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Who Is The Real Romney?
The Day ^ | Dec. 01, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 12/01/2007 9:06:35 AM PST by jdm

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To: ejonesie22
BTW, before I get nailed, “the others” does not include Hunter.

He is conservative, period, as well.

Oh yeah and Tanc...

21 posted on 12/01/2007 10:14:22 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: jdm
The one who says it should be up to states to decide

The Jerry Ford position, completely contrary to the Reagan pro-life platform, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution of the United States.

So, he went from being a thirty-five year fierce proponent of abortion on demand, to an egregious Stephen A. Douglas position that ignores the cornerstone principle of American liberty: That our rights come from our Creator, and therefore cannot be taken away by any man.

I wouldn't buy a used car from this man.

22 posted on 12/01/2007 10:18:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals??)
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To: jdm

“At this stage, it’s not the time,”:

This implies that at some date (time) it will, and not a true committment that homosexuals should not be given special rights, let alone seen as anything other than a mental disorder and sexual perversion!


23 posted on 12/01/2007 10:27:08 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: jdm; Gipper08

And you can ~STOMACH~ this..?


24 posted on 12/01/2007 10:31:01 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Owen

“And Thompson’s military experience is what?”

I didn’t comment on Thompson’s military experience. I was castigating Romney for saying weasel words about gays in the military. I said it proves that Romney knows NOTHING about the military.

Mitt Romney did not rule it out. He said, “not at this time.” Weasel words. He said he would consult the military leaders. Military leaders have already stated for the record that they are against it.

Let me be blunt. Most soldiers/sailors don’t like having to deal with open homosexuals in close quarters. They don’t like being ogled in the showers. Their bunks are crammed together on ships. It effects unit cohesion and damages morale.


25 posted on 12/01/2007 10:47:45 AM PST by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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To: jdm

He’s a flipper who is several orders of magnitude worse than John Kerry, who was excoriated for so much less “nuance” than Romney practices.
Romney will operate on the advice of lawyers and military advisors. I just want to know who will pick them, Romney or someone hired by anybody-but-Romney.
How many degrees of separation does he use when decisions need to be made?


26 posted on 12/01/2007 10:48:43 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Owen

Actually your information is old, and Hunter does have some money now. We (several of us) sent him a bunch yesterday. My own family has made felt sacrifices to support his campaign, and will continue to do so.


27 posted on 12/01/2007 10:59:36 AM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: jdm
Rudy thanks you. ((Smooch)).

ANN COULTER from the Glenn Beck interview:
I think the Republicans, we have a choice between Rudy Giuliani and Romney, and with Giuliani struggling to get to the right of Hillary on the social issues, I certainly have a preference there.

Ann is absolutely right. Rudy or Mitt. Pick one.

Iowa is a month away. Romney is leading in several early states. He's the only one with the money and the campaign organization that can stop Rudy. Ann cannot be the only smart and savvy Republican left, is she? Divided so-cons = Rudy nomination.

28 posted on 12/01/2007 11:03:29 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( Unite 4 Mitt ----> STOP Huck & Rudy -----> beat Hillary)
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To: ejonesie22
Something else that should be considered about FRED THOMPSON is that throughout the years since he was in the Senate, he has maintained his Security status in that he has a seat at the table as an adviser on national security to the administration.

FRED’s national security background is incredible. Romney, Rudy, and Huckabee have no experience at all in national security. In this state of war, we do not need to provide on the job training.

29 posted on 12/01/2007 11:23:23 AM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: redgirlinabluestate; All
Do we need to whip out the Rush quote?

You know Rush Limbaugh, the original Conservative Radio Pundit, the Godfather of the movement the past 2 decades, the man who did more to keep Conservatism off the ash heap of political history than anyone. The one from whom many conservative pundits owe their start or at least a part of their fame.

Didn’t think so...

30 posted on 12/01/2007 11:45:51 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

“Pick one.”

1.) Willard
2.) Rooty
3.) None of the above

I’ll take what’s behind door number 3, Drew.

(But do you want Rooty to win? No. Do you want Hillary to win?! No. Don’t you want Mitt to win?!? No.)

No. No. No.
(”Katie, we’re seeing an unusual phenomenon in our exit polling. Very few of the voters are identifying themselves as `conservatives’.”)


31 posted on 12/01/2007 11:49:57 AM PST by tumblindice (Mr. Sparkle: disrespectful to dirt & RINO/CINOs. NO!)
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To: JSDude1

++“At this stage, it’s not the time,”++

“This implies that at some date (time) it will, and not a true committment that homosexuals should not be given special rights, let alone seen as anything other than a mental disorder and sexual perversion!”


ROMNEY: “One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”


32 posted on 12/01/2007 11:50:17 AM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: ejonesie22
Like I said on the other thread, nobody was gunning for Fred. Rush failed to realize that Fred was not anyone's intended target during the debate.

Nobody was asking Fred about his past statements and how they meshed with his current positions. So, yeah, it was easy to fly under the radar at the debate.

CNN and the other candidates were indifferent to Fred, for the most part. Had he been leading in any of the early states, I am sure CNN would have made sure that some of the youtube clips would have been directed at his weaknesses and Cooper would have gone into the discrepancies and changes in his positions.

Like Huckabee said, it is a good thing when people are kicking you from behind. It means you are in front. Why bother kicking someone when they are in the back?

33 posted on 12/01/2007 11:53:45 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( Unite 4 Mitt ----> STOP Huck & Rudy -----> beat Hillary)
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To: jdm

“Who Is The Real Romney?”

Might as well ask, “Where does the white go when the snow melts?”


34 posted on 12/01/2007 11:58:17 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: All

People, let’s go through this again.

A GOP president in 2009 will not advance any program at all. His role will be to avoid having vetoes overturned. There will likely be a Democrat Congress by virtue of the sheer number of seats scheduled to be up for election next year for each party, and the disproportionate GOP retirements taking place. It will be very much worse in the Senate. There will possibly be enough votes to override vetoes if the president is not profoundly brilliant and competent at political maneuvering.

The role of the 2009 GOP president is not to be a firebrand. It is not to take strong conservative stands. A firebrand will galvanize the opposition and we will see veto override after veto override — and we will CONDEMN our families and neighbors to life in socialism and a life filled total disrespect for traditional values — all because a “strong conservative” stood up and made himself a target for veto overrides. Have no doubt about it. Those overrides will destroy your life up to 2010, which would be the very soonest you could hope to win seats.

The role of a 2009 GOP president is not to stand up and “make you proud” with his comments. It is to stop your life from being flushed into the sewer of Democratic policies. The only way to stop that is to maneuver and make conciliatory noises and nudge legislation rightward just enough to prevent overrides. Then if they resist veto everything that comes across his desk until each bill is watered down to nothingness, and he runs out the clock ‘til 2010 when the Dems have more seats to defend.

So please THINK. This is not about chest thumping right wing politics. This is about icy cold maneuvering of policy, PR and nuances of legislation to prevent America from becoming communist. Only the smartest of our candidates is qualified to do that. That’s Romney.


35 posted on 12/01/2007 12:54:30 PM PST by Owen
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To: JackRyanCIA

I don’t think Ron Paul is! LOL


36 posted on 12/01/2007 12:57:12 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: jdm

After seeing the Huckster on TV, Romney is starting to look better and better every hour (though not nearly as good as Fred or Duncan).


37 posted on 12/01/2007 12:59:35 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: Owen

Romney is moderate to liberal according to his past. Why would he do as you speciously assert when he has been the enabler for eroding conservative valuse rather than the compromiser to keep conservative principles from erosion? And even if a Romney would seek to sway toward conservative, if the Congress has override votes to cancel him, why would the leftist democrats botehr to compromise when they could shove their socialism/leftism down our throats? Your whole post is juvenile in its assumptions!


38 posted on 12/01/2007 1:03:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: jdm
"Improve the Shining Moment."

Or something.

39 posted on 12/01/2007 1:05:57 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: ejonesie22
If they were worrying about Fred, they may have asked him to explain this for instance:

David Brody pointed out recently that Fred Thompson is going to be hounded on the immigration issue.

Read below from a Washington Times story:

CBN NEWS: Thompson Now Officially Seeking Presidency: Some votes are likely to draw scrutiny, particularly a series of votes in the 1990s against cracking down on illegal aliens. Those include a 1995 vote against limiting services other than emergency care and public education to illegal aliens - he was one of just six senators to oppose that proposal - and a 1996 vote against creating an employer verification system to help businesses filter out illegal aliens who apply for jobs....

But on immigration, Mr. Thompson had several votes where he bucked the pack - and seemed to favor illegal aliens.

The most stark example was his 1995 vote on the welfare overhaul, when he voted to preserve illegal aliens' ability to receive federal benefits. He was one of just six senators to vote that way, joining four other Republicans and one Democrat.
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/225944.aspx

This sounds a little like Huckabee.

40 posted on 12/01/2007 1:13:38 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( Unite 4 Mitt ----> STOP Huck & Rudy -----> beat Hillary)
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