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Preacher rebuffs Senate spending inquiry (Creflo Dollar of World Changers Church Int'l, Atlanta )
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/5/07 | Eric Gorski and Rachel Zoll - ap

Posted on 12/05/2007 3:56:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge

One of six Christian ministries under investigation by a Senate committee is rebuffing inquiries into its spending, challenging the panel's watchdog role over religious groups, The Associated Press has learned.

A lawyer for preacher Creflo Dollar of World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta has asked Sen. Charles Grassley to either refer the matter to the IRS or get a subpoena, according to a letter from Dollar's attorney obtained Wednesday by the AP.

Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, sent pointed questionnaires in early November to a half-dozen ministries, asking about salaries, perks, travel and oversight. The Iowa Republican set Thursday as the deadline for a response.

All six organizations preach a form of the "prosperity gospel," the belief that God wants his faithful followers to reap material rewards.

Besides Dollar, several other televangelists have signaled concerns about invasions of privacy and violations of religious freedom. Only Joyce Meyer Ministries of Fenton, Mo., has provided the detailed financial and board oversight information sought by Grassley.

Dollar's refusal could lead to a court fight, giving a judge the authority to decide whether the committee is entitled to all the information it requested.

Grassley emphasized the other five still have time. The senator also reiterated that his probe "has nothing to do with church doctrine" and is strictly concerned with making sure the tax-exempt groups are following the law.

Dollar has been the most vocal in his criticism of the probe. In the Nov. 27 letter obtained by the AP, Dollar attorney Marcus Owens wrote to Grassley and Sen. Max Baucus, the Finance Committee chairman, that the church is willing to comply with a "proper" request for information — but it should be handled by the IRS.

Owens, the former director of the IRS's exempt organizations division, pointed to precedent: In the 1980s, a House subcommittee asked the IRS to review concerns about televangelists.

"A referral would permit Senator Grassley and the Senate Finance Committee to discharge their obligation to oversee federal tax administration without running the risk of government entanglement in the Church's religious beliefs and practices," the letter said.

An IRS review also would ensure privacy, Owens wrote. All IRS reviews are confidential, and Dollar has said he worries that a Senate probe might air sensitive information about salaries, among other things.

Failing a referral to the IRS, Owens requested that the committee seek subpoenas to "provide an appropriate legal context for the review." With a subpoena, the church and its members could gain confidentiality protections.

Joyce Meyer Ministries expressed confidence last week that it would be found in "complete compliance" with financial regulations.

The organization also addressed one of the more salacious details in the letter from Grassley — its reported purchase of a $23,000 "commode with marble top." The ministry said it was not a common toilet but a "a tall elegant chest of drawers," and that the selling agent got the price wrong.

Aside from Dollar and Meyer, the other televangelists have been noncommittal in their public responses. But some have voiced strong objections that echo Dollar's about privacy and religious freedom.

Bishop Eddie Long, who leads a megachurch and ministry in Lithonia, Ga., initially promised to "fully comply" with Grassley's request. But a few days later, Long told his congregation the request was "unjust," "intrusive," and "an attack on our religious freedom and privacy rights."

The others who received letters from Grassley are Randy and Paula White of Without Walls International Church and Paula White Ministries of Tampa, Fla.; Benny Hinn of World Healing Center Church Inc. and Benny Hinn Ministries of Grapevine, Texas; and Kenneth and Gloria Copeland of Kenneth Copeland Ministries of Newark, Texas.

Owens said in an e-mail to the AP that while each ministry is "separately responding as it sees fit," lawyers for the ministries have been in touch and share common concerns about Grassley's request.

The letter from Dollar's attorney describes the prosperity gospel as a "deeply held religious belief" grounded in Scripture, and that the six churches are part of the "rich tapestry of religion in America" deserving of protection.

Some legal scholars believe the Senate is a proper forum to review religious nonprofit groups' finances — although with caveats.

Congress has a legitimate interest in making sure nonprofit rules are followed because confidentiality rules make it hard to track IRS enforcement, said Marc Stern, general counsel of the American Jewish Congress, who advises religious groups on church-state issues.

"On the other hand, Congress is a very blunt instrument," he said. "Congressional hearings are hardly models of due process and they can pick on anything they want for any reason they want and that raises real concern. So there's this pull in both directions."


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KEYWORDS: 110th; creflodollar; grassley; irs; probe; televangelists

1 posted on 12/05/2007 3:56:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m not a fan of what the Senate is doing - that’s the job of the IRS. A church that submits to the IRS rules for 501(c) has to expect the government to peek into their kickers from time to time.

Disclaimer out of the way.

Creflo Dollar is not a preacher of the Word. He is preacher of the world. Here’s a bit of Creflo Dollar’s “gospel” - “Well, you need to hear about money, because you ain’t gonna have no love and joy and peace until you get some money!”

You can read about more such false teachers here - http://www.menofhonorministry.org/Discipleship/FalseTeachings.pdf


2 posted on 12/05/2007 4:05:52 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: NormsRevenge

With Congress spending money like drunken sailors, what business of their is it to investigate religous organizations?


3 posted on 12/05/2007 4:06:51 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“...render to Ceaser the things that are Ceasers and to God the things that are Gods”...


4 posted on 12/05/2007 4:13:25 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Balding_Eagle

They’re not religious organizations. They’re criminal enterprises.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 4:14:49 PM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Because the First Amendment means nothing to them.


6 posted on 12/05/2007 4:15:03 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: NormsRevenge

I have no respect for Crefflo Dollar for personal reasons, but I don’t agree with ‘reverends’ making millions tax free.

The purpose of tax free was because typically ‘reverends’ weren’t millionnaires and did more for the community. Not in this day and age.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 4:15:21 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like God is throwing the money-changers out of his temple...again.


8 posted on 12/05/2007 4:15:28 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: CalvaryJohn

You know that how?


9 posted on 12/05/2007 4:30:13 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: NormsRevenge
When ever you solicit funds across state lines, then I have not problem with the fed and the IRS looking into what they are doing, a Church's financial books should be open to the public 24-7 with no exceptions.
10 posted on 12/05/2007 4:34:54 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is a tough one. I can’t stand guys like Creflo Dollar and firmly believe they are preaching a false gospel. I can’t stand Congress, either. So, it’s hard to say which I’d rather see go down on this.


11 posted on 12/05/2007 5:02:31 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NormsRevenge

Good that he is challenging the government’s role in this. If people want to give thier money away, that’s their business. I think there’s a right somewhere in the constitution for peoople to be as stupid as they want to be.

I’ll buy into the tax exempt argument as soon as an investigation is launched into the practice of liberal candidates campaigning from the pulpit of black churches.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 5:49:29 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

I notice both Joyce Meyer and Creflo Dollar aren’t preaching much on Sky Angel any more.


13 posted on 12/07/2007 11:48:00 PM PST by pray4liberty (I pray and I vote.)
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To: Graybeard58

Checked the Sky Angel Guide. They’re still listed, but at very odd times. Maybe those broadcast times are cheaper??


14 posted on 12/07/2007 11:49:47 PM PST by pray4liberty (I pray and I vote.)
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