Posted on 12/06/2007 10:13:20 AM PST by Reaganesque
Given the opportunity, I like to read a transcript first. Words mean things.
So, I read the transcript thoroughly first. It’s full of holes, but also unbelievable, considering its source.
Now I’m actually watching. Canned and memorized pap. Sophomoric. Smarmy. Theologically shallow. Bleh.
Frankly, when you watch the smarmy words of Mitt Romney in this speech, while knowing his actual record, it very quickly becomes an obscenity.
Once again for the lurkers, who is it you're supporting for the presidency?
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I don’t know if I agree or not, this is a high compliment you pay, but; This speech was as good or better than any politician I have ever heard in my nearly 60 years. I have met the likes of both president Bushes, Al Gore, President Reagan and many other national big wigs. None of them have ever given a more well delivered more inspirational speech. His words and delivery made my eyes moist when I contemplated the meaning of them. That is what leaders do, they motivate others to the work that needs to be done in a given situation. I think Mr. Romney motivated me to switch from being a Fred Head to being a Romney believer.
When I hear the misrepresentations about Mr. Romney here on this thread I have to wonder about the motivations of those that do it. I think most of us on this site know a bigot when we see one or read one.
When Mr. Romney has the opportunity to speak on the same stage as Mrs Clinton it will be easy to see who is the real leader, Mrs. Clinton won’t be able to carry water for Mr. Romney.
It is not likely that this speech will win anybody the election but it is a defining moment in American politics, it said things that have needed to be said for a couple of decades at least but have been politically incorrect to say. Mr. Romney said those things in a logical convincing way without being critical or hurting most peoples feelings. Perhaps he doesen’t worship God the same way I do but it is obvious that he worships God.
I think what I saw in that speech was a great man saying what we needed to hear.
His speech affected me the same way. It is the same effect Reagan's speeches had on me. You are so right. It is important as a leader to have the ability to motivate people to good and sincere action through the transmission of pure and lofty ideals.
"I think Mr. Romney motivated me to switch from being a Fred Head to being a Romney believer."
How wonderful! Welcome aboard. It would not be surprising if there were many more like you. : )
Charles, you’re right to an extent. But, you just “dissed” the hams too. Saying that the GOVERNMENT can “professionally man” those systems is what I’m talking about.
First off, I AM a professional communicator, did it for 26 years with the government. I’m also a ham. Hams are for the most part more professional than those the government will hire.
What you’re failing to understand and realize is that systems FAIL in disasters. You can put up the best, and most expensive systems, that can do whatever you want. But when floods, fires and hurricanes take out the antennas and the systems, there’s nothing you can do about that, and you need help.
Hams aren’t the first line guys. They are BACK UP.
They always will be BACK UP. We have a saying... “When all else fails, Amateur Radio is there”.
That’s what I’m trying to get you folks to see, and acknowledge.
Anyone who sits there and says “we shouldn’t count on the hams” simply is misunderstanding the problem. I expect, and KNOW that local and regional EOCs DO depend on Hams. The INCORPORATE them into the training for the region.
Want to know why?>
Because we are a resource that has our own equipment that tends to show up when needed, and the training and exercises keep the hams ready to go.
Almost all emergency operations centers around the country employ hams at some level of operations and planning. Many of the “government operators” ARE hams.
You guys can sit there and say “We need this or that”, but without the funding applied to those systems, you’re not going to get it.
When you chose one and only one type of intercommunications, you do not NOT have diversity of communications, thus you have weak links and single-points-of-failure.
Right now, for a fact, the government has put in 800-900 mhz digital trunking systems throughout this SW region. People are supposed to be able to inter-communicate between fire, police agencies, federal agencies and the military.
Guess what? It isn’t working. It looks fantastic on paper. In real life, things like that fail because the systems are now overloaded, they aren’t being used as they were intended, and they get “busy” now, just like a cell phone system.
When 9-11 happened, the cell phones mostly went out. Too many people calling. Jammed the phone lines and the cell towers. Hams came in and brought external communications systems that were NOT dependent on city systems. They got messages out.
Hams helped save thousands of lives when Katrina hit, because government infrastructure FAILED.
This PAST WEEK Ham radio operators again came to the rescue when GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS FAILED>
Learn from mistakes, learn from history and understand that Mitt made a mistake. Better yet, tell MITT he made a mistake and he needs to rethink his “the government can do it all” — because that’s MONEY out of OUR pockets.
I’m willing to bring my radio systems, and operate PROFESSIONALLY (as an amateur who is NOT getting paid) and provide whatever I have as a resource when the emergency/disaster hits. What I’m NOT willing to do is have my taxes raises to support a government run, government funded radio communications or internet system that will fail when it is needed the most.
By the way, at least *I* have a legitimate reason to NOT vote for him. This religion nonsense is a waste of time.
I don’t care if he is a Mormon, Christian, or Jew... As long as he does his job as PRESIDENT and doesn’t dictate how I go to church (or do not).
(I won’t be voting for a Muslim, yes, I’m prejudiced against them for now. Unless, and until they start standing up AGAINST their fellow Muslims that are creating all the hate and discontent against the West, and Jews in general, there’s no way I’d vote for one). How’s that for a statement.
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"All of this that people are saying reveals partisan thinking, the thinking of those who support another candidate, not seriously thinking about the nature of the process here and what Romney was trying to do with the speech. They’re looking at this strictly within the confines of a political speech, and I think it went beyond those bounds. The critics — I guess it’s quite natural — they put their own agenda into this speech. He didn’t talk about taxes, they’re saying, he didn’t talk about electability. This wasn’t a speech about taxes. This wasn’t a speech about electability. It wasn’t a speech about policy. It was a speech about American values, what binds us together as a people and as a nation and what will continue to bind us together in the future as a nation.
I have to tell you, I don’t endorse candidates in primaries, and this is not an endorsement. I’ve said this repeatedly. But Romney, throughout all of this — you try running around having your religion attacked and threatened and lied about every day, folks, and not get bitter, and Mitt Romney has not been bitter. He has not gotten angry. He easily could have. He’s kept a positive outlook and approach, despite being demeaned and doubted in ways that no other candidate has had to deal with."
-Rush Limbaugh
Have a good one.
This is my first and only comment on “the speech.”
It was excellent. In every facet. I am not likely to vote for Romney any more NOW (in the primary) than I was before, but it has nothing to do with his religion. If he’s nominated I will vote for him and send money.
I cannot say the same of Trudy or McAmnesty.
Very nicely stated. I was lucky enough to see and hear Mitt speak in person on two previous occasions and both times his speech hit me quite the same way this speech did yesterday. I was sold way back when. I knew he was what our country needs. I am so glad he got the opportunity to showcase his leadership potential and his inspirational qualities for everyone else to see so that, hopefully, many people will come to recognize what I have always known.
Let's hope.
Agree 100% ... and I'm glad that it's become the focus in part of this campaign ... but there's a lighter side to the issue as well ... The Atheist. An atheist was walking through the woods. “What majestic trees”! “What powerful rivers”! “What beautiful animals”! He said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder & saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, & the bear was even closer. He tripped & fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw & raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out, “Oh my God!” Time Stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky. “You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don’t exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer”? The atheist looked directly into the light, “It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian”? “Very well,” said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke: “Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.”
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