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Wintrop-Win Rockefeller: Bill Clinton & Mike Huckabee connections
December 1, 2007 | vanity

Posted on 12/01/2007 7:36:28 AM PST by topher

For those who do not know the History of the Federal Reserve, a group of Americans wanted a Central Bank, and one of them was John D. Rockefeller.

Now to get this Legislation through Congress, they enlisted Woodrow Wilson, saying if he would sign this Bill, they would get him elected president. They did that by getting Teddy Rooservelt to split the Conservative vote by running against incumbent President Taft -- so it was a three way race.

Now there was a problem with getting the legislation through the Senate. But Senator Nelson Aldrich, the maternal grandfather of Nelson Rockefeller, was able to do that by keeping the US Senate in session with two other senators on Christmas eve, and the three of them passed the Federal Reserve Act.

Fast forward to the 1970s. Hillary Rodham Clinton helps Nelson Rockefeller bolt forward politically in the Watergate hearings. A promise is made to make her husband, Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas (Arkansas at that time was controlled by Winthrop Rockefeller).

Nelson Rockefeller becomes Vice President to Gerald Ford, as close as any Rockefeller as gotten to the Presidency.

Fast forward to the 1990s. Realizing the Democratic Party is in trouble in Arkansas, Win Rockefeller is a Republican. The only son of Winthrop Rockefeller becomes Lt. Gov. under Mike Huckabee.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; democrats; elections; freemason; gop; hillary; huckabee; mikehuckabee; rockefeller; standardoil; stophuckster; winrockefeller
Maybe this should go out to FreeRepublic Chit/Chat land, but I find the connections of Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee to the Rockefeller family quite interesting...
1 posted on 12/01/2007 7:36:30 AM PST by topher
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To: topher

I was reading something about this a few days ago, itersting stuff!


2 posted on 12/01/2007 7:40:00 AM PST by angelsonmyside
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To: topher
Win Rockefeller was the choice of Mike Huckabee to succeed him as Governor until it found out that he had a terrible illness that was life threatening...

I wonder if Mike Huckabee's sensational rise in the polls is due to some Rockefeller/freemason influence.

I might be wrong about all this, but it is more a case of people need to be aware.

The fact that Arlen Spector used the term Scottish Rite to save Bill Clinton from impeachment makes me leery of Freemasons...

3 posted on 12/01/2007 7:40:03 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

I am concerned if our next president is beholding to the Rockefellers (Huckabee). Might not be much difference a Hillary or Huckabee presidency, except we might have to hold our noses from the smell from Washington more often if Hillary is elected...


4 posted on 12/01/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

5 posted on 12/01/2007 7:43:34 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( Unite 4 Mitt ----> STOP Huck & Rudy -----> beat Hillary)
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To: topher
There is no doubt that somebody is promoting Huckabee’s run and out of his own mouth it sure isn’t Jesus.
6 posted on 12/01/2007 7:43:37 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Amen... I have NEVER like huckster... I think it has something to do with the water in hope.

LLS


7 posted on 12/01/2007 7:49:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: topher

I don’t care for Mike Huckabee.

But I will tell you this...Win Rockefeller....both the father and the son....were fantastic people.

Without Winthrop Rockefeller there would be no Republican Party in Arkansas at all. Winthrop Rockefeller served as Arkansas governor reluctantly...every reform he tried to make was opposed bitterly by the Democratic machine. They started rumors about him, they called him names, they pulled every trick.....and in the end they drove him out of office a broken (but not bitter) man. He is a hero of mine.

Win Paul Rockefeller, his son, had one overriding interest....and that was the Boy Scouts. There are a lot of things a multi-billionaire can do on weekends and most of them don’t choose to dress up in Boy Scout uniforms and go to camporees. Win Paul would have been one of the greatest governors Arkansas ever had. He spent his own dime and scoured the country for economic development in Arkansas and never took any credit.

I drove to Little Rock to view Win Paul’s body lying in state. He and Ronald Reagan are about the only politicians I would make the long drive to honor.

My state is better off because of the (highly opposed) efforts of the Rockefeller family to try to establish a two party system here.


8 posted on 12/01/2007 8:02:06 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: LibLieSlayer
Amen... I have NEVER like huckster... I think it has something to do with the water in hope. LLS

I do not think I have ever heard a more stupid response by a preacher over the WWJD question. Yet he promotes himself as a spokesman for Jesus. Then again there was much deceptive seduction over the Clintons, so could well be in the works again.

9 posted on 12/01/2007 8:03:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

As a rule I don’t like or trust slicksters. I trust slick preachers even less.


10 posted on 12/01/2007 8:06:13 AM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: ex-Texan; Eastbound; processing please hold; nicmarlo; Paul Ross; traviskicks

Four members of the American I.G. board were prominent American citizens and members of the Wall Street financial elite: C.E. Mitchell, chairman of National City Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; Edsel B. Ford, president of Ford Motor Company; W.C. Teagle, another director of Standard Oil of New Jersey; and, Paul Warburg, first member of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and chairman of the Bank of Manhattan Company.

Directors of American I.G. were not only prominent in Wall Street and American industry but more significantly were drawn from a few highly influential institutions. (See chart above.)

Between 1929 and 1939 there were changes in the make-up of the board of American I.G. The number of directors varied from time to time, although a majority always had I.G. backgrounds or connections, and the board never had less than four American directors. In 1939 — presumably looking ahead to World War II — an effort was made to give the board a more American complexion, but despite the resignation of Hermann Schmitz, Carl Bosch, and Walter Duisberg, and the appointment of seven new directors, seven members still belonged to the I.G. group. This I.G. predominance increased during 1940 and 1941 as American directors, including Edsel Ford, realized the political unhealthiness of I.G. and resigned.

Several basic observations can be made from this. First, the board of American I.G. had three directors from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the most influential of the various Federal Reserve Banks. American I.G. also had interlocks with Standard Oil of New Jersey, Ford Motor Company, Bank of Manhattan (later to become the Chase Manhattan), and A.E.G. (German General Electric). Second, three members of the board of this American I.G. were found guilty at Nuremburg War Crimes Trials. These were the German, not the American, members. Among these Germans was Max Ilgner, director of the I.G. Farben N.W. 7 office in Berlin, i.e., the Nazi pre-war intelligence office. If the directors of a corporation are collectively responsible for the activities of the corporation, then the American directors should also have been placed on trial at Nuremburg, along with the German directors — that is, if the purpose of the trials was to determine war guilt. Of course, if the purpose of the trials had been to divert attention away from the U.S. involvement in Hitler's rise to power, they succeeded very well in such an objective.


References:

1 German firms have a two-tier board of directors. The Aufsichsrat concerns itself with overall supervision, including financial policy, while the Vorstand is concerned with day-to-day management.

2 Taken from Der Farben-Konzern 1928, (Hoppenstedt, Berlin: I928), pp. 4-5.

3 Elimination of German Resources, p. 943.

4 Ibid, p. 945.

5 New York Times, October 21, 1945, Section 1, pp. 1, 12.

6 Ibid, p. 947.

7 Elimination of German Resources.

8 Bernhard is today better known for his role as chairman of the secretive, so-called Bilderberger meetings. See U.S. Congress, House of Representatives, Special Committee on Un-American Activities, Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain other Propaganda Activities. 73rd Congress, 2nd Session, Hearings No. 73-DC-4. (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1934), Volume VIII, p. 7525.

9 Ibid p. 949.

10 Ibid p. 952.

11 Ibid p. 1293.

12 Ibid p. 954.

13 Ibid p. 954.

14 Ibid, pp. 954-5.

15 U.S. Congress. House of Representatives, Special Committee on Un-American Activities, Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain Other Propaganda Activities, op. cit.

16 Ibid, p. 178.

17 Ibid, p. 183.

18 Ibid, p. 188.

11 posted on 12/01/2007 8:10:01 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Arkinsaw

Well said. This Arkansan couldn’t agree more!


12 posted on 12/01/2007 8:47:47 AM PST by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: topher; All

I’m not surprised!

The Clintons never do anything that isn’t calculated to help them. Hillary’s Socialist/Marxist theories have the potential to destroy America.

The Clintons got into the WH the first time by DIVIDING the repubs - and I’ve always believed Perot knew he was being used by the Clintons to divide the repub party.

WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

While Huckabee may have been a Baptist preacher - he’s not strong enough to be President. Just having a relationship with God is NOT ENOUGH! You have to be worldly-wise - and I believe that’s scriptural.

I’ve recently met with some long-time friends in ministry (20 years) who have proclaimed they were sent to DC (some time ago), and were to pray for the Presidency - and they believe God revealed to them that He had already chosen the MAN.

While some of you may not believe that .. that’s okay. I believe it.

The KEY for us is not to get dragged off the cliff by a deceiptful group (Clinton, Inc.), and fall for a candidate who is really not good for America.

Again .. the Clintons will do anything to WIN .. and we must not allow ourselves to be deceived again.


13 posted on 12/01/2007 9:09:45 AM PST by The Final Harvest (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: topher
"The fact that Arlen Spector used the term Scottish Rite to save Bill Clinton from impeachment makes me leery of Freemasons..."

That's interesting. Got a source or link for that? As i recall, Bill Clinton wasn't saved from impeachment.

14 posted on 12/01/2007 10:09:06 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Sorry, Arlen Spector said something about Scottish Law, not Scottish Rite...

I will have to work on the source.

Bill Clinton did go into the impeachment process, but Arlen Spector's vote was critical and was in favor of Bill Clinton...

15 posted on 12/01/2007 12:09:53 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

It required 67 votes for conviction — not enough Dems were going to cross over. True, Specter’s lack of support may have helped make the episode an embarrassment for the Repubs, but there was no chance Clinton would be removed from office.


16 posted on 12/01/2007 2:14:24 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Eastbound
Arlen Specter used Scottish Law to defend Bill Clinton.

He claims there were three possible outcomes according to Scottish Law -- Guilty, Not Guilty, and Not Proven.

He used Not Proven for his vote on the process.

President Andrew Johnson was impeached (removed from office).

Bill Clinton went true an impeachment trial, but was not removed from office.

17 posted on 12/01/2007 5:29:16 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

Thanks for the clarification.


18 posted on 12/01/2007 6:21:13 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: topher
Fast forward to the 1970s...(Arkansas at that time was controlled by Winthrop Rockefeller).

Hardly.

Gov. Winthrop Rockefeller got wiped out in the 1964 election, swamped by the anti-Goldwater vote.

At that point, Arkansas returned to its traditional role, as a Democrat fiefdom.

19 posted on 12/01/2007 6:29:05 PM PST by okie01
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To: topher
President Andrew Johnson was impeached (removed from office).

You're mistaken. Like Bill Clinton, Andrew Johnson was impeached (i.e., indicted by the House). And, like Bill Clinton, Andrew Johnson was not convicted by the Senate.

20 posted on 12/01/2007 6:33:11 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01
He was hardly a conservative by nature. His last act after being defeated for re-election in 1970 was to commute the sentance of everyone on death row in Arkansas.

Maybe as a pro-lifer such an act should be praised. But not necessarily by one who is conservative.

One concern I have for such harden criminals -- even if their death penalty is commuted to life -- is that they might take the life of Prison Guards or even other prisoners...

He is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller, Sr., of Standard Oil fame...

21 posted on 12/01/2007 6:41:15 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
He was hardly a conservative by nature.

Did I say that he was?

And I admit my error. In 1964, Winthrop Rockefeller ran for governor -- but was soundly defeated by the incumbent, Orval Faubus.

Rockefeller did not win election until 1966 -- but was himself defeated, as you note, by Democrat Dale Bumpers when he ran for re-election in 1970.

22 posted on 12/01/2007 6:51:51 PM PST by okie01
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To: topher
Andrew Johnson was NOT removed from office!
Senators William Pitt Fessenden, Joseph S. Fowler, James W. Grimes, John B. Henderson, Lyman Trumbull, Peter G. Van Winkle,[19] and Edmund G. Ross of Kansas, who provided the decisive vote, [20] defied their party and public opinion and voted against conviction.
Johnson also was returned to the Senate in 1874. The Tennessee legislature returned him to the U.S. Senate. Johnson served from March 4, 1875, until his death from a stroke near Elizabethton, Tennessee, on July 31 that same year. He is the only President to serve in the Senate after his presidency.
23 posted on 12/01/2007 7:33:14 PM PST by Reily
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To: topher

Neither Arkansas Rockefeller was a conservative. Doesn’t matter, they were good honest men.

The elder Rockefeller worked to establish a two-party system in a one-party dictatorship. He took a big fat axe to the Arkansas Democratic Party machine. He lost his health and ultimately his life enduring their backstabs, attacks, tricks, and whispering campaigns.

The day he left office the government of Arkansas, as bad as it is, was 1000 times better than it was the day he took office.

He modernized the government as much as he could. He cleaned up the hell pit that was the Arkansas prison system. He quietly and peacefully integrated the public schools with no trouble. He started bringing African-Americans into the state government and ignored opposition by the segregationist Democratic party.

Say what you will about the rest of the Rockefellers, but Winthrop and Win Paul were great men, great Republicans, and great Arkansans.


24 posted on 12/01/2007 8:24:53 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: topher

To claim that Winthrop Rockefeller Sr. controlled Arkansas politics in the early seventies isn’t vanity, it’s insanity.


25 posted on 12/01/2007 8:26:13 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Calpernia
"Paul Warburg"

'Gloryoski, Zero! That's Daddy Warbucks.'

26 posted on 12/03/2007 3:07:50 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: All

If the national debt was zero, and trade deficit was zero, would anyone complain about the Federal Reserve?


27 posted on 12/03/2007 3:15:05 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: CyberAnt

The Clintons never do anything that isn’t calculated to help them. Hillary’s Socialist/Marxist theories have the potential to destroy America.

The Clintons got into the WH the first time by DIVIDING the repubs - and I’ve always believed Perot knew he was being used by the Clintons to divide the repub party.

WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

****************************

Did Perot split the Republicans, or did the free-traitors split the Republicans?

Considering the big complaint about immigration, I seriously doubt the anarcho-capitalists are really loved by a majority of Republican voters.


28 posted on 12/03/2007 3:19:27 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: Calpernia

29 posted on 12/03/2007 3:44:43 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

Never heard of that one. Gravity’s Rainbow? I’ll check it out.


30 posted on 12/03/2007 5:24:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
I.G. Farben is the bad guy. OK, one of the bad guys.
31 posted on 12/03/2007 5:30:00 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

Yeah, I’m in the middle of reading “The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben” by Joseph Borkin for the second time. It was listed at our government archives as a reference.


32 posted on 12/03/2007 5:48:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: topher

bttt


33 posted on 02/05/2008 4:02:26 AM PST by bmwcyle (the Beltway crowd is like a bunch of women who have started menstruating together)
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To: topher

Birds of a feather . . .

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007


34 posted on 02/05/2008 4:05:12 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: topher

Another Arkansas governor who carries the Bible for the television cameras.


35 posted on 02/05/2008 4:07:36 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: topher
The dates here do not hold up. Winthrop Rockefeller was soundly defeated for reelection by Dale Bumpers in November 1970. Bill Clinton was for Bumpers, not WR. WR died in February 1973.

The Watergate investigation was barely getting underway, and WR had been dead at least two months.

There were reports that WR and Nelson rarely spoke: that Nelson looked down on WR for moving to AR.

Huckabee was not completely a Win Paul backer either because Win Paul favored abortion. Win Paul for governor in 2006, had he lived, was in the situation of Mitt Romney trying to convince people that he was somehow also “pro-life,” when the record showed otherwise.

After Win Paul’s tragic death, the party turned to Asa Hutchinson, who was defeated soundly for a second time statewide (the first was against Bumpers in 1986). The Hutchinsons did to the AR GOP what GWB has done to us nationally. Joseph Farah wrote on Feb. 4, 2008, that GWB has “euthanized” the conservative movement.

36 posted on 02/05/2008 5:57:31 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Hunterite

Henry Ross Perot was not a Republican prior to 1991. He was a close advisor to Democratic Governor Mark White from 1983-1987 and advised White to pursue the “no-pass/no-play” policy that angered many voters who like Friday night football games. Apparently though he had flirted with Nixon in the early 1970s. The late Richard Crenna once played him in a film.


37 posted on 02/05/2008 6:00:26 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Arkinsaw

That is a very touch story about Win Paul’s death. I understand he had a handicapped child too. But he supported abortion.


38 posted on 02/05/2008 6:04:20 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Arkinsaw

Thanks for your compelling point of view about Winthrop Rockefeller. Too often, FReepers go for the black-or-white view of public personalities.


39 posted on 02/05/2008 12:21:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("How [Obama] stumbled onto Walter Mondale's political philosophy is beyond me." —Tony Blankley)
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