U.S. War Vets to Speak Publicly About War Crimes

OneWorld.Net ^ | Nov 30, 2007 | Aaron Glantz

[Phil Harmonic]

SAN FRANCISCO, Nov 29 (OneWorld) - U.S. war veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan have announced they're planning to descend on Washington, DC this March to testify about war crimes they committed or personally witnessed in Iraq.

"The war in Iraq is not covered to its potential because of how dangerous it is for reporters to cover it," said Liam Madden, a former Marine and member of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War. "That's left a lot of misconceptions in the minds of the American public about what the true nature of military occupation looks like."

Iraq Veterans Against the War argues that well-publicized incidents of American brutality like the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of an entire family of Iraqis in the town of Haditha are not the isolated incidents perpetrated by "a few bad apples," as many politicians and military leaders have claimed. They are part of a pattern, the group says, of "an increasingly bloody occupation."

"This is our generation getting to tell history," Madden told OneWorld, "to ensure that the actual history gets told -- that it's not a sugar-coated, diluted version of what actually happened."

Iraq Veterans Against the War is calling the gathering a "Winter Soldier," named after a similar event organized by Vietnam veterans in 1971.

[Phil Harmonic]

Iraq era veterans, here comes your John Kerry...

[ozzymandus]

If these traitors are going to “confess” to war crimes they supposedly comitted, shouldn’t they be arrested and treated like the Haditha Marines were??

[goldstategop]

Winter Soldier Re-run with the inevitable lies and slander of our soldiers in Iraq. You can be rest assured, that unlike John F*ckin' in 1971, they are not going to get away with it again. Not this time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Professional]

Everyone in Iraq or Afghanistan is a volunteer. Anyone complaining is either a liar, or some plant. And FR will not take long to figure out which they are...

[rabscuttle385]

They are part of a pattern, the group says, of "an increasingly bloody occupation."

Philadelphia is an increasingly bloody occupation due to the crime rates. So is Detroit. And, let's not forget Ray Nagin's beloved "Chocolate City." The blue states are all quagmires. We should withdraw immediately, and let them take care of themselves!

[pepsionice]

By the UCMJ...once you admit a crime...its on record, and the court-martial is very quick. You have very little defense...and these investigators have gotten very smart over the past five years. If you did a crime...admitting so...you spend time in jail, period.

[Jet Jaguar]

Well put.

[MaxMax]

Phoney soldiers?

[ozzymandus]

Then they should be arrested and charged as soon as they finish “confessing”.

[Viking2002]

Not only isn't this news, it isn't even an amusing clinical observation of extreme Leftist psychosis. They simply exist. And we have to drive on the same roads as them. And shop in the same stores. It makes me feel like I have cooties.

Jim, put a bullet into this site's links. Danke Schoen.

Oh, Phil - nothing personal. Your heart's in the right place. But I'd rather watch my dog lick himself.

[Jet Jaguar]

With a climate justice link, I would agree.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Will Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp be there to cover it for The New Republic?!

[Phil Harmonic]

If these traitors are going to “confess” to war crimes they supposedly comitted, shouldn’t they be arrested and treated like the Haditha Marines were??

"...to testify about war crimes they committed or personally witnessed in Iraq."

I guess it remains to be seen if they'll be leg-iron worthy. They're elder brothers were long on allegations and short on affidavits.

[camerakid400]

oy vey...how depressing.

[RaceBannon]

scumwaffle

[Brad from Tennessee]

The current antiwar movement gets nowhere because all its tactics are just pantomimes of the Vietnam era. What might have had some success in 1971 is not going to fly in 2008. Whatever “testimony” these people have to offer will be transmitted by internet and fact checked. The military will investigate these stories. If the publication of Scott Beauchamp’s fairy tales is a case in point, the Army will respond quickly. Unlike the herd of unwashed derelicts Kerry led to D.C., these losers will likely face a fierce counter demonstration like the Gathering of Eagles and their friends.

[umgud]

These vets are being played like Cindy Sheehan. Look for big dem money in the background. These kids don’t have the $$$ to float this campaign.

[Mr. Silverback]

These guys are going down like a rock in water. I guess they haven’t noticed that the world has changed a lot since 1971. We have these things called the Internet and alternative media now.

[DakotaRed]

I applaud these men for coming forward to admit their war crimes. I pray their sentences will be commensurate with what crimes they committed.

This time, unlike when Kerry played his game before the Senate, I hope all that admit to crimes are arrested and prosecuted, just to give these guys a clear conscience, you know.

[unspun]

We'll make room for their confessions.

[dixiechick2000]

From a Nam Vet’s wife...

...thank you both.

It will be interesting...if not slanderous.

Give ‘em HELL!

[Mr. Silverback]

Oh, I forgot the best part: By the time March rolls around, Iraq will be as quiet as a monastery. These guys are never goping to get our troops pulled from victory central.

[dixiechick2000]

You must be a woman, who has no experience with the military.

Color yourself stupid...

and liberal.

I rarely hit the abuse button, but I will now.

[Phil Harmonic]

Unlike the herd of unwashed derelicts Kerry led to D.C.,...

Assuming this ever comes to fruition (which I highly doubt), Kerry would likely try to chair some ad hoc, latter-day "Fullbright Commission". The political theatre and self-serving potential for Kerry and his MSM defeatists would be blackhole-esque in its allure.

[Gene Eric]

>> “and the massacre of an entire family of Iraqis in the town of Haditha “

It would appear some antagonists need to be brought up to speed on current events. This mischaracterization is doesn’t fly.

[Gene Eric]

>> This mischaracterization is doesn’t fly.

This mischaracterization doesn’t fly.

[Brad from Tennessee]

In 1971 all that was orchestrated by Sen. Ted Kennedy who I believe was pulling strings for Kerry the whole time he was in the Navy.

[dixiechick2000]

My apologies.

You are a leftist.

“http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933135/posts?page=19#19";

To: Phil Harmonic
I applaud these men for coming forward to admit their war crimes. I pray their sentences will be commensurate with what crimes they committed.

This time, unlike when Kerry played his game before the Senate, I hope all that admit to crimes are arrested and prosecuted, just to give these guys a clear conscience, you know.

19 posted on 11/30/2007 11:19:14 PM PST by DakotaRed (Liberals don’t rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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[Cogadh na Sith]

They are part of a pattern, the group says, of "an increasingly bloody occupation."

In the manner of Jenjis Khan?

Haven't we heard this before?

Ol' Genghis sure knew how to handle the Muslims, though....

[geopyg]

“I applaud these men for coming forward to admit their war crimes. I pray their sentences will be commensurate with what crimes they committed.”

- - - - - - - -

I think RedDakota was saying “yeah- come up and tell us your “war crimes” so we can throw your sorry butt in the brig”.

[denydenydeny]

I guarantee that many of these individuals will turn out to be “phony soldiers.”

For the moonbats, the temptation to embellish and to invent will be irresistible.

[piasa]

I think you missed the sarcasm.

[dixiechick2000]

Lordy!

Are posts like this going to be overlooked?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1933135/posts?page=28#28

[Lancey Howard]

Iraq Veterans Against the War argues that well-publicized incidents of American brutality like the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of an entire family of Iraqis in the town of Haditha....

Ha! So much for the credibility of this bunch of pathetic, lying scumbags. "Iraq Veterans Against the War" are no doubt a sad sack assembly of, as we called them in the Marine Corps, "sh!+birds" - - weaklings who couldn't hack it.

[Phil Harmonic]

dixie, may I respectfully suggest that you appear to be missing the sarcasm in DR’s post...

[dixiechick2000]

You’re right...if there was sarcasm there, I totallly missed it.

Please tell your friend to use the /sarc button.

[DakotaRed]

You must be a woman, who has no experience with the military.

Sorry, 59 year old male, 8 year 1 month and 4 days Active Duty United States Army, 5 feb 1969 to 9 March 1977, inlcuding mid July 1969 to 1 January 1971 boots on teh ground South Viet Nam, Central Highlands, II Corps, C roop 7/17th Air Cav, MOS 67V20.

Color yourself stupid...

Thank you, but you might want to reconsider my hue, dear.

and liberal.

Wrong again, hun.

I rarely hit the abuse button, but I will now.

Knock your socks off, sweetie. Afterwards, learn how to detect sarcasm. Or, at least read before blowing a gasket. Ask yourself, if I actually applaud them, why would I desire them to be tried, convicted and sentenced?

[dixiechick2000]

Was this post sarcasm, too?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1933135/posts?page=28#28

[Theresawithanh]

Interesting site, that us.oneworld.com. It all sounds so “kumbaya-y”.

My hope is that these vets live to regret the day that they decided to speak up.

[dixiechick2000]

LOL at me!

I didn’t detect the sarcasm. in your post!

I’m sorry...I thought you were being derogatory.

‘S’cuse me. ;o)

[geopyg]

I see you’re from Washington State too. I’m in the Seattle area, and boy - talk about right in a left world! (from your home page).

[vbmoneyspender]

"The war in Iraq is not covered to its potential because of how dangerous it is for reporters to cover it," said Liam Madden, a former Marine and member of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War.

One of the huge errors the insurgents made in Iraq was making it difficult for their allies in the MSM to get outside of the greenzone and take video for propagandizing Americans on the nightly news. In this regard, IEDs were truly a double-edged sword.

[dixiechick2000]

Lordy...I’m in the Portland area.

That might explain my built in defensiveness. ;o)

I’m sorry DakotaRed.

I misread what you were saying.

[DakotaRed]

No sweat. Good to see you’re a Hunter Supporter as well. I live way down South in Vancouver. Rarely venture into Portland, too danged Liberal for me, LOL.

[hsalaw]

I read it as sarcasm - telling them to come forward and confess so they could be prosecuted.

[oyez]

Next summer the war won’t be an issue, so other issues have to be invented.

[Phil Harmonic]

In this regard, IEDs were truly a double-edged sword.

Interesting take...and quite plausible.

[DakotaRed]

Not to worry, I replied to geopyg thinking it was you. Must be my dull platinum blonde hair, LOL

My apologies if i came across too condescending. It has been a long week and honestly, seeing all this nonsense start up again irritates me no end.

This time, we are not going to take it and will stand up to these “vets,” if they really are.

And yes, I do hope each one that says they committed a war crime is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. No one is forced to commit such acts, but some do and try to blame others.

[the lone wolf]

It’s almost officially winter, so these would be our...Winter Soldiers, right?

[dixiechick2000]

Thank you...I know that now. ;o)