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France stunned by rioters’ savagery [Warning: graphic images downthread]
The Sunday Times (of London) ^ | Dec. 2, 2007 | Matthew Campbell

Posted on 12/02/2007 9:06:11 AM PST by ml/nj

IN retrospect, it was not a good idea to have left his pistol at home. Called to the scene of a traffic accident in the Paris suburbs last Sunday, Jean-François Illy, a regional police chief, came face to face with a mob of immigrant youths armed with baseball bats, iron bars and shotguns.

What happened next has sickened the nation. As Illy tried to reassure the gang that there would be an investigation into the deaths of two teenagers whose motorbike had just collided with a police car, he heard a voice shouting: “Somebody must pay for this. Some pigs must die tonight!”

The 43-year-old commissaire realised it was time to leave, but that was not possible: they set his car ablaze. He stood as the mob closed in on him, parrying the first few baseball bat blows with his arms. An iron bar in the face knocked him down.

“I tried to roll myself into a ball on the ground,” said Illy from his hospital bed. He was breathing with difficulty because several of his ribs had been broken and one had punctured his lung.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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ML/NJ

1 posted on 12/02/2007 9:06:11 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
More rambunctious “youths”.
2 posted on 12/02/2007 9:09:04 AM PST by razzle (What exactly did George Bush lie about, dems?)
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To: ml/nj; Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower
IN retrospect, it was not a good idea to have left his pistol at home

Some learn more slowly than others.

3 posted on 12/02/2007 9:10:15 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: ml/nj

France is lucky to have Sarkozy rather than that Hillary-wanna-be.


4 posted on 12/02/2007 9:10:26 AM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: ml/nj

As in,

Duh.


5 posted on 12/02/2007 9:11:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: ml/nj

Radical Islam = hydrophobia. Only one cure.


6 posted on 12/02/2007 9:11:46 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: ml/nj
Nonsense. This is a revolution against civilization and the 21st century. The longer French police officials rush to the scene of a riot while unarmed, the sooner the new barbarians will take over France.
7 posted on 12/02/2007 9:12:23 AM PST by Bernard ("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
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To: ml/nj

“Immigrant youths”=code for Islamonazi thugs.


8 posted on 12/02/2007 9:12:27 AM PST by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: ml/nj
"Given the weapons being used, it was lucky that nobody was killed,” said a policeman."

Don't worry officer. The Muslims will make sure that someone dies next time.

Here's a hint guys:

SNIPERS!

9 posted on 12/02/2007 9:13:09 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: ml/nj

They didn’t kill him? They must be moderates.


10 posted on 12/02/2007 9:15:50 AM PST by brewer1516
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To: ml/nj

Have the youts misunderestimated Sarkozy? Time for the rioters to be stunned by the reaction.


11 posted on 12/02/2007 9:16:12 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: ml/nj

They must have a lot of sand in Europe, because so many people seem to have their heads in it.


12 posted on 12/02/2007 9:18:16 AM PST by Windcatcher
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To: ml/nj

What is going on? Are there no men left in France? Hell, the LAPD would put this shiite down in one day.

C’mon Sarko, lock n’ load.

Regards


13 posted on 12/02/2007 9:23:23 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: AZLiberty
France is lucky to have Sarkozy rather than that Hillary-wanna-be.

Still waiting for Sarkozy to start cracking heads. Isn't this why he was elected?

14 posted on 12/02/2007 9:25:07 AM PST by Drew68
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To: NonValueAdded

Shoot the B-stards at the VERY FIRST sing of hostility.


15 posted on 12/02/2007 9:25:25 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

sing=sign


16 posted on 12/02/2007 9:26:05 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: NonValueAdded

“misunderestimated” quick! someone alert websters. we have a new word. :)


17 posted on 12/02/2007 9:27:30 AM PST by robomatik
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To: ml/nj

One more reason not to elect a democrat


18 posted on 12/02/2007 9:28:25 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: ml/nj

19 posted on 12/02/2007 9:30:10 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: All

The failure to call these thugs “Muslims” tells me there is no real effort to stop this

Even Fox News resident liberaltine Shep Smith, while grilling some liberal over this, refused to refer to the thugs as “Muslim”

Until we can truly and honestly identify who these thugs really are...this will never be solved. I think Sarkozy is still too Nutty Globalist to really want to deal with this...even though many Americans seem to like and respect him.


20 posted on 12/02/2007 9:30:32 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Kevin Smith for Heisman)
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To: ARE SOLE

“What is going on? Are there no men left in France? Hell, the LAPD would put this shiite down in one day.”

I don’t think so. You seem to have a short memory. Rodney King riots were not that long ago.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 9:30:46 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: robomatik
“misunderestimated” quick! someone alert websters. we have a new word. :)

Not to worry. Answers.com is already on it.

22 posted on 12/02/2007 9:31:37 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: ml/nj

“IN retrospect, it was not a good idea to have left his pistol at home. “

Remember Gaston Glock is your friend


23 posted on 12/02/2007 9:34:15 AM PST by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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To: ml/nj

I heard the other day on Spanish radio here that 80 police were seriously injured on the first or second night of rioting (i can’t remember which). I remember thinking, what a faggy country if that many police get their butts kicked by anything less than a heavily armed paramilitary group........yes I know the Spanish police (except for the Guardia Civil would get their butts kicked too, as they often do by one or two eastern european thugs, but France is the issue here)


24 posted on 12/02/2007 9:34:52 AM PST by freedom moose (acabarŕs xupant la teva polla imbčcil socialista)
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To: Enterprise

It’s long past time for the French to apply Rule 308 to a few of these guys.


25 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: cynwoody

oh. go figure.


26 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:31 AM PST by robomatik
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To: Haddit
You seem to have a short memory. Rodney King riots were not that long ago.

I remember the riots well. I worked in Compton at the time. I can assure you the LAPD have never, ever taken fire and not returned it.

During the riots the LAPD "leadership" refused to defend the public. But they always defend themselves.

Regards

27 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:37 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ARE SOLE
Hell, the LAPD would put this shiite down in one day.

That would be, um, the same LAPD that hid out in their stations during the Rodney King riots?

28 posted on 12/02/2007 9:38:50 AM PST by Timmy
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To: ARE SOLE

See post 27


29 posted on 12/02/2007 9:40:05 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Timmy

see post 27 por favor.


30 posted on 12/02/2007 9:40:41 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Bernard

Its more complicated than that.

1) France has a socialist culture since the early 1900s. They gave out huge pensions and enacted laws allowing early retirement. Realizing that it is not sustainable, they allowed immigration from Northern Africa to fill the labor void (SOMEBODY has to do the work).
2) Then the immigrants had children ... and no jobs were available!
3) Combine no jobs with African “culture” and then throw in Mullahs preaching hatred, and then you have ... Islam in Europe.

I blame this all on Socialism and the idiot Progressives. Embrace evil and cultures based on enslavement and violence towards women is JUST AS EVIL.

Hillary, are you listening?


31 posted on 12/02/2007 9:42:13 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: ARE SOLE

Maybe we should loan the French some Deputies and Korean grocery store owners.


32 posted on 12/02/2007 9:43:02 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Maybe we should loan the French some Deputies and Korean grocery store owners.

Now your talkin'. The Koreans stood up and stood out.

Regards

33 posted on 12/02/2007 9:44:41 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Timmy
They didn't hide in their stations.
They deployed to their stations.

OTOH a lot of Korean shopkeepers with shotguns avoided having their businesses burned down, all by themselves, thankyouverymuch...

34 posted on 12/02/2007 9:44:53 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: ml/nj

What they need is a Bradley with a 50cal. to open up on the mob with blanks. As everyone flees and then realizes that they were blanks, they can be told that tomm. night they will use live ammo? See if they get the picture?


35 posted on 12/02/2007 9:47:04 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: ml/nj

The French are stunned? Again?

They were stunned in 1914 and again in 1940. When will they learn.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 9:47:22 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: whitedog57

You know, I’m actually glad that I’ll be dead in twenty years. A Muslim Europe, a Spanish America, and socialists/communists ruling just about everywhere.

This is what the anti-federalists predicted. It took awhile but here it comes.


37 posted on 12/02/2007 9:47:31 AM PST by kjo
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To: ARE SOLE
Hell, the LAPD would put this shiite down in one day.

Yes, we saw what a fine job they did with the Rodney King riots...

38 posted on 12/02/2007 9:47:34 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Can you do me a favor and see post 27. Sheesh.


39 posted on 12/02/2007 9:48:53 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ml/nj

“France stunned by rioters’ savagery”

Who could possibly be stunned by these people’s conduct? Reminds me of Casablanca - “there’s gambling going on”

Anyone who is surprised by what these animals are doing has had their eyes closed for the last 30 years. It appears that government is failing to protect its people. Not just in France, the UK, Denmark, etc., but here as well. We have illegal aliens committing murders and rapes. People are eventually going to take matters into their own hands. These violent third world savages underestimate what Western people are capable of when pushed far enough.


40 posted on 12/02/2007 9:50:09 AM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: robomatik

“Misunderestimated” was a GWB malapropism, commonly used in a joking manner.

There was even a book (pro-Bush) called “Misunderestimated” written by Bill Sammon several years ago.

http://www.amazon.com/Misunderestimated-President-Battles-Terrorism-Haters/dp/0060723831


41 posted on 12/02/2007 9:51:42 AM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: ladyjane

You forgot 1812, 1815 and 1871.


42 posted on 12/02/2007 9:52:06 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: enough_idiocy
It appears that government is failing to protect its people

This is the point. Leadership failing the people. Defending the criminals and ignoring crimes against peaceful citizens.

Just like the "leadership" we saw in the LA. riots.

Regards

43 posted on 12/02/2007 9:53:33 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ml/nj
For 1375 years the world has been stunned by the savagry of Islam.

The only way this curse upon human history grew from a bizarre, obscure cult to torching 2007 Paris, was by forced conversion under threat of death.

Terror is the core feature of Islam, in contrast to all other religions.


44 posted on 12/02/2007 9:54:50 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (“If a tax cut increases government revenues, you haven’t cut taxes enough.” –Milton Friedman)
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To: ARE SOLE

I also remember our Firemen taking on fire without support. Maybe that is why when I went to my son’s graduation from the Los Angeles County fire department there were 22 out of 23 Iraq vets.


45 posted on 12/02/2007 9:56:15 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

These muslims are now being shipped to the United Staes, COMPLIMENTS of Tyson Foods.

GOT PORK??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932974/posts


46 posted on 12/02/2007 9:56:51 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: whitedog57

Hmmm, this sounds a bit familiar

“1) [The US] has [been sliding towards] a socialist culture since the early 19[4]0s. They g[i]ve out [handouts] and enact[] laws [favoring government dependency]. Realizing that it is not sustainable, they allowed [illegal]immigration from [Mexico] to fill the labor void (SOMEBODY has to do the work [for low pay]).
2) Then the immigrants had children .... Combine . . . that with [Mexican Laraza] “culture” and then throw in [liberals/Mexican revolutionary groups] preaching [reconsquest], and then you have ... [a ticking timebom] in [America].

I blame this all on Socialism and the idiot Progressives. Embrace evil and cultures based on enslavement and violence towards women is JUST AS EVIL.


47 posted on 12/02/2007 9:57:55 AM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: ARE SOLE

You are dreaming.... California lost all its men years ago. It is the La La land of milksop liberals.


48 posted on 12/02/2007 9:59:28 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Haddit

Haddit, my point was not that they did their job during the riots. Meaning deal with bad guys and defend good guys. I never even mentioned the riots, you did.

I simply meant that they always defend themselves. Unlike the police in France. But if you want to label them a bunch of cowards like what we are seeing in France. Go ahead, I don’t care.


49 posted on 12/02/2007 10:02:39 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Larry Lucido; All; Travis McGee; hiredhand

Coming to American and YOUR communities soon !

Monkey see monkey do syndrome in play.

In a riot always shoot the one out front. In combat always shoot the one in the back....rule 4.6b, subparagraph 3.2c

Stay safe !


50 posted on 12/02/2007 10:03:15 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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