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[Senator] Craig's List Is Lengthening
ABC News ^ | Dec. 03, 2007 | By CHRIS FRANCESCANI and SCOTT MICHELS

Posted on 12/03/2007 10:49:57 AM PST by jdm

Craig's list of accusers is lengthening.

Two men, including a former male escort, have confirmed to ABC News allegations that they had sexual encounters with Idaho's embattled Sen. Larry Craig.

Mike Jones, 50, told ABC News, Craig paid him $200 for sex during the winter of 2004-2005.

A second man, a 50-year old former Army captain, also told ABC News, that Craig made sexual advances towards him in the men's room of a Republican gathering in Washington state in 1981.

The men were two of eight new people who claimed encounters with Craig in an article published Sunday by the Idaho Statesman newspaper.

Senator Craig released a statement today calling the accusations "completely false." He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. "I will not let this paper's attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho."

Both men who talked to ABC News said they were frustrated with what they saw as the senator's continuing "hypocrisy'' about his sexuality. Craig has a history as a Republican legislator of opposing gay marriage and gay rights.

Jones, the former male escort, also said he was paid to have sex with Rev.Ted Haggard, who first denied, then admitted to the encounter. In Nov. 2006, Haggard resigned as president of the National Evangelical Association.

Four men have identified themselves publicly to the newspaper and claimed to have had sexual encounters with Craig, and four more men have made claims but refused to allow their names to be used.

Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct after he was accused by an undercover police officer of soliciting gay sex in the men's room of Minneapolis-St. Paul airport. After a press conference in which he angrily denied that he was homosexual, he changed his plans to step down from his office. While he has said he won't run for another term, he plans to finish out his current term, which ends in January, 2009.

The newspaper reported that it conducted background checks on five of the men, and found nothing to disprove their claims. The newspaper also said it verified Craig's travel records, where possible.

The Statesman acknowledged that it has not uncovered any definitive evidence of the claims - ''there are no videos, no love letters, no voice messages,'' writes veteran Statesman reporter Dan Popkey. "Like last August,'' referring to news of Craig's detention at the Minnesota airport, "they are he-said, he-said allegations about a man seeking discreet sex from partners whom he counted on to never tell."

Greg Ruth, 50, a photographer, told ABC News he distinctly remembers being showered with attention from then Congressman Craig during a Republican party reception in Couer d'Alene in the fall of 1981, when Ruth was an openly-gay, college Republican from the University of Puget Sound.

"He was paying so much attention to me at the reception, asking me all kinds of questions about U.P.S, and I loved to talk, so I was just asking him all kinds of questions about what it's like to be a congressman,'' Ruth said on Monday. "I remember asking somebody 'where's the bathroom?' and then I said, 'Excuse me, I have to go to the bathroom.'

"So I just went to the urinal, and I don't know, about 30 seconds later he was right there next to me at the urinal. He glanced over the little barricade at my penis.''

Ruth said he remembered being a "little uncomfortable'' at that point, though he was clear that he hadn't been bothered by what he said were "clearly'' sexual advances from the congressman towards him prior to that point.

"I was like, 'get away from me, dude,'' Ruth told ABC News.

Ruth said that Craig "gave me a smile.

"He didn't touch me or anything like that. I don't think he tapped his foot or anything like that,'' he said, giggling.

"While we were washing our hands, he just said, 'If you ever get to Washington, please give me a call.'' Ruth said he was handed a white slip of paper with a phone number on it. He said he discarded the number long ago.

"I wish I would have kept it looking back now,'' he mused. "I'm thinking it would be so cool to have."

Ruth said two longtime college buddies were with him at the time of his alleged encounter with Craig, but had both asked that he not identify them, as they both have "aspirations'' in Washington state Republican politics.

Ruth also provided ABC News a cell phone number for his uncle Gerald King, who confirmed to the Statesman that his nephew had shared the story about Craig with him back in 1981. ABC News was unable to immediately contact King, who told the Statesman he clearly remembers his nephew making the claims at the time.

"I don't care if he's gay,'' Ruth said today of Craig. But, referring to the senator's voting record on gay rights "he's so anti-gay!''

"Do You Follow Politics, Mike?"

Mike Jones, 50, told ABC News that Craig paid $200 for mutual oral sex with the then-Denver-based escort/massage therapist. He said Craig remains distinctive in his memory.

"He's one of the few of my clients that did not totally take off all of his clothes,'' Jones said. He said Craig removed his coat and dress shirt but left his slacks, t-shirt and shoes on before climbing onto a massage table and requesting that Jones be naked. Jones said the pair engaged in mutual oral sex and masturbation.

Jones said he was adept at "guessing'' the professions of his clients, and said he was sure Craig was a politician because "the first thing he asked me when he walked in was 'Mike, do you follow politics?' and when I said I did, he changed the subject right away!"

Jones acknowledged that he contacted the Idaho newspaper to tell his story three months ago, after Craig reneged on a pledge to resign his office. He said he agreed to speak on the record only if other men were willing to come forward and identify themselves as well.

You don't want to go through what I went through - alone - with Haggard,'' Jones said. "Everybody called me a liar,'' he said. "It was a year of hell."

In 2006, Haggard initially denied Jones allegations that the pair had gay sex, but eventually resigned his powerful post as head of Colorado's New Life Church, and acknowledged he was guilty of "sexually immoral conduct."

Jones' credibility has been questioned, since he has published a book about his experience during the Haggard controversy, "I Had To Say Something: The Art of Ted Haggard's Fall." He denies he was motivated by publicity for the book.

"The book came out in June,'' he told ABC News. "If I really wanted to be as publicity hound, I would have come out [with his story] when the [Craig] story was hot. I didn't. The Idaho Statesman had my story for three months. I left it up to them when to publish it, '' he said, adding again that he wanted others to come forward publicly before his tale was published.

Jones said he would not have offered his story had the Senator resigned, as he had said he intended to do after the scandal erupted late last summer.

"Hypocrisy - that's the ultimate word,'' Jones said. "If it weren't for that, you would have never heard my story."

Craig has long and loudly complained that the Idaho Statesman has been on a witch-hunt against him for a long time.

"It is unfortunate that the Idaho Statesman has chosen to continue to lower itself to the standards of what can best be described as tabloid journalism,'' Craig said in a statement released to ABC News by communications director Dan Whiting.

"Like its previous coverage," the statement goes on, "these latest allegations are completely false and have no basis in reality. In fact, the paper itself states that these baseless accusations contain no definitive evidence yet they still decided to print them anyway."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; doublestandard; idaho; larrycraig; partisanwitchhunt; yellowjournalism
Brutally-worded headline. :O)
1 posted on 12/03/2007 10:49:59 AM PST by jdm
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To: Xenalyte

For the Salacious ping list?

/just kidding.


2 posted on 12/03/2007 10:50:28 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Does this mean his wife is qualifed to run for President now?


3 posted on 12/03/2007 10:50:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (What drug pushers do with drugs, politicians do with government subsides)
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To: MNJohnnie

LOL


4 posted on 12/03/2007 10:53:17 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

the headline is actually clever


5 posted on 12/03/2007 11:00:21 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: jdm

It’s just sex.

Meanwhile we can’t “add” any scandals to the Clintons’ rap sheet, it’s just considered so much “old news”. Actually they are “inconvenient truths” that stand between the Clintons and a return to the White House.

Who’s Larry Craig? Some guy leaving Congress.

Who’s Robert Byrd? Someone who’s still in Congress.


6 posted on 12/03/2007 11:04:36 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: jdm

He’s not gay! Quite picking on him!


7 posted on 12/03/2007 11:07:18 AM PST by Always Right
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To: jdm
The Senator is in session...


8 posted on 12/03/2007 11:07:31 AM PST by avacado
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To: jdm

Does this mean he is up to eight or nine guys. There was a big list yesterday too. This guy is scum!!! He should resign. I guess he is trying to hold on as long as possible so when he is up for reelection, the people will have forgotten. I doubt highly they are going to forget this. Hey Senator Craig, take yourself and Senator Vitter out of the Senate NOW PLEASE!!! You both are a disgrace!


9 posted on 12/03/2007 11:08:17 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: RDTF
the headline is actually clever.

Yes, but it made me throw-up in my mouth a little.

10 posted on 12/03/2007 11:10:01 AM PST by jdm
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To: weegee

Other than completely devastating his family and leaving his reputation in ruins, what is the point of all this? He’s already said he’s not running for re-election, and if he were to resign immediately, the governor of Idaho is a Republican who would appoint another Republican. I’m actually surprised that the MSM is still pursuing this. Doesn’t Larry Flynt have dirt on any other Republican??


11 posted on 12/03/2007 11:13:59 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: jdm
thought this appropriate
12 posted on 12/03/2007 11:14:15 AM PST by SGCOS
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To: jdm
Title could also have been:

"Craig's stance is widening"

13 posted on 12/03/2007 11:15:01 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jdm

The ever-widening stance?


14 posted on 12/03/2007 11:15:38 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: jdm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2b1N74bQUE


15 posted on 12/03/2007 11:17:02 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: jdm

What’s Craig’s stance on these new allegations, or is he just going to stand back and let it all shake out first?


16 posted on 12/03/2007 11:19:51 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: jdm

Craig’s lisp may be lengthening as well.


17 posted on 12/03/2007 11:20:06 AM PST by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: ChocChipCookie
Other than completely devastating his family and leaving his reputation in ruins, what is the point of all this? He’s already said he’s not running for re-election, and if he were to resign immediately, the governor of Idaho is a Republican who would appoint another Republican.
That's right. If he got his gay ass out of there the governor could appoint a GOOD Republican. One who would be in a good spot to run for re-election in 2008.

This faggot is doing the work of Obama, Hillary and Edwards by doing his maggoty best to sabotage the Republican Party.

Too bad there's no way to pry his faggoty grip from his much-soiled and highly-besmirched Senate seat.

18 posted on 12/03/2007 11:24:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: napscoordinator
>I guess he is trying to hold on as long as possible so . . .

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Don't you misfire
Fill me up
With the desire
To carry on

Don't you know honey
That love's a game
It's always a hit or miss
So take your aim

Got to hold on tight
Shoot me out of sight

Don't you misfire
Fill me up
With the desire
To carry on

Your gun is loaded
And pointing my way
There's only one bullet
So don't delay
Got to time it right
Fire me through the night

Come on take a shot
Fire me higher
Don't you miss this time
Please don't
Misfire!



19 posted on 12/03/2007 11:26:18 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: ChocChipCookie
Other than completely devastating his family and leaving his reputation in ruins, what is the point of all this?

I think there are a couple of points:

1) The Idaho Statesman is out to prove that its original reporting about Craig was right.

2) For the rest of us, I think it matters when a leader stands in front of the camera and claims one thing but the opposite is true. That's called lying. I thought it mattered that Clinton was lying when he said "I did not have sex with that woman," and I think it matters whether Craig is lying when he says he hasn't had sex with men. I want to know, and I think the rest of the citizens should know, whether our senators are liars.

20 posted on 12/03/2007 11:27:17 AM PST by mngran2
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To: samtheman

That’s true, which makes it even more mystifying that the MSM doesn’t just leave the issue alone.


21 posted on 12/03/2007 11:28:27 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: jdm

More bad news for Larry Widestance. Call Barney. Call Bill. Call Ted. It’s only sex. Blah, Blah...


22 posted on 12/03/2007 11:32:08 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: ChocChipCookie

This is one case where I don’t WANT the MSM to leave him alone. He’s a disgusting traitor to our party by staying in office when he KNOWS he can only do us harm. Selfish SOB. I hope he rots in shame. Whatever the MSM can do to drive him from office is fine with me. And the only reason they’re willing to do it, is because they rightfully suspect that this creep is going to hang in there and continue to drag us all down with him. He’s a scumbag. Every bit as low a scumbag as any of the scumbags on the other side of the aisle.

And I’ll prove it to you: He SAID he would resign if his plea couldn’t be changed and then he took it back. Lying faggot scumbag.


23 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:56 AM PST by samtheman
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To: jdm
Craig paid him $200 for sex during

Craig is not homosexual but he is buysexual.

24 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: jdm

And the point of all this “outing” is...?

Isn’t Craig entitled to be “hypocritical” about such a matter?

Should we likewise demand that alcoholic (or social drinking) legislators oppose limits on alcohol consumption and drunk driving?

Every one has his own particular weakness or pitfall; that shouldn’t undermine his desire that society as a whole inhibit depraved sexuality.


25 posted on 12/03/2007 11:40:45 AM PST by Elpasser
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To: weegee
Who’s Larry Craig? Some guy leaving Congress.

No he is the jerko that should resign and let the Governor replace him with a real conservative that could then run as an incumbent, but that skank is too selfish.

26 posted on 12/03/2007 11:50:48 AM PST by itsahoot (Gingrich: "We don't have a peace process. We have a surrender process." (Duncan Hunter gets it.))
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To: jdm

How can one person “confirm” something in a he said he said my word versus theirs case? It just seems to me that the Democratic Party/Media are just trying to get Senator Craig’s seat.

Once again, I ask, where are the Democrat scandals of this type? Of course, if you are a Democrat, “it’s no big deal”.

As much as I don’t like hypocrisy, I don’t like Democrats even more.


27 posted on 12/03/2007 11:55:29 AM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: jdm
Does anyone really care (except ABC) about Craig's sex life?

I certainly don't. And, I find it odd that ABC is obsessed with this garbage.

28 posted on 12/03/2007 11:55:50 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: jdm
Brutally-worded headline

Yeah... And, considering the source, you would at least have expected the headline to be written as:

Craig's List Is Lengthening (Not That There's Anything Wrong With That)

29 posted on 12/03/2007 11:59:14 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: jdm

“He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. “I will not let this paper’s attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho.”

Translation: “He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. “I will not let this paper’s attempt to malign my name stop me from kissing Diane Fienstien’s butt and pushing Agjobs and any other open border proposal down the publics throat before they finally kick me outta here.”


30 posted on 12/03/2007 12:03:13 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: The Electrician

The early morning reports on ABC Radio said “there was no evidence to discredit the claims.” Someone makes an unsubstantiated allegation and you need “evidence” to disprove a rumor? Put some ice on it Larry.


31 posted on 12/03/2007 12:16:00 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jdm

Get ready for it....

Most Libs now believe our Achilles heels that will get them into the halls of power in ‘08 are toe-tapping Republicans, and Illegal ALiens...


32 posted on 12/03/2007 12:18:05 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: MNJohnnie
Does this mean his wife is qualifed to run for President now?

No but it could mean she is ready to switch parties and start her own "News" web site.

33 posted on 12/03/2007 12:30:30 PM PST by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: jdm

Senator Craig has been a dirty, nasty, boy.


34 posted on 12/03/2007 12:31:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: jdm

Hey you, on the next thread, pass some tissue.


35 posted on 12/03/2007 12:33:35 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: jdm
Craig's Loafers are Lightening
36 posted on 12/03/2007 12:36:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: jdm
Sen Craig: "Listen to this. I'm not gay, I never had sex with those men!" (wagging the finger)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

37 posted on 12/03/2007 12:39:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The ever-widening stance?

I suspect his stance is already about as wide as it can get...

38 posted on 12/03/2007 12:44:17 PM PST by r9etb
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To: jdm

Laughing at the headline.

Senator Craig needs to resign.
In my mind, there is very little worse than hypocrisy and lying.
Senator Craig stood up and told the world that he was resigning and then backpedaled and lied and now he’s going to stay.
He’s a liar and a hypocrite.


39 posted on 12/03/2007 12:59:59 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: mngran2

Clinton was on trial for sexual harassment charges (that he dropped trousers in front of an employee who was brought to a hotel room by 2 police officers and that he demanded that she “kiss it”.

His workplace sexcapades were pertinant to that case to show a pattern of such actions in the workplace.

No one has alleged that Senator Craig solicited co-workers or underlings nor that he used his power as a figure of government to use members of law enforcement to coerrce anyone into sexual favors.

The question isn’t even if Senator Craig had sex in public. It is simply whether he ever had gay sex in private (possibly after a public unspoken solicitation based on arcane hand gestures).

Bill Clinton lied under oath about his workplace sex affairs, paid Monica to also lie for him, and savaged those who told the truth.

Care to show the other similarities than just “they were about sex”?


40 posted on 12/03/2007 1:09:01 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: mountainbunny

Bribery is worse than hypocrisy.

A hypocrite can do wrong and still condemn those who do likewise. It can be considered a character failing to engage in such behavior but at least the hypocrite isn’t saying “it’s ok”.

A person who takes a bribe for legislation or contracts is a crook.

Still think the hypocrite is worse?


41 posted on 12/03/2007 1:10:43 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: xtinct

It is about continuing the smear of the GOP as harboring a culture of corruption and continuing a whisper campaign about closeted log cabin Republicans.


42 posted on 12/03/2007 1:12:28 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Elpasser
Should we likewise demand that alcoholic (or social drinking) legislators oppose limits on alcohol consumption and drunk driving?
Every one has his own particular weakness or pitfall; that shouldn’t undermine his desire that society as a whole inhibit depraved sexuality.

Are you saying having an alcohol problem equates to gay sex and not just gay sex but adultery as well?????

43 posted on 12/03/2007 1:19:22 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: jdm
Hasn't this cretin resigned YET???

Get out!
44 posted on 12/03/2007 1:20:43 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: napscoordinator

Yes, I am. All are moral failures; surrenders to temptations to commit inappropriate acts.


45 posted on 12/03/2007 1:39:16 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: jokar
No but it could mean she is ready to switch parties and start her own "News" web site.

OH good one! I had forgotten about her.

46 posted on 12/03/2007 2:02:17 PM PST by MNJohnnie (What drug pushers do with drugs, politicians do with government subsides)
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To: jdm

He just wanted to get something straight...


47 posted on 12/03/2007 2:11:13 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: Elpasser

Ok. Got your point. lol.


48 posted on 12/03/2007 2:49:35 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: jdm

“He glanced over the little barricade at my penis.”

At first I thought he said; “He glanced over the barricade at my little penis.”


49 posted on 12/03/2007 2:53:07 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss..)
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To: weegee

Bribery is part & parcel with being a hypocrite and one cannot be separated from the other.
The far-ranging damage a hypocrite does to the community is not just to himself, but to the community.
“’So-&-so’ did X which makes it okay for me to do it” is a common excuse people use. Hypocrites bring the entire community down.
Hypocritical politicians abuse the authority they promised to use wisely (that promise is implicit when they run for office - who would vote for someone who admits they plan to break the law and lie about it?). They lie publicly, they benefit from their lies, and they destroy the trust people have in them and in public office.
So, when a politician accept a bribe, he is both a thief and a hypocrite.
Jesus condemned duplicity: “He who is without sin may cast the first stone”.
Jesus also condemned the Pharisees, who preached chastity, and morality, but who were thieves and hypocrites.
He was telling us that they go together and that they are incredibly destructive.
“But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter.” Matthew 23:13
Senator Craig condemned homosexuals (cast stones) and was elected on a “family values” platform.
He is a liar, he is a hypocrite and he needs to go.


50 posted on 12/03/2007 4:25:08 PM PST by mountainbunny
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