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Plate number spurs state to cut out HA8
Macon.com ^ | 11/30/07 | Travis Fain

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:48:14 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

It was an odd question to hear from a mechanic.

"You're a Jew hater?"

Uh, no, Frank Gumina replied. So the mechanic called Gumina around to the back of his car, a 1974 Volkswagen Thing.

The license plate read: HA8 JWZ.

"And I still stared at it," Gumina said. "I guess I don't pay attention to the letters and stuff."

Others sure did. And they read it: "Hate Jews."

Gumina, who lives on Lake Wildwood, said he'd gotten a few odd looks before the mechanic sounded things out for him. He'd even had a stranger or two at the grocery store ask him, "You're a Jew hater?"

"People say weird things," Gumina said. "So I didn't really know what they were saying."

But when he figured it out, Gumina did what any good Protestant would. He called the Bibb County tag office, and he called his preacher. His preacher called Rabbi Larry Schlesinger, the rabbi at Temple Beth Israel and a Macon city councilman-elect.

"Tell you the truth, I didn't know what to think," Schlesinger said.

So he called the Anti-Defamation League in Atlanta, a group that works against anti-Semitism and bigotry. A league spokesman called the Georgia Department of Revenue, which handles license plates. Long story short, according to the department: It was all just a coincidence. Gumina's getting a new plate, and the one he has will be taken out of circulation.

What's more, the state will stop issuing prestige plates - also called vanity or personalized plates - that start with HA8 or H8, revenue department spokesman Charles Willey said.

"Hate has become a very popular prefix to a vanity plate," ADL spokesman Bill Nigut said. "I just don't think there's room for that in our civil discourse."

Just to be clear, though: Gumina did not request his HA8 plate. Everyone agrees on that. He simply asked for an antique - or Hobby Automobile - plate, which is different from a vanity plate.

The Hobby Automobile plates all start with HA, and the rest was just a series of numbers and letters that spelled out something unintended, Willey said.

"I think it'd be far-fetched" to think someone did it on purpose," Willey said. "They make so many at a time."

About 1.2 million a year, according to the state Department of Corrections. License plates are made by prisoners at the state facility in Telfair County, department spokesman Paul Czachowski said. Prisoners are given a list of number and letter sequences from the Department of Revenue. They arrange number and letter molds in the right order and press the plate.

It's similar to old-time movable-type printing presses, he said.

Said Schlesinger, "Let's give them the benefit of the doubt."

Gumina said it doesn't really bother him that he was driving around with the plate, though the irony that it was on a Volkswagen Thing - basically an old German Jeep - isn't lost on him. Now he drives the vehicle a lot less, pretty much just at night and near home.

"I don't hate Jews," Gumina said. "I don't want anybody else to have (the plate), but to me, it's just a bunch of letters."

"Hate's a terrible word," he said. "That's right up there with can't."

To contact writer Travis Fain, call 744-4213.


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I can see why the state might want to dump this one plate but of course they've gone overboard and carried it to extremes.
1 posted on 11/30/2007 12:48:16 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

LOL. Eric Cartman’s car, I suppose.


2 posted on 11/30/2007 12:49:31 PM PST by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: cdbull23

Oh Geez...


3 posted on 11/30/2007 12:52:11 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Hate's a terrible word," he said. "That's right up there with can't."

Oh brother.

Sorry, Dude. Neither can hold a candle to "progressive" or "liberal" in the terrible word category.
4 posted on 11/30/2007 12:52:22 PM PST by chrisser (Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference between “conservation” and the neutron bomb.”- Mark Steyn)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I read it as Hate Jaws. No need to be a shark-hater, either.
5 posted on 11/30/2007 12:52:23 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
“...1974 Volkswagen Thing”

Hey - isn’t that the (ugly) one designed to look like those old Nazi command vehicles? Coincidence - - - - or not??.

6 posted on 11/30/2007 12:53:06 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory. ------ www.gohunter08.com ------)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

There’s an easy solution. Just swap the Georgia plates with Cynthia McKinney.


7 posted on 11/30/2007 12:54:46 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Scary thought: Half of all people are dumber than the average person.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I would love to see what the odds were that this particular combination of letters and numbers would, by pure chance, wind up on a German made auto.

Amazing. Fact is stranger than fiction.

8 posted on 11/30/2007 12:54:53 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: FoxInSocks
I read it as "Hate Jaws." No need to be a shark-hater, either.

It's also offensive to former Eagles quarterbacks.

9 posted on 11/30/2007 12:57:10 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Scary thought: Half of all people are dumber than the average person.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; SJackson; MNJohnnie; ejonesie22

Maybe he can sell it to a Ron Paul supporter?


10 posted on 11/30/2007 12:58:51 PM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Oh for Pete’s sake.

What if you wanted H8MNDYS or H8 BRCCLI?

These people have way too much time on their hands.


11 posted on 11/30/2007 12:59:39 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: Pablo64

Since the first two letters aren’t random there are 6 characters. Pulling this combination out of a pool of 36 characters is 1,679,616 to 1. Don’t know the numbers of german vehicles there but I can imagine the odds stay within the reasonable range. Much better than winning the lottery.


12 posted on 11/30/2007 1:01:09 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well, we sure wouldn’t want to offend broccoli farmers.


13 posted on 11/30/2007 1:01:24 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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“There’s an easy solution. Just swap the Georgia plates with Cynthia McKinney.”

HA!!

HA8 EV1 works for the cop-slapper too.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 1:01:43 PM PST by Sir Hailstone (Target Acquired: Indiana's 7th Congressional District)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Hate has become a very popular prefix to a vanity plate," ADL spokesman Bill Nigut said. "I just don't think there's room for that in our civil discourse."

Oh? Another word has become uncivil? One just can't HA8 cats, dogs, libs, commies, discrimination, bigotry, etc. That would be so HA8ful. Why, in polite society, you can't go around HA8ing poverty, taxes, or tyranny. There is just no room for discourse on the vile concept of HA8.

15 posted on 11/30/2007 1:01:51 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: chrisser

Come on, chrisser, let’s hold hands and sing, LOL. How about a hug?


16 posted on 11/30/2007 1:02:55 PM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
""Hate has become a very popular prefix to a vanity plate," ADL spokesman Bill Nigut said. "I just don't think there's room for that in our civil discourse."

Sorry Mr. Nigut, there is no mention in the Constitution of 'civil discourse' and no limitation to such in the 1st amendment. That's a moral term, and I'm afraid a violation of separation of church and state.

Next.

17 posted on 11/30/2007 1:04:31 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

HA8 HA8


18 posted on 11/30/2007 1:04:31 PM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: geopyg
Hey - isn’t that the (ugly) one designed to look like those old Nazi command vehicles? Coincidence - - - - or not??.

That is a funny coincidence. The VW Kurierwagen (Thing) was based on the Kubelwagen, which was the German military car in WWII. The story went that VW wanted to make a rough terrain vehicle, and instead of developing something new from scratch they simply dusted off the old WW2 stamps and modified them to fit on a then-modern Beetle floorplan. They aren't just similar to the WW2 military vehicle, they are based directly on them.

Fun cars though. My brother owned one for years and drove it until it literally rusted apart.
19 posted on 11/30/2007 1:05:00 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’ll bet it would be OK if it said H8 BUSH or H8 GOP.

Can I get a plate that starts with IH8? Or from this day forward are the letters H and 8 never allowed to stand in the same zip code?

Thank God the thought police will save us from ourselves.


20 posted on 11/30/2007 1:05:28 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Republicans for Obama!!! Landslide GOP win in 2008!)
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