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(Saudi Arabia) “A Good Wife Must Live In Fear”
AsiaNews.it ^ | 05/07/2007 | AsiaNews.it

Posted on 12/05/2007 6:22:34 PM PST by DogByte6RER

“A good wife must live in fear”

05/07/2007

SAUDI ARABIA

Women are forbidden to drive, to show their head and to speak in public, and to shake a man’s hand. On television, preachers incite husbands to beat their wives “for their own good”. Saudi journalists describe the countless prohibitions facing Muslim women in their country and appeal for a distinction between religious truths and social customs.

Riyadh (AsiaNews/Agencies) – Without permission, women cannot even drive a car or change the colour of their clothes, and television preachers warn that women who shake a man’s hand are committing “adultery of the hand”. Citing such examples, Saudi journalists have criticized the social mentality that rules the relationship between wife and husband.

In the Saudi daily Al-Watan, Fatima Al-Faqih described the many bans imposed on Saudi women: “[They] are forbidden to drive, forbidden to travel without permission [of their husband or father or whoever has authority over them] , forbidden to stay alone at a hotel without permission, forbidden to name their own children without [a man's] consent... forbidden to leave their homes or to take a job without permission... forbidden to change the color of their abayas [traditional, long tunic], forbidden to go to school or to the university without permission.”

In some Saudi cities, a woman cannot even “show her face”, she cannot get married without permission nor can she “remain married if one of her male relatives decides that her husband's lineage is inferior to hers... nor can she sue for divorce without apologizing and paying a fine.” Without permission, she “cannot keep her children after the divorce... hold a senior position in the private or public sectors... annoy her husband, and finally, a woman's voice is considered [a form of] defilement, and she is forbidden to speak in public.”

Many men, writes Hasna Al-Quna’ir on the Al-Riyadh daily, justify the inferiority of women by resorting to a “distorted reading of the sayings of the Prophet”, a tactic often used by television preachers. For example, there is a verse that says: “A tribe that nominates a woman [as leader] will not succeed”. The journalist explained that on the strength of this saying, an expert said on television that wives should not be asked for their views as they were completely emotional. Another television expert, to “defend the virtue of women”, “incites fathers, brothers and husbands”, telling them that “a girl who is not beaten from an early age grows up to be a rebellious woman, difficult to control” and that “a woman who leaves her home without a veil is like a woman who goes out naked”. The same preacher warned Muslim women that not covering their heads was “the main reason that women are seduced and fall [into sin].” Another preacher said the woman “who shakes the hand of a man that is not her husband is guilty of... 'adultery of the hand'”. The journalist said that the sayings of the Prophet needed to be considered in the “historical circumstances and particular context” in which they were pronounced and that “religious duties” had to be distinguished from norms of social conduct that were controversial and not subject to dogmas of faith, “like the custom of covering the face”.

Due to this culture, writes Maha Al-Hujailan on the Al-Watan, “women live in constant fear… that the husband may take another wife.” “Only women living in this fear properly fulfill the role of the wife, while a woman who feels assured that her husband will not take another wife comes to disdain her husband and her family life...This culture causes a women to feel mentally and psychologically inferior, like a quarrelsome child who must be constantly supervised, intimidated and punished into performing her duties.”

The journalist said that women who felt this way may even believe that “a good man who respects them is nothing but a weak and unstable man... In their opinion, an ideal man is a violent one who humiliates his wife.”

Hasna Al-Quna’ir added: “The woman is the victim of this insular culture, and her only salvation would be a reorganization of the cultural structure of [our] entire society."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cultofdeath; islam; islamofascism; muhammadsminions; muslims; ratbastards; religionofpeace; rop; saudi; sharia
I wonder how the feminazis in the National Organization for Women (NOW) and Rosie O'Donnell would like living in an Islamofascist state like Saudi Arabia?

Their silence in regards to Islam is deafening.

This report just further illustrates why Islam is "The Religion of Peace."

1 posted on 12/05/2007 6:22:36 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Big deal, did you see the last American Idol rerun?

( /sarc)


2 posted on 12/05/2007 6:25:02 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: DogByte6RER
For example, there is a verse that says: “A tribe that nominates a woman [as leader] will not succeed”.

What's the saying about a stopped clock being right twice a day, Hillary?

3 posted on 12/05/2007 6:27:03 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: DogByte6RER
Sounds like slavery to me! This will all end when the women rise up and beat down thier oppressors! Organize and defeat the abusers of you and your children!
4 posted on 12/05/2007 6:28:28 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: DogByte6RER

Saudi Arabia needs a Lysistrata.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 6:33:53 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: DogByte6RER
So women are chattel, property. Less than human. Where have we heard that before?
6 posted on 12/05/2007 6:34:05 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: DogByte6RER
I wonder how the feminazis in the National Organization for Women (NOW) and Rosie O'Donnell would like living in an Islamofascist state like Saudi Arabia?

Maybe we should have a demonstration? One day, in a small town somewhere, hold a "Sharia Day" event. All the women in burkas, getting beaten by their husbands, prohibited from driving or even going outside without a male escort. All the men force to wear turban and put on fake beards, go to the bathroom according to Mad Mo's instructions, all that stuff.

It would be enlightening. And you know what? CAIR would protest to no end, to see Americans simulating the world that CAIR fights to create, because it would expose their Arab cultural backwardness and fascism.

7 posted on 12/05/2007 6:42:00 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: ronnie raygun
Is there an Islamic man wiling to give a woman her rights after seeing what has happened in the West?

Nah..only Christian men are benevolent enough to change abuse against women and then have those same women turn against them when they are given power. In our world, the femi-nazi movement will be declared obsolete by other women, then and only then will life become better for women in the ME.

8 posted on 12/05/2007 6:43:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: DogByte6RER

The opposite of fear is faith, and the author of faith is the Lord. What does that tell you about the author of fear?


9 posted on 12/05/2007 6:45:05 PM PST by hope (Isaiah 53 nothing redacted)
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To: Bahbah
So women are chattel, property. Less than human.

Females rank down at the bottom with sheep, goats and camels. While living in Saudi we saw men and boys riding the cab of pickups while all females (any age) rode in the pickup bed with whatever animals were being transported, even a small camel.

10 posted on 12/05/2007 6:46:03 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: ronnie raygun
Sounds like slavery to me!

While living in Saudi, we were invited to my drivers home for dinner one night. His wife served the meal, but couldn't look at anyone much less speak, then disappeared back to the "kitchen" where she ate alone.

11 posted on 12/05/2007 6:51:04 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Having control over other people makes a mess of the controllers and the controlled. It’s a sick way to live one’s life.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 6:58:14 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah

People always say money is the root of all evil. If I had my way, I would change that to say, the need for absolute power is the root of all evil.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 7:12:21 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
I would change that to say, the need for absolute poweris the root of all evil.

I actually agree with that. It brings riches, but it's not the point.

15 posted on 12/05/2007 7:17:15 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: knighthawk

ping


16 posted on 12/05/2007 7:17:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

17 posted on 12/05/2007 7:24:34 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland (Hey, Rudy, remember Neponsit?)
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To: DogByte6RER

O I don’t know, I kinda like their “rent a weekend wife” program.


18 posted on 12/05/2007 7:25:14 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: DogByte6RER
Their silence in regards to Islam is deafening.

It's a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation for these bitter hags. They view we conservative Americans as their #1 enemy, and it hasn't passed their notice that the Islamists despise us as well. ...albeit for vastly different reasons. Having this major item in common with the Mohammedans, the hags duly ignore their violently anti-women culture.

19 posted on 12/05/2007 7:26:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Exactly


20 posted on 12/05/2007 7:26:25 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: YellowRoseofTx
Sounds to me like the muslim men are AFRAID of the women.
Gotta keep them unseen and unheard or ...what????
21 posted on 12/05/2007 7:29:13 PM PST by Sunbunny
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To: DogByte6RER
Their silence in regards to Islam is deafening.

The single most damning view of NOW
is the deafening silence toward the treatment of women
under Islam. I have no tolerance toward their
cowardess in this respect. The internal inconsistence
is unacceptable, given their stated positions.

22 posted on 12/05/2007 7:32:15 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Earthdweller
People always say money is the root of all evil. If I had my way, I would change that to say, the need for absolute power is the root of all evil.

By tradition, the love of money, and the
love of power are interchangeable

23 posted on 12/05/2007 7:34:45 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: DogByte6RER

What Saudi Arabia needs, more than anything.

Is rapidly, with all the scientific resources available to us (which is quite a lot, actually) for,...

AMERICAN TO BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT.


24 posted on 12/05/2007 7:37:23 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: Morgana

They are not stupid.Simply the only way of life known to them.And it’s all over Middle East.


25 posted on 12/05/2007 7:37:33 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: HangnJudge
I'd like to see some studies about how many women in America still believe they are being keep down.

I think the whole movement has been keep alive and/or hijacked by some other movement, similar to the homosexual agenda and who know how many others. The whole Dem party reeks of trying to divide and conquer the Republic. If this is the truth then why would they care about expanding the movement to places where the abuse is more prevalent?

26 posted on 12/05/2007 7:40:37 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

That’s it!

The reason American feminists are afraid to take a stand on such horrible abuse elsewhere — is that by paying attention to true abuse, American women will realize they’re honestly, treated like absolute Queens.

I do believe, it’s that simple.


27 posted on 12/05/2007 7:43:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: HangnJudge
Not necessarily true. If a person has no money they can still exert power through manipulation. In addition, not all with money try to control people.
28 posted on 12/05/2007 7:44:25 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: DogByte6RER
The Saudi's evidently didn't see Erin Burnett of CNBC interviewing all the movers and shakers on location in Dubai - she was a tour-de-force - showing how smart, charming and beautiful American women are.

Saudi women ought to see a re-run of that show. It would open their eyes.....maybe. But the mullahs would burn them shut again!! Sick.

29 posted on 12/05/2007 7:46:05 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: DogByte6RER
The Saudi's evidently didn't see Erin Burnett of CNBC interviewing all the movers and shakers on location in Dubai - she was a tour-de-force - showing how smart, charming and beautiful American women are.

Saudi women ought to see a re-run of that show. It would open their eyes.....maybe. But the mullahs would burn them shut again!! Sick.

30 posted on 12/05/2007 7:46:07 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
This is why it is said that a picture is worth a thousand words. It would take a thousand more to really get to the core of what that picture truly states about that culture.

Also, it is things like this that make me give thanks to God for who and where and what I am.

31 posted on 12/05/2007 7:55:32 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: mkmensinger

If the wife becomes Lysistrata, he gets three more wives.
If all the wives become Lysistrata, he rapes the nearest infidel.
The greeks (oh, how I hate typing this) had more decency to stay within their own community and not go on a raping rampage in Lysistrata. The Greeks, such hedonists and pagans, were better than modern Muslims.


32 posted on 12/05/2007 8:24:45 PM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: DogByte6RER
With all due respect to you, there are very few people of any political persuasion that speak out loudly enough and/or often enough about the insanity of Islam.
33 posted on 12/05/2007 8:32:36 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Old Sarge

Ever hear of Maggie? Golda? Evita?


34 posted on 12/05/2007 8:45:02 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: DogByte6RER

NOW feminazis are secretly aligned with Islam and support repression of women in Islamic countries?

Either the left is incredible crafty or the people claiming that on this thread are incredibly stupid.


35 posted on 12/05/2007 8:54:00 PM PST by Deathmonger
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To: Sunbunny
Gotta keep them unseen and unheard or ...what????

Or she will walk away from the POS that her assigned husband is. Can't have that, the husband bought his wife fair and square!

36 posted on 12/05/2007 8:57:31 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Seajay

Indira, Imelda, and She Who Must Not Be Named


37 posted on 12/05/2007 9:00:34 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: DogByte6RER

If I were a Saudi, I’d take Rosie as a wife — just so I could beat her every day.


38 posted on 12/05/2007 9:05:55 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yup. And unfortunately, even if NOW shouted against it from the rooftops - nothing in Islam would change. They would just view it as another crazy American idea and more proof that women should be kept in their place - if they thought about it at all. Nothing any American organization says about it is going to change their way of life.


39 posted on 12/05/2007 9:17:38 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Well...I try to do my part. Here's a pic of me from last year holding the Protest Warrior sign at a pro-Israel rally in L.A. The other side of the street was filled with pro-Hamas thugs, other assorted Islamofascists an hate America and hate Israel types. Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
40 posted on 12/05/2007 10:04:18 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: LibWhacker
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
41 posted on 12/05/2007 10:06:16 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

bttt


42 posted on 12/05/2007 10:19:48 PM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: Sunbunny

“Sounds to me like the muslim men are AFRAID of the women.”

I’ve long been of the same opinion. Nothing but absolute fear could be the real motivation for the never ending pronouncements and reminders of how to keep females in their place. Basically they are afraid because most of these men have nothing going for them except their ability to subjugate women, if that is taken away they will be shown as the consummate losers that they actually are.


43 posted on 12/06/2007 3:53:46 AM PST by Mila
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To: DogByte6RER

Good job!


44 posted on 12/06/2007 6:05:21 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

More proof the believers of mohammed (mfbuh) are barbarians.


45 posted on 12/06/2007 6:16:37 AM PST by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: DogByte6RER
“This report just further illustrates why Islam is “The Religion of Peace.”

huh? It illustrates why Islam is the religion of misogyny, the religion of slavery, the religion of tyranny, of terror, or cruelty. Nowhere does it illustrate why Islam is the religion of peace.

I suspect you were trying to be sarcastic, but it didn’t come across as sarcastic. You should remember that there will be people reading this that actually believe that Islam is a peaceful religion.

46 posted on 12/06/2007 7:44:59 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

“The Religion of Peace” is an euphemism.

Check out:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


47 posted on 12/06/2007 6:04:40 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

The only thing Islam is good for is reminding you how fortunate you are to live in America.


48 posted on 12/07/2007 8:38:20 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: All
Another preacher said the woman “who shakes the hand of a man that is not her husband is guilty of... 'adultery of the hand'”.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time. And I watch C-SPAN.
49 posted on 12/08/2007 4:30:14 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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