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Stepson recalls a night of alcohol (but no $$ for meds)
The Boston Globe ^ | 12/02/2007 | Megan Woolhouse & James Pindell

Posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:31 AM PST by Andy'smom

ROCHESTER, N.H. - In the hours before he allegedly took five people hostage at Hillary Clinton's campaign office Friday, Leeland Eisenberg sat drinking rum and cokes with his stepson in his trailer.

He drank heavily, and in a fog of frustration and delusion, said he could no longer afford his medication for bipolar disorder, his stepson, Benjamin Warren, said by phone last night. Unemployed, Eisenberg had no money to see a doctor; a local hospital turned him away when he went for help, Warren said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: eisenberg; hillary; hillarycare; hoax; hostages; nh2008; plant; scam; universalhealthcare
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I think I'm ready to put on my tinfoil hat now.
1 posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:33 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Andy'smom

So, we need “free” health care. QED.


2 posted on 12/02/2007 5:26:58 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Andy'smom

Don’t tell me you think he’s another DNC plant.


3 posted on 12/02/2007 5:27:05 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Either that or free booze and mixers.


4 posted on 12/02/2007 5:27:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Andy'smom
He drank heavily, and in a fog of frustration and delusion, said he could no longer afford his medication for bipolar disorder, his stepson, Benjamin Warren, said by phone last night.

Substitute things like LG TV, XBox and new car for alcohol, and you've got your typical Democrat supporter. No sense of personal responsibility.

5 posted on 12/02/2007 5:29:20 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Andy'smom; PJ-Comix

Did anyone get his screen-name at DU or Kos?


6 posted on 12/02/2007 5:29:58 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Moonman62
Either that or free booze and mixers.

Well, some folks like to "self medicate" and that should be free too!

7 posted on 12/02/2007 5:31:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Andy'smom

Bipolar meds are countra indicated by alcohol and they are basically free from every public mental health facility in the country.

Not taking your meds and consuming alcohol is a common characteristic of anti social behaviour and bi polar mental illness in general terms.


8 posted on 12/02/2007 5:32:36 AM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: Andy'smom
He did not need a hospital. . .he only needed to take his 'meds'. . .

. . .knowing that he is 'disturbed' when not on them; making a conscious decision to not take them; says to me, one should be considered fully responsible for one's own, outcome based decision.

Applies to 'meds'. . .drugs; alcohol and any other impairment, people CHOOSE to operate under.

9 posted on 12/02/2007 5:33:30 AM PST by cricket (Just say N.O. to U.N..)
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To: Andy'smom

Bipolars don’t act with logic, even on their meds.

Many bipolars don’t respond to all medications. It’s like mixing cocktails. Some work, some don’t. Then after they’ve worked for a while, they stop and you have to start all over again. Besides, they often won’t take them, because they are fine- it’s everyone else who is crazy.

My husband was on lithium, which was cheap. But he also needed one that was more than $500 a month. I used to get down on my knees and thank God every day we had good insurance. The thing is, if he had no income, most of the drug companies had programs to give drugs for little or no cost. But bipolars often can’t muster up the logic to even fill out a paper. If I tried to give my husband a paper, he would usually end up throwing something through the window. I did it all.

The sad thing is, society really has no answer for the brittle manic depressive. Family is the only one, and they usually alienate them all.

To this guy, holding Hillary’s headquarters hostage I’m sure made perfect sense. It’s classic. My husband had to be babysitted to make sure he didn’t do stuff like that, even taking expensive meds. And he had numerous expensive hospital stays.


10 posted on 12/02/2007 5:35:51 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Incorrigible

At least the guy was smart enough not to be brandishing a weapon. It would have made him an easy Foster shot.


11 posted on 12/02/2007 5:37:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Andy'smom
It’s obvious. Hillary and her staff should drop all charges, and use some of her campaign contributions for booze and meds for the guy, since Bush obviously isn’t paying for them.
12 posted on 12/02/2007 5:38:19 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Andy'smom
Funny how all these AH that are victims of some modern umba gumba mythical spirit creatures....funny how they never step in front of a bus. Or spit in the face of a guy who is 6’6”, 280?
Funny how they manipulate, scam, have all the socialist ‘science’ jargon down pat.

Funny how these people can drive, buy, drink, mix, screw, eat, travel, tell jokes...and yet have some disease that doesn’t show up on any CAT scan, or blood test.

Bull.

13 posted on 12/02/2007 6:32:24 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Andy'smom

Oh my,,,,,,,here we go,,,,,,,,,,playing the “victim” card, couldn’t afford meds, which will lead us to hills famous healthcare plan.....hang on to your bippies people, the fun has just begun!


14 posted on 12/02/2007 6:44:43 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: rockabyebaby
No one has yet said that this dude is receiving public assistance. We have a whole trailor park full not too far from me.

So where does his beer money come from? Is he receiving some kind of disability benefits? What was his settlement from the church?

Where's the other side of the coin on this guy?

15 posted on 12/02/2007 6:56:47 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Andy'smom
He's a democrat, I grew up in that area and escaped, and no doubt about it he's a democrat. If he was a republican the media wouldn't be working so hard to make this a non story.


16 posted on 12/02/2007 6:58:11 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Andy'smom

“Yeah, give me 3 cartons of Marlboros, a case of Bud, three quarts of Jamaican Rum, and,....darn it that doesn’t leave me with enough dough to by my Meds, oh well, just enough left for dozen Trojans and my Cialis!”


17 posted on 12/02/2007 7:00:19 AM PST by Doc Savage (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: Andy'smom

Every bi-polar “person” I’ve come in contact with has been nothing but abusive and destructive to themselves and everyone around them. They actually point to their condition for sympathy and try to excuse their behavior instead of utilizing treatment. Steer clear!


18 posted on 12/02/2007 7:00:31 AM PST by The Worthless Miracle (No one can steal your inner worth if they don't know where to look for it.)
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To: darkwing104
He's a democrat,

Highly likely.

19 posted on 12/02/2007 7:00:35 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: Sacajaweau

Imagine the surprised look on Vince’s face when Hitlery shot him. Actually I think she may have left that drop piece on his desk, he picks it up, while Hitlery is telling a SS agent that he threatened to shoot her. Guy opens the door, Vince has the gun in his hand, turns toward the door and the guy wipes him. LOL!


20 posted on 12/02/2007 7:03:26 AM PST by Doc Savage (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
You're quite right. My brother uses it as an excuse at every turn. I want to kick him in the butt sometimes...but he's my brother. I really don't think the shrinks help. They almost enhance things he does....like my bro is doing the right thing...to match up with the shrink's diagnosis.

My bro sounds much better when he's off the meds.

21 posted on 12/02/2007 7:08:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Doc Savage

What always got me was that IIRC, Linda Tripp was the last person to see him alive.


22 posted on 12/02/2007 7:10:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: I still care
To this guy, holding Hillary’s headquarters hostage I’m sure made perfect sense. It’s classic

You are correct. I feel sorry for him, and anyone who has persistent mental illness. The brain is an organ just like the heart, lungs, kidneys and skin. It's reasonable to think that the brain can be injured, and break down, too.

23 posted on 12/02/2007 7:16:01 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Leisler
It's not funny at all, my freeper friend. It's a tragedy, not a comedy.

If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

Don't judge all these unfortunate souls and their equally unfortunate families by this one person.

If you had to live with or care for a bi-polar sufferer for one year, you would have your eyes opened wider than a Hillary stare.

Leni

24 posted on 12/02/2007 7:20:04 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: I still care
To this guy, holding Hillary’s headquarters hostage I’m sure made perfect sense.

Makes perfect sense to me in any state of mind.

25 posted on 12/02/2007 7:24:40 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: MinuteGal
If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

Agree. It may not show up on a CAT scan but it is real and it can be devastating.

26 posted on 12/02/2007 7:29:11 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Andy'smom
On a previous thread,I predicted this was going to be about free health care. The beast is looking more transparent everyday!
27 posted on 12/02/2007 7:38:15 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: I still care

I had a NCO that I worked closely with for almost four years...returned back to the base three years ago...and had a stroke two years ago...and is now bi-polar. The air force gave him a medical discharge and he gets help...but he really isn’t capable of trusting 100 percent. I had lunch with him four months ago...and felt pretty sorry for him...but based on things he’s done in the past twelve months....you can’t judge him “safe”. His wife is helping him but I doubt she lasts more than three or four years.

I can understand this guy in New Hampshire....but there isn’t much that Hillary or state-mandated healthcare (other than paying for the meds) can do for this guy...if he won’t take his meds.


28 posted on 12/02/2007 7:41:40 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
I can understand this guy in New Hampshire....but there isn’t much that Hillary or state-mandated healthcare (other than paying for the meds) can do for this guy...if he won’t take his meds.

Too many stop taking their meds because, at the time, they think they don't need them any longer. Treating this type mental illness is complicated, because of the vicious cycles these people encounter. They should be monitored all the time, as well as attend groups, or charitable organizations that can help them cope and be with others who have the same or similar illness.

29 posted on 12/02/2007 7:48:40 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Andy'smom

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=546834&fromPageCatId=5431

He couldn’t afford $4? There is quite a long list of medicines for mental health provided by Wal Mart for $4 for a 1 month supply. His is probably on the list.


30 posted on 12/02/2007 7:50:06 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: MinuteGal
Millions believe in UFO’s. Millions believed and killed for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot. Mohammad got personal verbal commands from Allah. Ditto Moses.

A trillion now dead primitive people believed in all sorts of powerful forces. People still believe in the talking cures of Freud. Few people belove in aura therapy.

People believe all sorts of things. Parents believe their dolt kid is a genius. Others that their smart kid is a dolt.

I don’t.

31 posted on 12/02/2007 7:51:45 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler

You are wrong on this one. Bi-polar is a major illness, and not difficult to diagnose at all. (in severe cases) It almost always turns out bad. If you ever spent any time with someone bi-polar you would not doubt the illness.

I have experience with bi-polar relatives and through my work. And you say they don’t do anything stupid like step in front of a bus etc., but they do, all the time. Suicide, is a very common outcome of this problem. They crash planes, jump in front of subways, buses or oncoming traffic. They jump off of buildings, they drink Drano, they breath exhaust from the tail pipes of cars. I have seen it all.

Worst part about it is that the treatments are not very good, and most do not like to take their meds. They make up excuses not to, and then they go on a binge. This man sounds textbook to me. Please do some research on this problem. It is no like so many other fabricated diseases. It is for real.


32 posted on 12/02/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic
None of that is distinctive or unique.
33 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:07 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Andy'smom

Where did he get the money for the alcohol??????????


34 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:57 AM PST by therut
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To: Leisler
Huh?

Leni

35 posted on 12/02/2007 8:22:03 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: I still care

Been there,
done that,
I DO understand,
(Right down to praying I’d come home to a standing house and live pets).

and yes, there is nothing scarier that an OOC Bipolar.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 8:24:29 AM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: cricket
. . .knowing that he is 'disturbed' when not on them; making a conscious decision to not take them; says to me, one should be considered fully responsible for one's own, outcome based decision.

He was listed as a paranoid schizophrenic. One of the attributes of schizophrenia is stopping medication. Often the patient feels that the pills make them worse and the doctors are in on it. They are paranoid.

Over and over in the news you'll see references to crimes committed by schizophrenics who "stopped taking their meds". It is really common.

37 posted on 12/02/2007 8:30:27 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: ga medic
Worst part about it is that the treatments are not very good, and most do not like to take their meds. They make up excuses not to, and then they go on a binge. This man sounds textbook to me. Please do some research on this problem. It is no like so many other fabricated diseases. It is for real.

You are right on! Even after researching mental illness, dealing with it daily, as part of my job, is an eye opener. People don't want to be this way, but they have no control over this illness. Unless the meds work, they are completely dependent on others, which they don't normally have. These people need counseling, along with their meds. I work in a non profit organization, affiliated with a church. We provide counseling, psychiatric treatment, groups, meals, and a place for the mentally ill to congregate and/or just hang out during the day. No one is turned away for lack of funds. Nearly all cities have places like this, but, these people need someone to guide them to us.

38 posted on 12/02/2007 8:31:18 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: MinuteGal; Drew68
If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

My wife's sister is. And I/we do feel very sorry. What we have run up against for 30 years is that she not only refuses to deal with it in *any* sort of constructive manner; worse, she uses it as an excuse for everything. Nothing is ever her responsibility, everyone in the family is here for her benefit.

It is very frustrating when, on one hand, she admits she has problems (but refuses to call it bi-polar) and then will list all of the reasons she can't do anything about it. No matter what any of us suggest, she always tells us she can't do it.

I think her mental problems are much broader than the bi-polar thing. Of course, no emotional or mental problem exists in a vacuum.

39 posted on 12/02/2007 8:35:59 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
It is very frustrating when, on one hand, she admits she has problems (but refuses to call it bi-polar) and then will list all of the reasons she can't do anything about it. No matter what any of us suggest, she always tells us she can't do it. I think her mental problems are much broader than the bi-polar thing. Of course, no emotional or mental problem exists in a vacuum.

You are probably right that she has broader problems. And, narcissistic behavior is normal for them. They know they are screwed up, and are frustrated that "no one understands". To an extent, she is correct, but most of us in the business do understand that they have little control over their behavior. Behavior is a symptom of their illness, as is the way they think. Now, if only we could find out how to fix that...

40 posted on 12/02/2007 8:44:05 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Jaidyn
No one is turned away for lack of funds. Nearly all cities have places like this, but, these people need someone to guide them to us.

Also see my post #39.

Free counseling and meds won't help when you can't get someone to use them.

My SIL seems to want the counselor she sees to simply tell her she can't do anything for herself & validate her unwillingness to try doing so. When he gave her FREE meds she refused to take them. Even in the past when she has taken meds that have helped, she would stop taking them.
After a long time, you realize you just can't do much to alter the situation. Sad.

41 posted on 12/02/2007 8:44:20 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Free counseling and meds won't help when you can't get someone to use them. My SIL seems to want the counselor she sees to simply tell her she can't do anything for herself & validate her unwillingness to try doing so. When he gave her FREE meds she refused to take them. Even in the past when she has taken meds that have helped, she would stop taking them. After a long time, you realize you just can't do much to alter the situation. Sad.

I know. I work with persistent mental illness, those who will never be cured. They cycle and are in and out of crisis centers often. And, families can't do much, except not write them off, as so many do. We are sort of baby sitters for them. They come in for breakfast, and stay all day. They have access to computers, arts & crafts, music, TV, along with other activities, as well as group sessions, which are voluntary. Maybe your sil would find some comfort in a place like this, as well as you and the family. We aren't a cure, but we are hope. And yes, it is sad, very sad.

42 posted on 12/02/2007 8:51:34 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Leisler

Ok. If you want the distinctive or unique version, they experience srong periods of depression, where they are overcome with thoughts of suicide, and are often unable to function.

These periods of depression are followed by manic periods, in which the patient rarely sleeps, and focuses intently on something or someone. They become completely absorbed in their “project” to the exclusion of everything else, and without any restraint or inhibition. They become addicted to this period of what they consider productivity, or mania.

Then the cycle repeats itself again. Drugs such as lithium are effective for treatment and can even out the extremeness of the mood swings. They typically do not like the medicine, because it robs them of the manic periods. They will take the meds for a while and then go off of them. Then the cycle begins to repeat itself. Most of them will attempt suicide more than once in their lifetime. Many are successful. There is no cure, only treatment which is not always effective or well-tolerated.

There has been some scientific research into bipolar which I believe they have documented identifiable changes in brain function among those diagnosed with bi-polar disorder, so there is actually a diagnostic test for it. I will have to check on whether it is available beyond research. The symptoms are so severe, it is not usually necessary to run further tests.


43 posted on 12/02/2007 8:51:56 AM PST by ga medic
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To: Leisler

Wrong,
Bi polar (manic depression) as been diagnosed for decades. It’s real and its terrifying for those who work and love those who have it.

I was married to one, have a close friend who has the dx and work with them as part of my job.

It’s as real as a heart attack.


44 posted on 12/02/2007 8:52:06 AM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: najida
There is no objective test. No science.

So called ‘diagnoses are no more scientific that Satanic possession by Priests, or woodland ghosts by Druids.

45 posted on 12/02/2007 8:58:06 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler
Leisler, please stop your mumbo-jumbo. The totality of your comments on these threads reveal that you may have some sort of problem yourself.

Please allow those sincerely interested in discussing this very real illness to post in peace.

Your profile page is a piece in itself.

Leni

46 posted on 12/02/2007 9:21:11 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: Leisler

There are objective tests and lots of science now, including brain scans and measuring hypocampal size etc.

All there is to know about medicine didn’t stop yesterday. Like those in the Dark Ages who though twins were result of the mother sleeping with two different men, or bleeding someone with fever let out the bad ‘humors’.....it’s always evolving.


47 posted on 12/02/2007 9:22:34 AM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: Jaidyn

It sounds like you are doing as much as you can to help these poor people. God Bless you. I know it cannot be easy, and it can be very discouraging. I see the results of Bi Polar disorder far more than I would like. Either the suicides, or the mania that goes beyond limits. Sad either way, but it encourages me to know that there are people out there like you who are trying to help them.


48 posted on 12/02/2007 9:37:50 AM PST by ga medic
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To: najida

Sorry. There is no scan, blood test that is unique.

Dr. Joseph Glenmullen, a clinical instructor in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, “There are no medical tests to diagnose bipolar disorder, depression, or any other psychiatric condition: no blood tests, X-rays, brain scans, or any other objective tests. Medical tests should be used to rule out other conditions that can look like depression such as thyroid conditions. But all psychiatric diagnoses are subjective.”


49 posted on 12/02/2007 9:48:43 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler

So you DO turn to science to support what you want to believe and ignore it when you don’t want to believe something.

I stand with the others, you got problems son.


50 posted on 12/02/2007 9:50:39 AM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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