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Immigration stance may be what turns many red states blue says LINDA CHAVEZ
The Dallas Morning News ^ | October 8, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 12/02/2007 3:32:48 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Republicans need all the votes they can get next November if they are to have any hope of retaining the White House and winning back control of Congress. But one group of voters – among whom the GOP has gained considerable ground over the last few elections – now seems about to slip away, perhaps permanently.

Hispanic voters are poised to turn several red states blue come 2008, virtually guaranteeing a Democratic presidential victory and a pickup in congressional seats as well, according to a new analysis of Hispanic voting behavior. "Border Wars: The Impact of Immigration on the Latino Vote," released by the conservative Americas Majority Foundation, demonstrates that congressional Republicans' ham-handed approach to immigration will cost them dearly at the polls.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; collaborators; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invaders; lindachavez; purplestates; quislings
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1 posted on 12/02/2007 3:32:49 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

I admire Chavez but when it comes to how Americans (both born and naturalized) feel about criminal aliens she is stone blind.


2 posted on 12/02/2007 3:34:31 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Clintonfatigued

I live in a blue state and in the last election we tossed our open borders RINO out on his butt and replaced him with an anti amnesty conservative republican.


3 posted on 12/02/2007 3:34:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Consider the source and take this info for what it’s worth...


4 posted on 12/02/2007 3:34:48 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: T.L.Sink; EternalVigilance; Borax Queen; SandRat; ExTexasRedhead; Republican Red; AuntB; ...

I think that Chavez is correct- illegal aliens are contributing to the Democrats’ electoral victories in histocially unfriendly territory.


5 posted on 12/02/2007 3:34:53 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I'm thinking she is 180 degrees out of phase.

I believe the exact opposite of what she has written.

6 posted on 12/02/2007 3:35:26 PM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Is Linda still beating this dead horse?

Making millions of illegals citizens and/or giving them then the right to vote will make the GOP go into extinction.


7 posted on 12/02/2007 3:36:21 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Clintonfatigued

WHOOPS!

BIG TIME ERROR ON MY PART!

If Republicans don’t stand their ground on border security, they’ll lose elections and deserve to.


9 posted on 12/02/2007 3:37:40 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The link is broken.


10 posted on 12/02/2007 3:37:44 PM PST by 3_wheeler (Freedom Isn't Free (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservative_americans))
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To: Clintonfatigued

Imagine, some dame named”Linda Chavez” supporting the illegal agenda.
Along with Rino Rudy and all the damn dems.


11 posted on 12/02/2007 3:39:39 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: lapster

Good thing she likes to employ illegals under the table or she’d be Madame Secretary Chavez.


12 posted on 12/02/2007 3:40:54 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clintonfatigued

She’s got it backwards.


13 posted on 12/02/2007 3:43:16 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Clintonfatigued

I wrote Chavez off as anyone to take seriously last summer when she came out with her ridiculous accusations and slurs against those who want immigration laws enforced. And she just can’t let go of her sanctimonious preaching and posturing. Not anyone whose opinions I’m interested in.


14 posted on 12/02/2007 3:43:40 PM PST by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued

That is an argument to see immigration and casual citizenship, including dual citizenship that is common today as a national threat.


15 posted on 12/02/2007 3:50:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: pabianice
I admire Chavez but when it comes to how Americans (both born and naturalized) feel about criminal aliens she is stone blind.
Well said. I agree with you 100%.
16 posted on 12/02/2007 3:52:25 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Clintonfatigued
I would think blue states would be turning red over the immigration issue!

I guess she better switch parties because she'd feel right at home with the left on the issue of immigration.

Was good to know ya, Linda!

17 posted on 12/02/2007 3:52:32 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: All
Americas Majority Foundation? Are they one them "socialize the cost, privatize the profits" conservative groups? As one author describes low-paid, taxpayer-subsidized migrants (legal and ILLEGAL) doing "jobs that Americans won't do."

[I got a "page not found" message]

Ms Chavez can scream "Bigot!" "Nativist!" "Xenophobe!" until she turns blue for all I care.

How does she get off saying that Americans of Hispanic descent cheer lawbreaking? Who are her friends?

18 posted on 12/02/2007 3:53:33 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Immigration stance may be what turns many red states blue says LINDA CHAVEZ

Snort. Tell it to Eliot Spitzer.

20 posted on 12/02/2007 3:55:32 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Linda Chavez is suffering from beltway disease.

LEGAL IMMIGRANTS RESENT ILLEGALS.

Illegals don’t vote LEGAL CITIZEN IMMIGRANTS vote. (at least leagally mr. algore)

Chavez is doing the same intoxicant dance as mccain.

too much univision not enough reality.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 3:56:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Chavez”

For 200 years, American grew to be the most powerful country in history without listening to anyone named Chavez.

We need not start now.


22 posted on 12/02/2007 3:57:18 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Clintonfatigued

She it way out of touch. The most out of touch people with the American people on the planet are those who hold elected office and serve in Washington. Even those clowns were in enough touch to understand that Jorge Bush-Teddy Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration had a very high political price.


23 posted on 12/02/2007 3:57:32 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’ve had it with Chavez. She’s a RINO, and I skip over her articles now.


24 posted on 12/02/2007 3:58:51 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: pabianice

I used to get requests for political contributions from Linda, as much as I admire her, I was finally forced to add a note to her literature and return it to her. She is wrong, wrong, wrong, and seems just as hellbent on destruction (on the immigrant issue) as our President. What is the problem? They just can’t grasp the FACTS. American CITIZENS do not want amnesty, but they continue in their state of denial.

Perhaps she’s polled all the ILLEGALS in those “red” states. She forgets, THEY DON’T COUNT-—and they’d better not be voting! (Does anyone know how, or when, Linda’s parents got here?)


25 posted on 12/02/2007 3:59:55 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: Will88
I wrote Chavez off as anyone to take seriously last summer when she came out with her ridiculous accusations and slurs against those who want immigration laws enforced. And she just can’t let go of her sanctimonious preaching and posturing. Not anyone whose opinions I’m interested in.

Not to mention the 25MIL plus she has bummed off of people for political purposes, and spent the most of it on herself and family.

26 posted on 12/02/2007 4:07:06 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: pabianice

Correction: Immigration issue is what may turned blue states red.


27 posted on 12/02/2007 4:08:04 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: AmericanInTokyo
She lost me months ago when she accused anti-immigration people of being racists.

She needs to take her whining elsewhere.

Most Republicans are not going to compromise on this issue....even if she's related to most of those crossing from Mexico! LOL

28 posted on 12/02/2007 4:11:38 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: Clintonfatigued
Ham-handed??

In the 90’s Bill Bennett and Jack Kemp swooped into CA after the Prop 186 was passed, and proceeded to make a speech calling Californians RACISTS.

Now THAT was ham-handed!

29 posted on 12/02/2007 4:12:45 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, yeah! They caused such a calamity when they boycotted the stores, too.


30 posted on 12/02/2007 4:13:04 PM PST by GingisK
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To: moondoggie
They are all in it for the money.

Chavez is no different.

It is bordering on outright treason if you ask me.

They want to destroy the country, from the privileged and safe sanctuary of their gated communities, where they lord it over the unwashed masses in flyover country who have to put up with their reprehensible border policies where the real word rubber meets the road on a daily basis at the grassroots of America. They are SO out of touch!!

31 posted on 12/02/2007 4:15:19 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (McCain? Giuliani? Huckabee? Mitt? All UNACCEPTABLE on Illegal Immigration as Sellouts or Newcomers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Christine Todd Whitless for the Hispanic set.


32 posted on 12/02/2007 4:16:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Hispanic voters are poised to turn several red states blue come 2008, virtually guaranteeing a Democratic presidential victory and a pickup in congressional seats as well,

And you want us to give amnesty to 20 million and let all their relatives in too? Geez, that will kill the republican party forever.

33 posted on 12/02/2007 4:20:08 PM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Hispanic voters are poised to turn several red states blue come 2008

If illegals vote illegally

34 posted on 12/02/2007 4:21:14 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Clintonfatigued
She also stated that FRED THOMPSON will be out of the race after Iowa! FRED had no chance...don’t waste our time!

Another RINO is this party.

35 posted on 12/02/2007 4:21:23 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Another one of the Inside the Beltway folks who labeled whomever disagreed with Amnesty as a “Racist” she can take her .02 cents and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine As far as I’m concerned.

You cannot slap the people you are slandering then try to offer advice Ms. Chavez.

No thanks. sell that crap somewhere else.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 4:23:45 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Karl Rove’s theory that there is an emerging Hispanic majority was the basis for what got W. into trouble about immigration to begin with. They are delusional if they think that Latinos are going to become Republicans. Maybe the more successful business owners who speak English and can assimilate will but the average undereducated Spanish-speaking blue collar worker isn’t going to go there.


37 posted on 12/02/2007 4:32:21 PM PST by MHT
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To: pabianice
She's only being pragmatic about political reality.

In the end, she will be spot on....

The party changed direction after much groundwork was layed by Reagan, GHWB and GWB. They new what it would take to beat the Dem's and both opened up the big tent Republican party. They all three took heat from the base and Conservative writers for it.

They were right. Conservatives were wrong but they don't yet know it and may never accept it.

I''m afraid the return to 30 years in the minority wilderness is certain because of what has been done by conservatives acting out in a populist manner with no thought to the consequences. They even called what they were doing....principled. But don't they all. History is replete with principled political stupidity.

38 posted on 12/02/2007 4:37:01 PM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: Bobbisox

She’s just trying to stay important. I also wonder what she is getting out of her hysterical rants?


39 posted on 12/02/2007 4:37:55 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: MHT

“Karl Rove’s theory that there is an emerging Hispanic majority was the basis for what got W. into trouble about immigration to begin with.”

Yes, and many Americans know that means “if demographic trends continue.” If we’d enforce our immigration laws and talk no more of amnesties, that emerging majority would never emerge, much to the disappointment of Linda Chavez, I’d guess.


40 posted on 12/02/2007 4:39:15 PM PST by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued

EVERY legal immigrant whom I know is mad at the Republican Party - for not taking a STRONGER stance against illegal immigration!

It is pure racism to associate legal hispanic immigrants with illegals and to assume that legal hispanic immigrants side with illegal immigration. Of course, that’s what I expect out of the left, so there are no surprises here.

BTW, there is one way Chavez may be right: If illegals vote in sufficient numbers, then the Donks will win some of these states. But the Donks wouldn’t stoop to such illegal activity and voter fraud, would they? /sarc


41 posted on 12/02/2007 4:41:04 PM PST by piytar
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To: Clintonfatigued
I think that Chavez is correct- illegal aliens are contributing
to the Democrats’ electoral victories in histocially unfriendly territory.


I won't be suprised if we someday find that contributions from
grateful illegals, coyotes and drug runners have kept the RNC
from running dry on contributions.
Yeah, I know that's a 'beyond the fringe' thought.
42 posted on 12/02/2007 4:41:59 PM PST by VOA
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To: Clintonfatigued

She’s as bad as geraldo. She calls anybody who opposes illegal immigration a “racist”. I lost all respect for her when she went race-baiter.


43 posted on 12/02/2007 4:43:03 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: capt. norm

Believe what you want, and sound like a DUer doing it, as if “I believe” is the pinnacle of logic.

Facts are facts, no matter what you want to believe.


44 posted on 12/02/2007 4:43:13 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Will88
I wrote Chavez off as anyone to take seriously last summer when
she came out with her ridiculous accusations and slurs against those
who want immigration laws enforced.


I agree.
And suspect that's why this article is linked from The Dallas
Morning News (pretty liberal/nutty for Texas)
45 posted on 12/02/2007 4:44:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: Clintonfatigued

On Fox News, after the YouTube debate they had a focus group and were analyzing reactions to candidates speeches. Whenever anyone made a pro-illegal comment, reactions were poor.


46 posted on 12/02/2007 4:45:10 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Americans should start a fund to have the immigration laws enforced....
Please contact Americans to Remove the Illegals at
NO-AMNESTY Get er done for less, is our motto. No home flights, Buses will do just fine. We even weld up the screens to keep the driver and guards separated from the criminals. OSHA does keep making us keep the back-door, on the bus, unlocked. It hard to keep 'em on the bus, when we stop. Believe me, our organization is working on that. All donations accepted..... (DO NOT CALL, it's a fake number for all who find themselves in Rio-Taco). I tried to make a funny....didn't suceed.....
47 posted on 12/02/2007 4:46:34 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: Cold Heat

“I’’m afraid the return to 30 years in the minority wilderness is certain because of what has been done by conservatives acting out in a populist manner with no thought to the consequences. They even called what they were doing....principled. But don’t they all. History is replete with principled political stupidity.”

If the Republican returns to 30 years in the minority wilderness, they will have been ‘led’ there by Jorge Bush and Karl Rove, and their stupid forcing of the amnesty/open borders issue. Jorge tried to get this through the House since 2001, and was turned back year-after-year. Polls have shown for years that 70% plus of US citizens are opposed to the non-enforcement of immigration policies, and even the high, 1,000,000+, legal immigration. Bush and Rove were fools to continue pushing their amnesty nonsense when the majority of all US citizens so clearly did not want it. It is they who have damaged the party, and they will be responsible for whatever happens in the next few elections. How stupid of them to force and force such a divisive issue, especially with so little likelihood that poor, new immigrants will become Republicans.

As I said, 70% plus of US citizens have opposed what Jorge/Rove wanted since 1986 and before. There is still an unanswered question: will the voters finally make immigration their vote deciding issue? If so, Republicans will have surprising success in 2008. If not, the stupidity of Jorge and Rove will be largely to blame for any hard times that befall Republicans.

“See you at the bill signing.”


48 posted on 12/02/2007 4:51:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued

The ‘study’ she cites uses Randy Graf as an example, without pointing out that the RNC campaigned for one of his opponents IN THE PRIMARY, and withheld funding during the general election.

I’m guessing we would also have fewer Republicans in office if the RNC regularly aided the Democrats.

In news accounts, Graf was portrayed as someone who would pull mothers and babies out of their homes at midnight and beat them before tossing them over the border. It takes money to oppose this slander - but instead, the RNC encouraged it!

I will never, ever give a penny to the RNC again. And examples like this bias the report.


49 posted on 12/02/2007 4:51:22 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: Xenalyte
Believe what you want, and sound like a DUer doing it, as if “I believe” is the pinnacle of logic.

Facts are facts, no matter what you want to believe.

In other words, you think the pro-illegal immigration forces will turn this election over to the liberals?

I don't think so. Watch what happens.

50 posted on 12/02/2007 4:55:27 PM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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