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'I thought I was going to die' ( bear attack )
JUNEAU EMPIRE ^ | December 2, 2007 | KIM MARQUIS

Posted on 12/02/2007 9:24:01 AM PST by george76

Juneau man recounts Friday morning bear attack on Admiralty Island .

A "crack" in the brush. A split second to turn and see the bear. Another second to click the gun's safety off.

That's all the time Dr. John Raster had before the brown bear attacked him.

"I screamed and fired a shot into the air," he said. "It was already on me and the gun was still pretty much slung around my shoulder. He bit me and started scratching me and pushed me down into the water."

The Juneau doctor had been walking alone Friday morning along a stretch of beach on Admiralty Island, just a few hundreds yards from a cabin where he stayed with a hunting party.

"I thought it was my neck," he said. "I thought I was going to die ... I was afraid it was going to eat me and drag me into the woods."

He may have lost consciousness or been stunned, but a few minutes passed before he realized he was soaked through and cold.

Thursday night they heard a bear outside the cabin popping its teeth and breaking branches...

Friday afternoon, they packed up and took a floatplane back to Juneau.

(Excerpt) Read more at juneauempire.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; attacked; banglist; bear; bearattack; bearattacks; brownbear; brownbearattacked; grizzly; grizzlybear; grizzlybears; hunting; maul; sss; usfws; wildlife
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He must have forgotten his little brass bells ?

/s

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1 posted on 12/02/2007 9:24:02 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
"I screamed and fired a shot into the air,"

Lemme guess - the air was not what was attacking him.

2 posted on 12/02/2007 9:30:53 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: george76
Always kill the bear first then deal with the Fish and Game idiots later at your leisure time.
3 posted on 12/02/2007 9:34:41 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: george76; kanawa

popping its teeth?


4 posted on 12/02/2007 9:34:58 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: y'all; kanawa
kanawa!

Legendary [FR]

5 posted on 12/02/2007 9:38:20 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Last Dakotan; fanfan; Eska; redpoll; ASOC

This guy fired into the air, too ?

Authorities believe a Calgary hunter killed by a grizzly near Sundre went down fighting, firing his weapon before dying.

An autopsy conducted on Don Peters, 51, of Calgary, yesterday confirmed the city hunter died as a result of a grizzly bear attack and an investigation at the scene concluded Peters fired his hunting rifle before being killed, said RCMP Sgt. Patrick Webb.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/2007/11/30/4696926-sun.html


6 posted on 12/02/2007 9:41:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The bear was stressed....was the Wildlife Agency's explanation of the attack. It seems the bear's therapists go into hibernation every winter also.

The article didn't mention that the good doctor was wearing bells or was armed with the lethal pepper spray.

7 posted on 12/02/2007 9:43:03 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: george76
"I screamed and fired a shot into the air," he said.

Needs more range time, or get his sights aligned properly.

Seriously, what a jerk.

9 posted on 12/02/2007 9:49:27 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64

or get his sights removed so it will not hurt so much for when the bear...


10 posted on 12/02/2007 9:53:27 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Things happen so quickly. Usually the bear charges out of nearby cover. We’ve had several incidents this hunting season in NW Montana.

In one the hunter fired his rifle from the hip and the 600 lb Grizzly passed to his side. Afterwards he found a deer carcass the bear had been feeding on. The next day the carcass had been moved and buried in another location.

In another incident a mountain lion jumped on a hunter’s back. He dropped his rifle, but managed to get a shot off with his pistol, which was enough to scare the cat off.

In another instance a hunter was taking a dump, when a Grizzly came out of the brush, knocked him over and held him down. He couldn’t get his 44 out of the holster because his belt was loose. The bear released him and left.

In another instance a Grizzly charged 2 hunters, who deterred it with pepper spray. The bear came back for another go and they shot it.


11 posted on 12/02/2007 10:04:07 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: george76
or get his sights removed so it will not hurt so much for when the bear...

Yup. Forensics would be working with the proctologist.

12 posted on 12/02/2007 10:06:44 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Baynative
We went bear hunting and took our sons,age 6 and 4. The boys and I stayed at the lodge while my husband hunted. He got his bear and while the bear was hanging up and awaiting being skinned I had my boys each hold a paw while I took pictures. The boys screamed and cried. Afterward I apologized for making them hold the paws because obviously they were very sad that the bear was dead.

They said “no mom we were crying because the bear was so stinky”.

13 posted on 12/02/2007 10:14:27 AM PST by Ditter
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To: claudiustg

Warning shots into the air at such a close range is not good.


14 posted on 12/02/2007 10:17:40 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I lived in Alaska for more than 30 years, including Juneau. A well known and often used joke said to persons depending on a handgun for bear protection was “Good choice, you’ll be able to stick it in your mouth and kill yourself before the bear reaches you.”


15 posted on 12/02/2007 10:19:27 AM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Cobra64

“It was already on me and the gun was still pretty much slung around my shoulder.”

Superman could twirl around in a phone booth while changing clothes.
The rest of us are a bit slower.


16 posted on 12/02/2007 10:27:11 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Life is Good!)
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To: george76

A bear can cover 20 yards in less than two seconds - with his camera in hand and rifle slung over his shoulder, he surprisingly was able to fire a shot. I lived in Juneau for 24 years and know this doc from a few appointments with him - nice guy, good physician. We hunted the Seymour
Canal area many times and there are plenty of brown bears -this one could have had a deer carcass nearby, which are in short supply after last winter’s devastating snowfall (16 feet plus) which shrank the Sitka blacktail population in a big way.


17 posted on 12/02/2007 10:29:00 AM PST by dainbramaged (the tree of liberty needs watering)
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To: Ditter

lOL.....ah great children stories.....”Look mom! This is the dogs paw! Can we hang it from the mirror??”


18 posted on 12/02/2007 10:29:18 AM PST by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Bogtrotter52

City liberals often say...He should have had his little brass bells to warn the bear.


19 posted on 12/02/2007 10:31:11 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LucyT; GMMAC; proud_yank; Montana Headlines; fish hawk; RightWhale; Calpernia; Troublemaker; ...

Peters was out hunting big game over the weekend in a heavily wooded area near Mount-Aire Lodge west of Sundre, about 90 km northwest of Calgary, when he failed to return home on Sunday afternoon.

He was found Wednesday after an intensive three-day search.

Signs at the scene show Peters was likely killed Sunday but that the hunter, despite having fired his high-powered rifle before the attack, likely didn’t hit the bruin that killed him, said Alberta Sustainable Resource Development spokesman Dave Ealey.

“There is no evidence of a blood trail from the bear, or any other signs that the bear is wounded,”


20 posted on 12/02/2007 10:41:07 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Other funny story....or it could be a “choking doberman” style urban legend. State park close to Anchorage near Chugiak some years ago. Rangers posted signs warning of very touchy sow and young being reported in the hiking trail area. “proceed at own risk” advice on signs. Apparently a older woman and her 20+ son saw the signs and she commented to others around at the time that they “understood bears” and being so were therefore in no danger. Of course, as the story goes, what was found later in the park was only what had not been converted into bear droppings.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 10:49:41 AM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: dainbramaged
A bear can cover 20 yards in less than two seconds - with his camera in hand and rifle slung over his shoulder, he surprisingly was able to fire a shot. I lived in Juneau for 24 years and know this doc from a few appointments with him - nice guy, good physician. We hunted the Seymour Canal area many times and there are plenty of brown bears -this one could have had a deer carcass nearby, which are in short supply after last winter’s devastating snowfall (16 feet plus) which shrank the Sitka blacktail population in a big way.

Sounds like the bear was protecting his turf = which he relies on for survival - including the deer the hunters were taking.

He politely gave them a polite warning with his signature popping of teeth and snapping branches. This not working, next day, he gave a more drastic warning to get out of my hunting grounds... He could easily have finished the job and dragged the guy off for supper -

22 posted on 12/02/2007 10:53:03 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: george76

“He grabbed the 6 mm rifle out of the water, jammed another cartridge into it and watched the woods.”

Pretty puny rifle for walkin’ around in bear country, IMO.

Semper Fi,


23 posted on 12/02/2007 10:55:57 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

6 mm rifle ...noise maker for warning bears ?


24 posted on 12/02/2007 11:00:14 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
I surprised a whitetail buck at about 15 yards. I shot him as he tried to sneak off through cover. If it had been a bear, coming for me, I doubt I’d have gotten off a shot, much less an aimed shot.

This year I was carrying my 7mm Rem Mag. Last year I carried a 243 Win. I don’t know any hunters that carry heavy caliber “bear guns” to hunt deer, even though we’re thick with bears up here.

Last year I came on a black bear while hunting grouse with a 28ga shotgun. He was munching on what appeared to be a part of a deer. Luckily, I saw him at some distance and was able to observe him as he ignored me. I was carrying a 44 as well, but it wouldn’t do me much good if I stumbled over a bear trying to kick up some grouse in cover.

25 posted on 12/02/2007 11:21:16 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: george76; kanawa
REAL Men aren't afraid of bears! :)


26 posted on 12/02/2007 11:22:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: stainlessbanner

bump!!!


27 posted on 12/02/2007 11:22:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: george76

I never had probs with grizz, they pretty much stay above treeline; and when I have seen them; I respect the heck outta them. I sent some claws to a buddy a few years back and he made a necklace, which he thought was too cool. Now and then they break into fish shacks come spring.

We are now allowed to bait grizz with buckets of fish guts in trees; draws them in. Their pops have really put a hurtin on the moose. If they would permit sale of bear parts to chinese; entire bear problem would go away quick. I hear grizz hides with claws are bringing 800 bucks untanned.

Have been stalked twice by blk bear; came in on me crawling with front quarters down like a cat would a rabbit; ears twittlin back and forth like crazy; what I really remember. So I kinda watch the blk bears good too as they all don’t run from man up in Alaska.


28 posted on 12/02/2007 11:24:04 AM PST by Eska ( the re)
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To: george76

Next time, all he has to do is lay down and then sing to the bear. This always works.


29 posted on 12/02/2007 11:27:39 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Cobra64

A “crack” in the brush. A split second to turn and see the bear. Another second to click the gun’s safety off.

That’s all the time Dr. John Raster had before the brown bear attacked him.

“I screamed and fired a shot into the air,” he said. “It was already on me and the gun was still pretty much slung around my shoulder.


He wasn’t aiming for the air, doesn’t anyone read the article?


30 posted on 12/02/2007 11:27:43 AM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Bogtrotter52

Why not shoot the guy next to you in the knee and run?


31 posted on 12/02/2007 11:30:50 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Eska

“...came in on me crawling with front quarters down like a cat would a rabbit; ears twittlin back and forth like crazy;”

LOL! Good one! I wonder what the black market price for gall bladders is/are/am these days? I recall there was a real market for that. I take it you are or have been in Alaska? Fomerly of Fairbanks, Sitka, and Juneau myself. ‘74 to ‘03.


32 posted on 12/02/2007 11:53:01 AM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: U S Army EOD

“Zactly” Used in this way, I’ve heard that a .22 LR is the best bear medicine.


33 posted on 12/02/2007 12:00:29 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Baynative

“They were trying to get into the other tent, maybe smelling food.”

Keeping food in a tent in any bear country is just asking for trouble.


34 posted on 12/02/2007 12:07:44 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Ditter

“We went bear hunting and took our sons,age 6 and 4”

You horrible person, brainwashing young children into a culture of death and savagery. Social Services should take your kids away, lest they forever have bad dreams of gore and violence.

/PETA rant.


35 posted on 12/02/2007 12:10:57 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Eagles6

Make sure and use a hollow point so there will be plenty of blood. Bears like that.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 12:25:51 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Hmm... I’ll make a note.


37 posted on 12/02/2007 12:27:53 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

If you are the guy that gets shot, make sure and sing to the bear. I heard that works but not always.


38 posted on 12/02/2007 12:30:10 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: claudiustg

My biggest fear in bear county is that one gets the drop on me while I am taking care of business. I am so crazy about it I draw my gun and keep it my hand when involved. Buddies all think I am nuts, so your story is timely. I also keep a long knife handy as the third line of defense.


39 posted on 12/02/2007 12:34:56 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: Eagles6
Maybe, but I never go into bear country with something that doesn’t start with a 4.
40 posted on 12/02/2007 12:36:54 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: george76
Sounds like he needed one of these:


41 posted on 12/02/2007 12:40:17 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Dude, where's my adrenaline?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

That would be wise.


42 posted on 12/02/2007 12:42:16 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for reposting my picture. That was a fun thread!


43 posted on 12/02/2007 1:08:55 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

bump!

Kanawa will forever be a legend.


44 posted on 12/02/2007 1:12:44 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The fact that bears get the jump on deer all the time ought to clue folks in.


45 posted on 12/02/2007 1:37:05 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: Calpernia

Fella from up this way killed a Brownie with a folding Buck knife a couple of years back. A lot of folks thught he was telling a wopper - till the hide went on auction.

The fellow wielding the knife was 68 Y/O.

You could clearly see the puncture wounds and slashs on the bears neck.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-16615.html

Same thing happen down B.C way this year - 3.5 in Buck folder vs a Griz. The man ‘won’.

Me? I carry a 12 ga.


46 posted on 12/02/2007 1:57:24 PM PST by ASOC
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To: ASOC

Real Hunters Bump!


47 posted on 12/02/2007 1:59:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: claudiustg

In another instance a hunter was taking a dump, when a Grizzly came out of the brush, knocked him over and held him down. He couldn’t get his 44 out of the holster because his belt was loose. The bear released him and left.


Whoa! I would have crapped my...

Never mind.


48 posted on 12/02/2007 2:01:01 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: claudiustg

“In another instance a hunter was taking a dump, when a Grizzly came out of the brush, knocked him over and held him down. He couldn’t get his 44 out of the holster because his belt was loose. The bear released him and left.”

Don’t tell me, let me guess - the hunter never walked the same afterwards. Adds new meaning to ‘broken open like a shotgun’.


49 posted on 12/02/2007 2:08:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: claudiustg

Good point. They are sneaky devils


50 posted on 12/02/2007 3:14:23 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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