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Her nose piercing leads to job loss, hurt feelings (Tax Collector)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 11-30-2007 | JAMAL THALJI

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:11:06 PM PST by Cagey

Tax Collector Mike Olson says the office worker was told not to do it.

LAND O'LAKES - Lauren Mixon said she wanted to sparkle - but just a little bit.

She wanted to get her nose pierced with a tiny diamond. She checked the dress code at work.

It discouraged "extreme" jewelry.

She checked with her supervisor. The answer, Mixon said: "It wouldn't be in my best interests."

Now some may interpret that one way. Mixon's own interpretation: no one ever said "no."

So she had her nose pierced. It hurt like heck for three days.

Now it really hurts.

Mixon is now out of a job over a tiny piece of metal that has suddenly become a big deal.

Her old employer said he feels bad. But he also said the rules don't allow it, her supervisor told her not to do it and that Mixon wasn't fired - she quit.

Pasco County Tax Collector Mike Olson said having the public served by someone with a nose piercing is not his idea of public service.

"We are a professional organization," Olson said. "If you choose to have that, work somewhere else."

* * *

For two years, Mixon worked the counter at the Land O'Lakes office, helping people pay their property taxes, renew their vehicle tags or get their hunting licenses. She got good reviews there.

"It's a good place to work," the 22-year-old said. "It really is."

She got pierced the night before Thanksgiving. A nose stud isn't extreme, she thought, and it was just $10.

Mixon hoped she could start with a clear plastic piercing that wouldn't be too noticeable. But the tattoo shop told her she had to start with a small sterling silver stud for four to eight weeks, to prevent infection.

Come Monday, she told her manager - the same manager who discouraged her the month before.

"She said 'You were told not to do it,' " Mixon said, "and I said 'No, I was told it wasn't in my best interests.' "

* * *

The next day, Tuesday, was Mixon's last.

She met with her manager and a human resources official. They spelled out the rules: the stud had to go.

Frustrated, Mixon said she would find someone to take out the stud, then come back Wednesday with her two weeks notice.

"With all of this going on and with the way I was treated," she said, "I didn't want to be here anymore."

She left the office with her husband Steven but returned with a new determination: "I got to thinking this isn't fair. I didn't do anything wrong."

She offered to put in a clear, plastic stud right away, or disguise it with a band-aid. And she said this:

"I'm not quitting and I'm not taking it out."

Too late. She was handed a letter accepting her "verbal resignation." She was excused from the office her last two weeks, and would be paid through Dec. 11.

Mixon said Thursday she only wants one thing:

"I just want my job back," she said.

But Olson said it's best for both of them if they go their separate ways.

* * *

Mike Olson knows a thing or two about dress codes, about professional workplaces.

"There's one thing about office policy every employer and employee knows," he said. "When you have something like a dress code, if you don't maintain it, then everybody gets upset."

The former county commissioner is 62 now. He's spent his entire adult life in one office or another.

He was 18 when he got his first office job in 1963.

When he was 19, they laid down the law on him: no sport jackets, no blazers.

Management was to wear suits only.


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Lauren Mixon, 22, didn't think the tiny stud was "extreme jewelry" that is discouraged in the Tax Collector's Office, where she had worked two years.

1 posted on 11/30/2007 1:11:08 PM PST by Cagey
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To: Cagey

GUILTY?


2 posted on 11/30/2007 1:13:40 PM PST by jdm
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To: Cagey
There's too much he said she said going on here. If they didn't tell her it was strictly against the rules and she was fired for it, then that's a problem. If they actually did say it was against the rules and they fired her, that's not a problem. Neither side here is trustworthy enough, IMO, to take their word for it.
3 posted on 11/30/2007 1:14:02 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Cagey

Another dumb liberal youth gets slapped in the face with reality.


4 posted on 11/30/2007 1:14:19 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Cagey

I have not a lot of sympathy for this one.

“Not in your best interest” is pretty obvious how the company feels about it! She just didn’t give a crap.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 1:14:55 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Cagey
"I just want my job back," she said.

No dear. You want your job back on your terms, which are to make the dress code whatever you want it to be.

6 posted on 11/30/2007 1:15:50 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Cagey

It is just beyond me how any female thinks putting a bolt or ring in her nose will be an aesthetic improvement. Tacky, ugly, unsanitary, nasty. I just don’t get it.


7 posted on 11/30/2007 1:17:24 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: Cagey
"It wouldn't be in my best interests."

Translation: "You have money for drilling holes in your body, maybe you're overpaid."

For the best story you've read today, read this short anecdote of when I asked my father if I could have an earring:

http://www.ubersite.com/m/53146

8 posted on 11/30/2007 1:17:39 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Cagey

Instead of a stupid nose piercing she should be saving her money for braces.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 1:18:05 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Cagey

-she should be saving her $ to get her teeth fixed.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 1:18:10 PM PST by tioga (Dear Santa..........I can explain....)
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To: Cagey
"No, I was told it wasn't in my best interests."

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11 posted on 11/30/2007 1:18:26 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Cagey

By my standards, which are very conservative in regard to facial jewelry, that’s not extreme.


12 posted on 11/30/2007 1:18:32 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Cagey

How about, HOw did she do her job?
Hell,
I can be a flaming queen, dress in drag or as a pregnant nun in San Frisco and go to work for the city and still do a lousy job and not get fired,
What the hell is so wrong with this stupid nose stud?
Again how did she do her job? Was she there on time and preform her prescribed duties well?
If not ok then fire her ass. If her only blemish is a stupid hole in her nose and you fire her then look out for a real good big lawsuit.
You og girl, and I think these studs are stupid.


13 posted on 11/30/2007 1:19:23 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Cagey

You are an idiot, Mixon!


14 posted on 11/30/2007 1:19:41 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: SampleMan

Next she’ll want to wear a thong jutting out from the back of her pants.


15 posted on 11/30/2007 1:19:45 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: jdm

Employers don’t want to hire kids attempting to attract personal attention to themselves. They want employees who work hard and make the business look good. Professional appearance impacts customer impressions.


16 posted on 11/30/2007 1:20:05 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Cagey

Guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and she sprays snot out the side of her nose now...............


17 posted on 11/30/2007 1:20:09 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Cagey
What about a tiny little cute tattoo on the neck or face?

What about a little lip ring?

If I take a pretty girl and use her as the poster child, does this change the fact that she violated policy? Usually such policy is in writing somewhere (which she signed) as well. Furthermore she was warned! Not only is she fired, I wouldn’t hire her either.

18 posted on 11/30/2007 1:20:50 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: inkling

I have installed hundreds of tags, noe rings, etc in livestock for the last 40 years. I don’t see the transition of said practice to humans as attractive. Nose rings served a purpose when pigs were run outside.


19 posted on 11/30/2007 1:22:12 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Cagey

It is simple for me. Don’t wear the stud at work if your employer doesn’t like it. If you want to do whatever you want start a small business and be your own boss. She sounds like a narcissist. That said I’ve never found nose piercings or lip piercings the least bit attractive, no more than the warts some call beauty spots. Still they can do what they want on their own time. I’d hope the judge throws this case out. It is a horrible waste of tax payers money to spend even a hearing on this silliness.


20 posted on 11/30/2007 1:22:36 PM PST by Maelstorm (Stupidty disguised as feelings is not an excuse for bad behavior.)
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To: Cagey

Gee, wonder which party she likes best.


21 posted on 11/30/2007 1:22:46 PM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: SampleMan
Hahahahaha! I’m howling at that. And, I book-marked it for future use.
22 posted on 11/30/2007 1:23:11 PM PST by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: domenad

God bless your Dad and good luck to you with your little ones when they come to you.


23 posted on 11/30/2007 1:23:24 PM PST by incredulous joe (" Youth is easily deceived because it is quick to hope.")
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To: Cagey

she should’ve saved the piercing money for her crooked teeth.


24 posted on 11/30/2007 1:23:43 PM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: Cagey
"I got to thinking this isn't fair. I didn't do anything wrong."

No honey...ya didn't.

You did something stupid and ill-advised and have paid the price for your lack of vision.

25 posted on 11/30/2007 1:23:47 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I am Spartacus! ................Oh hell...who am I kidding? I'm Peter Griffin.)
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To: Cagey

If I see a clerk with something poked through his/her nose or other weird place I move to a different checkout line — even if it’s a longer line. I have a pretty high gag threshhold, but for some reason I can’t handle that.

I used to work for a major resort where “big money”, “old money”, and royalty stay. Dress code was strict. Permitted jewelry was made clear to employees. No more than 1 ring on a hand (wedding set counted as 1 ring). Earrings: No more than 1 per ear, no dangling, nothing bigger than size of a nickel. Bracelet: No more than one. Necklaces: No more than one. Nose ring? Don’t even think about it! The reason was that classy people, especially “old money” and royalty consider anything more to be tacky. Employees who didn’t like it would no longer have a job.


26 posted on 11/30/2007 1:24:20 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: domenad; SampleMan

I meant post #22 for Domenad.


27 posted on 11/30/2007 1:25:41 PM PST by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: inkling
It is just beyond me how any female thinks putting a bolt or ring in her nose will be an aesthetic improvement.

I call them crystalline boogers. The diamond or zircon ones anyway.

28 posted on 11/30/2007 1:26:37 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I am Spartacus! ................Oh hell...who am I kidding? I'm Peter Griffin.)
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To: Xenalyte
Thank you. I was beginning to think "FReeper" had become synonymous with "luddite."

The kid looks fine. Frankly, her employer and these posters remind me of the jackass I knew who ripped the extra earring out of his wife's ear when multiple piercings became fashionable back in the eighties.

Bunch of friggin atavistic proto-muslims.

29 posted on 11/30/2007 1:26:41 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Cagey
I remember buying some groceries in the early 90s where the bag girl had just gotten some "facial jewelry." As my produce piled up right under her face, she dangled her pierced tongue and slowly flopped the stud up and down because "it felt funny."

I have never washed lettuce so thoroughly in my life.

30 posted on 11/30/2007 1:26:45 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: Cagey

What is “Extreme” in her view?

Lip?
Eyebrow?

crotch and navel piercings are undercover and unknown to the employer (unless you file for medical claims for infection of such piercings).


31 posted on 11/30/2007 1:28:00 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Cagey

STUPID....STUPID people do this....too stupid to work.


32 posted on 11/30/2007 1:28:24 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cagey

The other day I noticed two male tellers at my bank wearing big, flashy “diamond” earrings in both ears. Call me old fashioned but I found it totally inappropriate.


33 posted on 11/30/2007 1:28:43 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Joe Boucher

It starts with a little nose stud, then it moves to an eyebrow ring, and then a lip ring and the next thing you know, you have a circus freak working the counter. Give an inch and the next thing you know she’s looking like Marilyn Manson


34 posted on 11/30/2007 1:29:32 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Cagey
"She said 'You were told not to do it,' " Mixon said, "and I said 'No, I was told it wasn't in my best interests.' "

It's not even the point whether she was told not to. The fact is, she decided to get a nose ring, and her employer decided he didn't want to employ someone with a nose ring.

35 posted on 11/30/2007 1:29:38 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: domenad
For the best story you've read today, read this short anecdote of when I asked my father if I could have an earring:

http://www.ubersite.com/m/53146


Thanks for the link to your story. I liked it for two reasons. One, we named our cat Dominic, and our dog Bella (I am not kidding). And two, when my daughters (ages three and six) ask about men with earrings, I suggest that they might have been pirates or in the merchant marine. I also told them that only baseball catchers, auto mechanics, and Oscar Madison should wear their caps backwards.

P.S. True "earring" story from my wife. A boy she went to school with asked his dad if he could get an earring. The dad said he would rip it out if the boy did. He came home with an earring on, and the ol' man grabbed it and tore it off. the boy was no fool, he did a test run with a magnetic earring. The dad was no fool, either, as the boy didn't dare put one of those things in his head.
36 posted on 11/30/2007 1:29:55 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Joe Boucher

In France you don’t even have to do your job, just show up 30 hours a week...


37 posted on 11/30/2007 1:30:12 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Are you emperor Palpatine? “Only now at the end do you understand....”


38 posted on 11/30/2007 1:30:22 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Maelstorm

Uh....warts are not ADDED....nose rings and lip rings are. You DO know the diff.....right?


39 posted on 11/30/2007 1:31:16 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
I worked for a company that had been open for about 25 years. About 1,000 employees in one location. Never a dress code - just be sensible. And for all that time, there really weren't any issues.

One day a pretty blonde young thang with a room temp IQ wore in a shirt that said in big, bold letters across her chest

Wine me

Dine me

69 me

A month later, we had about a 20 page dress code for everyone to live with, forevermore.

40 posted on 11/30/2007 1:31:38 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: papertyger

One of my high-school buddies was ill-advisedly wearing hoop earrings when tree-climbing (yeah, we were tomboys) and ripped her earlobe in half under the piercing when the hoop got caught.

But to have your HUSBAND do it? OMG!


41 posted on 11/30/2007 1:32:24 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Amen....people with CLASS don’t do this kind of thing.


42 posted on 11/30/2007 1:32:46 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Eddie Murphy used to have a standup routine where he gave a tip on how to save your gold necklace from muggers. Just string it over your ears and let the little dangling thing hang from your nose and act like you don’t know that they see your “booger”.

These nose piercings always remind me of that even if they are in the wrong spot.


43 posted on 11/30/2007 1:32:48 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: papertyger

uh, oh....you must have some ugly piercings.


44 posted on 11/30/2007 1:33:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: domenad
Are you emperor Palpatine?

Yer good. Not many people get the allusion when I use it.

The Force is strong with you young Jedi.

45 posted on 11/30/2007 1:34:16 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I am Spartacus! ................Oh hell...who am I kidding? I'm Peter Griffin.)
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To: Ann Archy

She worked in a tax collector’s office.

People paying money to the State don’t want to be put off by the employees they are paying for.

Police have to keep their tattoos covered up, even if they have “sleeved” tattoos up their arms and are working in the summertime.


46 posted on 11/30/2007 1:34:43 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Exactly. If you want to feel special work hard and build credibility and relationships at the office. I worked for a client that I had to go out and buy a new suit. It was only for a short month long contract but I still did it. It just came with the territory.

Why people believe that just because they are hired they deserve to have a protected position is beyond me.


47 posted on 11/30/2007 1:35:25 PM PST by Maelstorm (Stupidty disguised as feelings is not an excuse for bad behavior.)
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To: vpintheak

“Another dumb liberal youth gets slapped in the face with reality.”

LOL So true!!!


48 posted on 11/30/2007 1:35:25 PM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: weegee

Just the way it should be.....


49 posted on 11/30/2007 1:35:28 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: FrdmLvr

So, our tax dollars are paying for that?


50 posted on 11/30/2007 1:35:32 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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