Posted on 12/03/2007 4:27:53 PM PST by Richard Poe
| by Richard Lawrence Poe Monday, December 3, 2007 |
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HILLARY CLINTON is Americas leading gun-hater. This is no secret. Her F rating from the National Rifle Association merely confirms the obvious. More perplexing is why she hates guns. The explanation may lie in the teachings of Hillary's one-time political mentor Saul Alinsky.
As noted in last weeks column, Alinsky was a radical organizer who got his start building militant community groups in Chicago slums during the 1930s. Young Hillary met him through a leftwing church group in high school. She wrote her senior thesis about Alinsky at Wellesley College, and remained friends with him until Alinsky died in 1972. After law school, Alinsky operatives got Hillary an appointment to the House Judiciary Committees Watergate investigative team in 1974.
Hillarys ties to Alinsky run deep. Her tactics have long borne his imprint.
In 1971, Alinsky wrote Rules for Radicals, a book destined to change the American left. In it, Alinsky mocked Sixties radicals as dilettantes who loved to talk revolution, but shunned the hard work of organizing the masses.
Especially irksome to Alinsky was loose talk of guns and bombs.
Such talk was fashionable in the Sixties. Student protestors loved quoting Chairman Mao's 1938 statement, Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
Some activists, like those of the Black Panther Party, went beyond mere words. In their ten-point platform of October 1966, the Panthers declared, among other things, The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all black people should arm themselves for self-defense.
On May 2, 1967, Panther boss Bobby Seale led some 20 armed Panthers into the California State Capitol Building in Sacramento, brandishing loaded rifles, shotguns and pistols. They were protesting the Mulford Act, a pending bill that would bar Californians from carrying guns in public or in vehicles.
Police arrested Seale and five others, but pressed no weapons charges. Carrying guns was still legal in California. Prosecutors ended up charging the Panthers only with disturbing the peace.
Young Hillary Rodham supported the Black Panthers. At Yale, she helped defend the New Haven Nine, a group of Panthers who tortured to death a suspected police informant. Hillary worked closely with Panther attorney Charles Garry on the case. She was put in charge of monitoring the Panther trial for civil rights violations.
Despite her work on behalf of the Panthers, Hillary may have developed doubts about their tactics. Her mentor Saul Alinsky had harsh words for Panther gunmen. In his book Rules for Radicals, Alinsky expressed contempt for those who leave their dead comrades and take off for Algeria or other points.
Alinsky was no pacifist. In Rules for Radicals, he wrote, The power of a gun may be used to enforce slavery, or to achieve freedom. He rejected violence for practical reasons, not moral ones.
The problem with America, Alinsky wrote, was that rightwingers had more firepower than leftists. This made violent revolution impractical. `Power comes out of the barrel of a gun! is an absurd rallying cry when the other side has all the guns, Alinsky admonished his readers.
In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky noted approvingly that Lenin renounced violence upon returning to Russia from exile in April 1917. The Tsar had abdicated, but Social Democrats now controlled the government. Lenins Bolsheviks were outnumbered and outgunned.
Alinsky explained, The essence of Lenins speeches during this period was `They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet And it was.
Lenin did not have to wait long. He siezed power in an armed coup in October 1917.
As long as the right has more guns, the left should oppose guns, Alinsky concluded. Only when the balance of power shifts, and appropriate weapons became available to the left, should leftists consider turning to violence.
To what extent Senator Clinton adopted Alinsky's thinking on revolutionary violence we can only guess. However, her policy on guns is clear, whatever her motives may be. She seeks to disarm the American people, while arming herself to the hilt.
Hillary exhorts us to give up our guns for the common good. For herself, she aspires to the Presidency, from which perch she would wield power as Americas top law enforcement official, highest-ranking intelligence officer and commander-in-chief of the mightiest army, navy and air force in the world.
Something about this deal does not strike me as equitable. Or wise.
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Richard Lawrence Poe is a contributing editor to Newsmax, an award-winning journalist and a New York Times bestselling author. His latest book is The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Siezed Control of the Democratic Party, co-written with David Horowitz. |

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“To what extent Senator Clinton adopted Alinsky’s thinking on revolutionary violence we can only guess. However, her policy on guns is clear, whatever her motives may be. She seeks to disarm the American people, while arming herself to the hilt.”
This is all you had to say. Lets be succinct, shall we?
Hillary doesn't hate guns. She hates OUR guns.
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Because, of course, one might be used on her,......and Big Billy Jo, Jim Bob, Bubba Jo and Billy Jo Jim Bob Earl,...etc., etc., etc.
Not to mention Jimah Cahtah and all their commie friends and cohorts.
I’m not sure she hates guns as much as she hates people who want them. Guns, like environmentalism, abortion, AIDS and racial divisiveness, is a tailor made subject for whipping up the left-leaning emotional masses. It’s not about guns, babies or clean air; it’s about power.
I started reading your books because of Mister Robinson’s
Foreword.
They make me wonder “How does the greatest Nation in the
history of the world can turn out such traitorous scum?”.
The Clinton ethos on weapons and force can be summarized in one word; Waco.
Bump! Her pet panthers were challenged in Texas.
Good old Saul Alinsky. I was introduced to him in college through various professors and I still find as a conservative that I can just as easily use his methods against him and they can be against others.
The writer brings up some interesting points about Hillary’s motives and thinking, but I believe that his fears are unfounded. I’ve written this before and I still believe it - I think that the military would refuse to carry out any “revolutionary” actions by Hillary, the justice department in many parts would do the same, some of the states would tell her to go to hell, and many police departments would also do that same thing. Yes, her efforts would have the rabid support of the academics and the media, but I don’t think that anyone is fearful of a nighttime raid by a literature professor and the staff of the local newspaper. The military takes an oath to defend the Constitution, not the president, and they take that oath seriously. Despite the seemingly vast numbers of leftist judges out there, there are many who also support the Constitution, not the president. I’ve hung around enough cops to know they would simply ignore orders coming down from on high to commit crimes against the population.
I still see a President Hillary Clinton as a one-term president, spending her last year barking orders that no one obeys and making speeches that no one listens to.
“The problem with America, Alinsky wrote, was that rightwingers had more firepower than leftists. This made violent revolution impractical. `Power comes out of the barrel of a gun! is an absurd rallying cry when the other side has all the guns, Alinsky admonished his readers.”
I believe that’s the problem for Hill and really all leftists in a nutshell. Its the ability to resist their plans for the rest of us. A disarmed populace is much more willing to accept the intelligentsia ‘s grand design for our lives. Those guns can be a real nuisance.
bump for later
So very well said.
She does not “hate’ guns. She follows whatever the liberal view of the day is. She has no independent ideas. Liberal opinion leaders tell her she is to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-gray rights etc. So she is.
Hilary just hates freedom, in general. Hilary can’t hope to see her plans prevail,in a free nation.
BTTT, Bump
“I started reading your books because of Mister Robinsons
Foreword.”
I found Free Republic by reading the forward in that book!
Another reason that Mrs. Hillary Clinton must NEVER be allowed anywhere near the White House, even on a tour!!
All conservatives, 911 moderates and Reagan democrats should get behind and support Fred Thompson to be the republican nominee. With his courtroom experience, knowledge of foreign and domestic affairs, and well-thought-out plans on the issues, he is the man that can defeat Senator Clinton.
Fred on the issues:
http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx?View=OnTheIssues
Thanks for the ping, Richard. Great article. Outstanding links. A look inside the criminal mind. All criminals fear your ability to defend yourself. Hillary is no exception.
From David Limbaugh here.
I think there is a lot of truth in what you say here Richard...Good article.
Don’t ever, EVER, think that “it can’t happen here.” Hillary & Co. believe in incrementalism/salami tactics/camel’s nose, etc. For instance, did YOU believe in 1992 that people would be taking gay marriage seriously 12 years later?
Socialized Medicine is not going away.
Euthanasia?
Bueller?
Thank you for the ping Richard. My daughter recently asked me to send her information about Hillary. Your Profile page is an excellent source, I enjoyed browsing through it!
I just don't know. Maybe it's time for a hillary presidency, with a democRAT controlled Congress.
Why? I believe Thomas Jefferson was right. History proves him right. 1861 was less than a hundred years after the founding of this great nation.
Yep, maybe it's time for hillary. Let's get the hundred years going now before it's too late.
"Too late" meaning it's past time for me to hump ammo.
5.56mm
The Clintoons have enough “room temperature” associates to fill their own cemetery that would include VWF.
Informative post, thanks
When the time comes, various agencies can be staffed by the "correct" people, who would have no problems firing on middle class America. There are, after all, plenty of people in America who have a fondness for violence and antagonism for middle-class America, who can be recruited
Literature professors are not the only Dem constituency
Which is exactly why our Founding Fathers, in their wisdom, sought to implement the Second Amendment as a Constitutional right.
It's been said millions of times throughout U.S. history, and should be emphasized once again. Nuff said.
Clinton’s showed us a peak of their inclinations, when they are ‘in control’ of the weapons, with Elian and Waco.
peak = peek...rolls eyes.
Let me know if you have any unambiguous anti-RKBA quotes by her.
Hillary don’t hate guns. She just doesn’t want you to have them. Her henchmen are the only ones that she wants armed.
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Waco
Exactly!
we’re gonna take things away from you for the public good...
not specifically said about guns, but her mindset is there...
teeman
SHe’s very careful to avoid giving her enemies quotable quotes. Believe me, I’ve looked.
I feel honored just to be pinged ..thanks.. Now I will read the thread. :-)
Hillary doesn’t need guns, she has a face that kills.
Which, imho, being interpreted means . . .
SHRILLERY MACHIAVELLI GLOBALIST KLINTOON
hates guns in anyone’s hands that she doesn’t have 100% control over.
Al Gore said, “Handguns have no place in American society.” He said it on Larry King right before he ran for President. King was so taken by surprise, that he asked Gore if he had heard right.
That’s a good one by Gore, but I still can’t find one mouthed by Hillary. She’s careful, that witch.
Nice montage Phil. I have some of that in a slideshow on another thread. That Waco image would be a good addition.
Sprinkle in betrayal of every U.S. military secret to the ChiComs, add the coverup of the Middle Eastern and Filipino Islamist links of OKCBomb, the TWA Flight 800 "centerline fuel tank" fiasco, and the wasting of millions in cruise missiles on Operation Blow Monica off the Front Page August 1998 and Operation What Impeachment December 1998.
Commander in chief during this critical time?
Don't forget Retreat from Mogadishu: Making 911 a Foregone Conclusion, and I Couldn't Take Osama As I Had Nothing On Which To Hold Him--
Not She Who Must Be Oyveyyed.
Thanks for the ping!
Wow, you are talking massive “slide-show”, never ending if all their dirty deeds were incorporated!
Thanks Richard.
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Have to be a JS Slideshow webpage to get all that in
Something only you would know how to cook up!
Post something irritating - I have a new “egg” gif! Lolol!
just kidding..
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