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Former spy chief urges oil cutback [R. James Woolsey]
Miami Herald ^ | Sunday, December 2, 2007 | Jane Bussey

Posted on 12/02/2007 10:44:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv

"We should not just try to import less oil," the former CIA director under former President Clinton told a Miami audience Sunday. "We should destroy oil as a strategic commodity" that allows oil exporting nations to hold monopoly power... Woolsey's wide-ranging speech went from describing how Americans' dollars at the gas pumps made their way to fundamentalist Islamic institutions to illustrating advances in solar energy technology that make it more efficient and affordable... Among his suggestions was California's decision to decouple energy company profits from sales two decades ago, keeping the state's electricity consumption flat while the rest of the states have experienced a 60 percent increase. He also cited Wal-Mart for reducing electricity consumption by 20 percent to 25 percent at its stores, a giant savings considering that 70 percent of the world's electricity is used by buildings other than homes... Woolsey also made a pitch for new battery-powered, flex-fuel cars that could be recharged during off-peak periods of electricity costs... On the malignant side, oil and coal consumption are contributing to global warming, which could accelerate at any point. The U.S. electricity grid and world oil supplies also face threats from terrorists and not just glitches that can now cause massive power outages in the interconnected grid.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: energy; energypolicy; oil; opec; rjameswoolsey; woolsey; wot
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To: Nathan Zachary
Were all such suckers, aren't we?
21 posted on 12/02/2007 11:44:34 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Oil, coal, we could easily replace them all with a few nuclear power plants. The problem is our old and crumbling electricity grid, under attack for decades now by enviro-terrorists, is already overtaxed, and needs to be upgraded and expanded to meet our near future needs, and it has to start happening yesterday.

As far as oil goes, we use it for many things, plastics, industrial products, and of course automotive. We can only reduce that demand by so much, but we can compliment it with biological based fuels, which will extend our own supplies of the earth’s Abiotic oil production far into the future.


22 posted on 12/02/2007 11:48:02 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: SunkenCiv

“On the malignant side, oil and coal consumption are contributing to global warming...”

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This statement negates everything else he said.


23 posted on 12/02/2007 11:54:28 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Nathan Zachary
Nuclear power can supply more of our needs.
But we are behind. Thank the enviro's and Mr peanut.

Thirty years later and no disasters?

As far as oil is concerned, There is no crisis...

It’s all made up to manipulate the market.

24 posted on 12/02/2007 11:56:10 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
"But what would happen to the Kennedy oil business? Hard Times for Teddy and clan?"

Aww, poor Teddy. Maybe he should get into the alcohol fuel business. Lord knows he drinks enough of it himself to keep a small distilling company profitable.

Back to Chavez, yep, I get it. Unfortunately too many of our politicians have shares in Citgo, so they put their business above that of the nation, which should see them impeached.

25 posted on 12/02/2007 11:56:11 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: DaveTesla
"As far as oil is concerned, There is no crisis... It’s all made up to manipulate the market.

Absolutely. "Dry oil wells mysteriously refill themselves too, but this part of the world is in serious denial of where oil really comes from. They still think all this biomass (trillions of dinosaurs) somehow got buried 10 miles under the earths outer granite crust. Yet the earth keeps spitting out new oil in the darnedest of places. They don't really have to drill for oil, they just find where the leaks are. The Russians have figured it out. And we have some of the best rock (part of the Canadian shield) which has rock oil supplies beyond our wildest dreams.

26 posted on 12/03/2007 12:06:30 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
At least we know he will never cut off his own refineries
which would cause a crisis in Venezuela.

Traitors, you bet!

How Teddy Kennedy Hampered Reagan's Cold War Efforts

Teddy using the KGB to betray Regan?
Never /s
27 posted on 12/03/2007 12:06:43 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I have to get some sleep.

Have a good one.


28 posted on 12/03/2007 12:10:51 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
"The largest oil reserves in the world are hiding in Alaska ".

Yo Dave! Hold up ... Is this a Steve Mcgarrett type hunch or do you have a stronger basis for this theory than Miss Cleo told you that?

Regards

29 posted on 12/03/2007 12:13:48 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: DaveTesla
It’s all made up to manipulate the market.

============================================

And the lumpenproletariat.


"Dance, my little puppets, dance!"

30 posted on 12/03/2007 12:16:51 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Nathan Zachary
They don't last very long, about 5 years before they need replacing

Then why do they routinely come with 25 year warrany I wonder?

Regards

31 posted on 12/03/2007 12:17:45 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ARE SOLE
warrany = warranty. ... Doh!
32 posted on 12/03/2007 12:20:17 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: SunkenCiv
Woolsey also made a pitch for new battery-powered, flex-fuel cars that could be recharged during off-peak periods of electricity costs...
That's a great idea. How 'bout you perfect that concept in California and then get back to us on that, eh?

Seriously, what amps are necessary to "fuel" all of these vehicles throughout an average subdivision (let alone an urban area)? Can California keep the lights on 24/7/4.3/12 as things are? Even so, electric cars are purported to be a good thing though, eh?

33 posted on 12/03/2007 12:22:02 AM PST by raygun ("It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence")
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To: ARE SOLE
Based on the geological formations that are present in Alaska (and throughout the Canadian north) conditions which rock oil is formed, suggests that there is vast amounts of oil and gas reserves waiting to be tapped into. The plus is those rock formations are closer to the surface in that region, so it's possible to drill into it. Otherwise rock oil is too deep for present drilling methods, so cracks (faults) where it seeps up into fields closer to the surface have to be found. Abiotic (rock oil) is continuously being formed deep in the earth.

The Statistical Thermodynamics of Petroleum Science

34 posted on 12/03/2007 12:28:41 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ARE SOLE
“Then why do they routinely come with 25 year warranty I wonder?”

Check back with me when you can get the battery in your cell phone, let alone the battery in anything you own to last that long.

35 posted on 12/03/2007 12:29:49 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: raygun
"Seriously, what amps are necessary to "fuel" all of these vehicles throughout an average subdivision (let alone an urban area)? Can California keep the lights on 24/7/4.3/12 as things are? Even so, electric cars are purported to be a good thing though, eh?"

The average American doesn't even know how many dimes there are in a dollar, never mind expect them to figure out that one of those cars with a 180 volt, 1200 amp/hr output battery would really dim the lights if they tried to charge that up in less than 8 hrs.

They think they can buy one of those solar chargers you buy at costco and plug into the cigarette lighter and it will charge that baby up.

I saw a news report a week or so ago where these 'brilliant" univercity engineering students were replacing a prius battery with a dry cell Nicad type battery so they could plug it in at the student parking lot and charge up the battery (for free) while they were in class, so the engine wouldn't have to run at all driving to school and back home every day.

Imagine a student parking lot full of prius's all trying to charge their batteries from the service in a parking lot, (which is on a 35 amp breaker) and expecting to get that juice for free.

Idiots.

I bet when they found out their lame brain idea wouldn't work, they were awfully embarrassed that news story aired.

36 posted on 12/03/2007 12:40:21 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ARE SOLE
"Then why do they routinely come with 25 year warrany I wonder?"

let me know where you can buy solar panels with a 25 year warranty. I'll go buy some to replace my dead ones.

37 posted on 12/03/2007 12:43:39 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: yankeedame
It is quite simple:

Don't allow any new refineries to be built for 25 years

Outlaw the drilling for oil in the Gulf and Alaska.

Me thinks its this thing called supply and demand. (spoken in a dumb voice)

Meanwhile declare ANWHR a nature preserve and try to hand it off to the U.N.
I'll let you form your own opinions:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Parks+under+control+of+the+united+nations&btnG=Search


You do realize your all being had don't you?

38 posted on 12/03/2007 12:43:50 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: yankeedame

Why else do you think they declared a frozen wasteland where it is dark six months of the year a nature preserve.

Since when is ice considered nature?


39 posted on 12/03/2007 12:47:59 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

17% of our daily consumption of oil comes to around 3.6 million barrels of oil.

What untapped offshore sources of oil could replace that oil if that could be done how long would it last?


40 posted on 12/03/2007 12:54:16 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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