: svcw
If his support is so high, why is he not doing better in the national polls?

The polls are excluding Paul's name & they are polling the same small pool of registered Republicans who voted in 2004. Go to the website thecaseforronpaul.com that completely demolishes the polls and other BS about Paul.

What is he spending all his money on?

Basically, nothing. He doesn't need to spend money, except on traditional print and TV ads. All of his support is generated from the grassroots who spend their OWN money and their OWN time supporting Paul. Such support is worth millions, that other campaigns would die for.

Is the money even real?

With the way the dollar is free-falling...

Does he get to use what he doesn’t spend on a nice retirement?

He has his military pension and money from investments from his Congressional salary. He has a nice retirement setup, and even if he does use the campaign money for himself, who cares? The money is HIS, it was freely given to him.

50 posted on 11/30/2007 10:11:32 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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