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Amtrak Passenger Train and Freight Train Collide in Chicago
CNN ^ | 11/30/2007 | n/a

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:02:58 AM PST by Pyro7480

Breaking news: Amtrak passenger train and a freight train collide on Chicago's South Side.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: amtrak; amwreck; chicago; rail; wreck
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Breaking on CNN, MSNBC right now.
1 posted on 11/30/2007 10:02:59 AM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
From CBS2 Chicago:

Two trains crashed on the city's South Side late Friday morning, leaving an Amtrak locomotive lying on top of a freight car. The Amtrak cars did not derail, but the locomotive of the Amtrak train was severely damaged at 48th Street and Shields Avenue. Information about injuries and other details were not immediately available.

2 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:46 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

Oh no! Prayers for all involved, possible victims and rescue teams!


3 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:59 AM PST by samiam1972 (I'm a mommy of 4 now!!)
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To: Pyro7480

praying it’s not as bad as it sounds


4 posted on 11/30/2007 10:08:28 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: Pyro7480

Bush’s fault for underfunding train safety apparatus.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 10:08:46 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Pyro7480

I hope that the results are as positive as this terrific movie. Always had a crush on Jill Clayburg.

6 posted on 11/30/2007 10:09:26 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Pyro7480
"Well the South Side of Chicago
is the baddest part of town.
And if you go down there
you better just beware
of the 11:32."
7 posted on 11/30/2007 10:11:28 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Pyro7480; All

update:

http://cbs2chicago.com/breakingnewsalerts/freight.train.amtrak.2.599603.html

Serious injuries are reported in a crash on the city’s South Side involving an Amtrak train and a freight train.

The Amtrak trail struck the rear of the parked freight train around 11:32 a.m. at 48th Street and Shields Avenue, Fire Department spokeswoman Eve Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez said there are about 150 passengers on board and confirmed a report that a conductor is pinned inside.


8 posted on 11/30/2007 10:11:49 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: Pyro7480

They are freeing passengers now.100 wounded,5 serious.MSNBC


9 posted on 11/30/2007 10:14:05 AM PST by fatima
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To: Pyro7480

Prayers for the folks’ safety.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 10:15:06 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: RDTF

Conductor has been freed as of 5 minutes ago.MSNBC


11 posted on 11/30/2007 10:15:25 AM PST by fatima
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To: RDTF

Not to make light of any injuries but I did work with a railroad once.

Trust me there will be more injured people than the number of passengers on both trains.

Some were still sleeping when this was announced and as I type they are frantically trying to get to the crash sight and stake their injury claim.

I know what I speak of.


12 posted on 11/30/2007 10:15:48 AM PST by Chuck54
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To: Pyro7480

Too early, or has anyone reported a cause for this horrible event?


13 posted on 11/30/2007 10:19:38 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Chuck54

They’ll get there faster than the ambulances with trial attorneys in the driver’s seat.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 10:21:03 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: Chuck54

should be easy enough to prove if someone was on a train or not


15 posted on 11/30/2007 10:21:59 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: All
I read mechanical or operator error.
16 posted on 11/30/2007 10:22:11 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Pyro7480

go to maps at google and type in Shields Ave. Chicago IL.
When you get to the map find 47th st.; big railroad
switching area west of I-90/I-94 (the Dan Ryan)


17 posted on 11/30/2007 10:23:30 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

oops 48th


18 posted on 11/30/2007 10:24:05 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Pyro7480

Okay, I am spooked. I had a very vivid dream last night about a train crash...so vivid I had trouble getting back to sleep!


19 posted on 11/30/2007 10:24:54 AM PST by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: fatima

they keep updating the CBS link:

Around noon, rescue crews were carrying out a person who was likely the conductor that was pinned in, Kris Habermehl reported from Chopper 2.

“So far nobody is being taken on stretcher. That’s a good sign,” Langford said. “It looks like everybody is walking.”

The engine of the Amtrak train was resting on top of the last car of the freight train. The Amtrak had three double-decker passenger cars, Langford said.

Firefighters carried several children from the accident.


20 posted on 11/30/2007 10:25:11 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Bush’s fault for underfunding train safety apparatus.

Billions for the Iraq war but nothing for choo choos.

21 posted on 11/30/2007 10:27:07 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: RDTF

Sure that would be easy enough. What you will not be able to prove is was the “injured” just standing close and “hurt” themselves getting away from the colliding trains.


22 posted on 11/30/2007 10:28:23 AM PST by Chuck54
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To: Young Werther

That movie gave us a chuckle when it was released. It began with the train leaving Toronto and ended with it arriving in Toronto going the same direction- until then we never realized that there were rail lines that circumnavigated the globe.


23 posted on 11/30/2007 10:29:18 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: RDTF
should be easy enough to prove if someone was on a train or not

Not necessarily if it's a commuter train, where tickets can be purchased with cash from simple automated kiosks...you don't even have to talk to a human.

Hoping that all the injuries are not serious....
24 posted on 11/30/2007 10:29:38 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: RDTF

:)Sounds good.


25 posted on 11/30/2007 10:30:20 AM PST by fatima
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To: RDTF

That means it’s probably the ST. Louis Run

Lincoln Service?


26 posted on 11/30/2007 10:32:07 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: tcrlaf

The Amtrak train, No. 371 from Grand Rapids, Mich


27 posted on 11/30/2007 10:36:26 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: tcrlaf
If that's true,It must be headed south.

The last time I took that train north to chi Town,I think we were in town way before 11:30

28 posted on 11/30/2007 10:37:45 AM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Aaron0617
Brings up a similuar accident in the same area about two years ago. Just posting incase this sound familiar to anyone else.
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NOTE FROM 2005 - Two Dead, Dozens Injured, Some Critically, In South Side Accident

(AP) A commuter train derailed Saturday on Chicago's South Side, killing at least two people and injuring more than 80, some of them critically.

The double-decker Metra train was traveling from Joliet to Chicago when the locomotive and its five cars jumped the tracks about 5 miles south of downtown, authorities said.

Fatal Train Derailment In Chicago

29 posted on 11/30/2007 10:39:19 AM PST by Aaron0617
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To: Aaron0617

An important task is keeping the boys in da ‘hood from robbing the dead and dying....


30 posted on 11/30/2007 10:43:58 AM PST by tracer
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To: Aaron0617
One positive note is the proximity of the accident to the University of Chicago and other top-notch trauma centers.

The air likely is full of medevac choppers at this time....

31 posted on 11/30/2007 10:46:05 AM PST by tracer
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To: tracer

And the lawyers no doubt have descended on the scene, the receiving hospitals, and the neighboring bars, pool halls, and street corners....


32 posted on 11/30/2007 10:48:08 AM PST by tracer
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To: Aaron0617
Then there is the below article. As you can tell we're having problems with our train services here on the south side of chicago. Prayers to those injured in today's accident.
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NOTE FROM SEPT 2007: 12 Railroad Spikes Found Missing On South Side's Electric Line


CHICAGO (CBS) ― The FBI believes a case of sabatoge that could have caused a train derailment was averted by alert Metra workers, who discovered a dozen railroad spikes missing in an area on the city's South Side.
The spikes hold down metal plates that bind the rails to wooden ties.

FBI: Metra Tracks Were 'Sabotaged'

33 posted on 11/30/2007 10:50:45 AM PST by Aaron0617
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To: tracer
I'll bet John Edwards is at the scene passing out his campaign brochures and his law firm's business cards.

Leni

34 posted on 11/30/2007 10:51:42 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: MinuteGal

Actually, he’s probably at AmTrak headquarters already and is shaking down the board of directors...


35 posted on 11/30/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by tracer
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To: tracer

UPDATE:

The train collided with a freight train traveling on the same track, Chicago Fire Department spokesman Larry Langford said.

About 100 of the 150 passengers were “walking wounded,” he said, injured when the train came to a sudden stop. Medical personnel was examining them.

The Amtrak No. 371 train was coming from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Video showed the Amtrak train on top of one of the freight train’s cars.
mtrak spokesman Cliff Black said Amtrak did not yet know the severity of the accident. Amtrak officials from Midwest Operations were en route to the scene.

Black said the train is known as “The Pere Marquette” and is a daily train that travels from Grand Rapids to Chicago.


36 posted on 11/30/2007 11:20:43 AM PST by Palladin ("How do we beat The Bitch?"--John McCain Supporter)
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To: Pyro7480

Why do they use the same tracks?


37 posted on 11/30/2007 11:22:34 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Aaron0617; MinuteGal

Geeze, sabotage found on S. Side tracks a couple of months back....wonder if that was the case here, or if that info would be released if it were the case.

My husband rode the commuter trains for 18 years. The afternoon commutes on all lines may be disrupted some, obviously the south line substantially.

Prayers for the victims.


38 posted on 11/30/2007 11:31:40 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: RockinRight

Obviously they weren’t supposed to. They were traveling through a freight yard so speed should have been at slow yard limit unless they were on a faster bypass track. So the cause is one of four reasons — the engineer was speeding and could not stop in time, he ran a red signal, a signal malfunctioned, or the dispatcher routed him to a track already occupied. We will know soon enough as the modern engines have data recorders.


39 posted on 11/30/2007 11:34:20 AM PST by CedarDave (The only access Hillarycare will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: CedarDave

I went to CNN and found this

Hostages held at Clinton ‘08 office in New Hampshire


40 posted on 11/30/2007 11:36:46 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: RockinRight
Why do they use the same tracks?

The commuter trains and freight trains use the same tracks all the time around here. It's very profitable for the railroads. If they had to build separate tracks, we'd all drive because they'd never get built.

41 posted on 11/30/2007 11:44:13 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Nea Wood

“Okay, I am spooked. I had a very vivid dream last night about a train crash...so vivid I had trouble getting back to sleep!”

Relax.....it’s ok. But please let us know when you dream of a cometary impact.


42 posted on 11/30/2007 11:50:33 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: bamahead
Not necessarily if it's a commuter train, where tickets can be purchased with cash from simple automated kiosks...you don't even have to talk to a human.

Not in Chicago, you cannot.

43 posted on 11/30/2007 12:39:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: RockinRight

Amtrak and freight trains share tracks. Amtrak actually owns only a pittance of track, mostly in the northeast and some in various other areas (e.g., most of the track Amtrak uses in lower Michigan is owned by them).


44 posted on 11/30/2007 1:00:13 PM PST by mjwise
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To: Pyro7480

Sorry, but this story isn’t important.

Now the hostage siege at Hillary’s campaign HQ in NH IS important enough to be covered wall to wall on FNC.

/sarc


45 posted on 11/30/2007 5:16:03 PM PST by Humidston (Whatever happened to the "Melting Pot?")
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To: Pyro7480

oh no I have 2 brother n laws who work for amtrak that go that route


46 posted on 11/30/2007 5:39:29 PM PST by angelcindy (Where's the Fence?????)
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To: Humidston
"Now the hostage siege at Hillary’s campaign HQ in NH IS important enough to be covered wall to wall on FNC."

Why? Wasn't that just Bill looking for attention?

47 posted on 11/30/2007 5:58:44 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Squawk 8888
That movie gave us a chuckle when it was released. It began with the train leaving Toronto and ended with it arriving in Toronto going the same direction- until then we never realized that there were rail lines that circumnavigated the globe.

I can't tell you where they shot the movie, but the story line was that the trip started in Los Angeles and ended up in Chicago. Watch it again.

48 posted on 11/30/2007 8:23:49 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: RockinRight
Why do they use the same tracks??? Geez Right my friend, you must not live near the tracks.

The US is short rail tracks like you wouldn’t believe.

49 posted on 11/30/2007 8:25:50 PM PST by Professional
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To: Young Werther

That was SUCH a good movie.


50 posted on 11/30/2007 8:26:47 PM PST by Professional
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