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Ultimate Playoff: Elite Eight
Sports Illustrated ^ | 12/06/2007 | Gennaro Filice

Posted on 12/06/2007 5:35:44 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

Vote (Freep) your picks of Virtual College Football Play-off!


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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bcs; breakingnews; football; lsu; oklahoma; playoff; uga; usc
Oh, what could have been.... I would have watched every single game. I would have worn out the remote switching between games that were scheduled at the same time.... sigh.

NCAA, College Presidents, wake up! You could be making 4 or 5 times the money with a play-off!!! And, the fans would be satisfied with a real NCAA Division I College football champion.

1 posted on 12/06/2007 5:35:44 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: GOP_Raider
please ping your list

This could be fun. :-) Unfortunately, my team (UGA - University of Georgia) is behind Oklahoma - In reality, my Dawgs would smoke the Okies.

2 posted on 12/06/2007 5:38:09 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: Positive; Terpfen; diamond6

See what you think about this.


3 posted on 12/06/2007 5:39:25 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta

One of the elements of the current bowl system is the ability for 50+ programs to continue their practice sessions well into December, if not beyond.

What a playoff would do is end that extra month of work for all but the elite 16 (I see 16 teams in the original graphic so I assume Sports Illustrated started with 16 teams).

While the money for the 16 team playoff would likely be astounding, in most respects, the current 28(!) bowls already provide an astounding payday. Money really isn’t the issue, except perhaps the distribution of it.

In the playoff system proposed by SI, the WAC, Mountain West and all the non-6 BCS conferences would have a single team participating (and perhaps receiving the dough). As it is now, there are, by my count, 15 teams receiving a payday.

This is one of the main reasons a Div 1A playoff is really not any closer to occurring.


4 posted on 12/06/2007 5:50:17 PM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: GreenAccord
Teams outside the 16 could still participate in the current smaller bowls. Typically, only the fans of those teams watch the games or travel to them so the pay-off shouldn't be any less.

Some of the money from the play-off could be distributed to non-participating teams in a profit sharing scenario.

5 posted on 12/06/2007 5:54:47 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta

That’s what I keep saying. And because there would be more games played that actually mean something the revenue would be sky high. Everyone involved would make more money than they ever dreamed of under the old non-system.


6 posted on 12/06/2007 5:57:46 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: GreenAccord
There is no need to eliminate the non-BCS bowls. They go on as usual.

The eight BCS team could play in the first round of playoffs in the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and Rose Bowls on New Year’s Day. The surviving four teams play two more rounds of playoff ending with the college championship game the “dead” weekend before the Super Bowl.

Everybody would win with this system!

7 posted on 12/06/2007 6:00:10 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: FreeAtlanta

What makes you think the colleges wouldn’t lose money on a playoff? If it is an NCAA playoff, the NCAA would control the TV rights. The last time the NCAA controlled the TV rights to college football, it skimmed 50% of each game. Why would this time be any different?

Assuming each playoff game paid as much as a major bowl does today, a team would have to win the first game just to break even (winners of the first round get to play twice). So half the field would do worse than the present situation. Winners of the second round would do better but that’s only 1/4 the field. Considering the fact that the earlier games might pay less than a big bowl, then it would be even worse.

You want a playoff? Figure out how to have one without the NCAA being involved. The NCAA really hosed up Div 1-A the last time they were in charge of TV coverage, limiting each team to a total of three regular season appearances on TV in two years. It took a supreme court ruling to break that up. (Thank the University of Oklahoma for that one. They sued. They won. The NCAA put them on probation.)


8 posted on 12/06/2007 6:01:58 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Some of the money from the play-off could be distributed to non-participating teams in a profit sharing scenario.”

That ‘profit sharing’ is exactly why this won’t work. By the time the NCAA ‘shares’ the profits, the schools in the playoffs lose money.


9 posted on 12/06/2007 6:05:42 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I’d like to see it in real life, but it’ll never happen. Too many shortsighted people are in charge who want to preserve the system of bowl games. Nevermind that a) there are too many bowl games, and b) they can become integrated into the playoffs....


10 posted on 12/06/2007 6:06:31 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: BigBobber
The eight BCS team could play in the first round of playoffs in the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and Rose Bowls on New Year’s Day.

If a playoff would be utilized, I think it would be horrific if there was a 1 month delay between the final reg. season week and the start of the playoffs.

Think about this. For the final two teams, their players would be in organized practice & play from late July to the end of January. While only true for two teams, that is still an enormous amount of days actively playing. What is that, nearly 180 days? Don't Div II & III schools play 10 weeks then have their playoffs?

As for keeping the other non-premier bowls if a playoff occurs, I guess that's conceivable.

I have more thoughts on the matter, for sure.

11 posted on 12/06/2007 6:08:23 PM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
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FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

12 posted on 12/06/2007 6:52:55 PM PST by GOP_Raider ("Thanks, Mike." -Lane Kiffin)
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To: GOP_Raider
From Austin Murphy of SI;

... Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen, who replies, "Uh, no," when asked if his conference is open to the possibility of a plus-one.

"If you seed the teams, and that's the only fair way to do it," he says, "then you're going to seed the conference champions out of their traditional bowl games. And that would be very injurious to all those games."

So "injurious" and abhorrent do Hansen and his ilk find such crime-against-nature bowl matchups that they are only too pleased to block the path to a playoff. And so tied to tradition is the Rose Bowl that, having lost Ohio State to the title game, it invited 13th-ranked Illinois, the only three-loss team to get a BCS bid, to face USC. The sport is being held hostage, as one frustrated AD puts it, "by the Rose Bowl parade."

Springing to the defense of his Pac-10 counterpart is Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, who together with Hansen forms a kind of Axis of Obstruction. Pointing out that their conferences already compromised once, back in 1998, when they joined the Bowl Alliance -- later christened the BCS -- Delany says, "We gave up a lot. I don't feel like we're takers. I feel like we're givers."

It is the rest of college football's problem that they are no longer in a giving mood. That nine-year-old decision to play ball with the Bowl Alliance "was not a first step toward a playoff," Delany emphasized last Friday, "but a last step." The Big Ten, Pac-10 and Rose Bowl recently signed an eight-year deal with ABC. (Fox has the rights to the four other BCS bowls in a contract that runs through 2014.) Says Delany, "We intend to honor that commitment."

What freaking jerks. Maybe the rest of the country should stop scheduling Pac-10 and Big Ten teams and have a play-off at the end of the season. Ignore those protectionist Delany and Hansen!

13 posted on 12/06/2007 8:12:55 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta
This to me is the money line in that piece:

The sport is being held hostage, as one frustrated AD puts it, "by the Rose Bowl parade."

14 posted on 12/06/2007 8:48:48 PM PST by GOP_Raider ("Thanks, Mike." -Lane Kiffin)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Hmm...I see a Florida/LSU rematch in this scenario. The way UF is playing now, even without the benefit of a neutral site, they’d beat LSU handily. The question then becomes, if OSU won their bracket, how far and how fast would they run away and hide to keep from playing UF again?

(C8


15 posted on 12/07/2007 5:37:06 AM PST by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: Bat_Chemist; dfwgator

What do you think of my prediction here?


16 posted on 12/07/2007 5:37:37 AM PST by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: FreeAtlanta
My plan...

The 4 main New years bowls: top 8 teams (#1 vs #8, etc)

Following sat at warm, neutral site: both semi-final games starting at 4pm and 8pm (EST)

Following sat at warm, neutral site: semi winners meet for championship

17 posted on 12/07/2007 5:46:39 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: GOP_Raider

That sums it up perfectly. I think the rest of College football should just shun the Pac-10 and Big 10. Other than USC, what do they really have to offer?


18 posted on 12/07/2007 6:06:08 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: Bat_Chemist

Yep, the two teams nobody would want to face in a playoff would be Florida and USC. Especially if our defense plays like they did against FSU. They’ve gotten much better since the Georgia game.


19 posted on 12/07/2007 6:58:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: FreeAtlanta
So "injurious" and abhorrent do Hansen and his ilk find such crime-against-nature bowl matchups

If the NCAA was serious about a playoff, Hansen and 'his ilk' are not powerful enough to stop it.

20 posted on 12/07/2007 8:25:13 AM PST by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: dfwgator

Not that I think OSU would get by Georgia, either. How would a 2nd UGA-UF game for the national championship sound? They’d HAVE to play it in Jacksonville, wouldn’t they?

(C8


21 posted on 12/07/2007 9:23:56 AM PST by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: GOP_Raider

First-round results

No. 1 Ohio State defeats No. 16 Tennessee: 136,283 (74 percent) to 47,751 (26 percent).

No. 2 LSU defeats No. 15 Clemson: 178,183 (93 percent) to 13,402 (seven percent).

No. 3 Virginia Tech defeats No. 14 Illinois: 129,160 (65 percent) to 70,678 (35 percent).

No. 4 Oklahoma defeats No. 13 Boston College: 174,327 (87 percent) to 27,819 (13 percent).

No. 5 Georgia defeats No. 12 Arizona State: 145,082 (84 percent) to 27,819 (16 percent).

No 11 Florida upsets No. 6 Missouri: 130,996 (70 percent) to 56,304 (30 percent).

No. 7 USC defeats No. 10 Hawaii: 140,157 (74 percent) to 50,217 (26 percent).

No. 9 West Virginia upsets No. 8 Kansas: 126,413 (68 percent) to 60,283 (32 percent).

22 posted on 12/07/2007 10:15:10 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: FreeAtlanta
ROFLMAO

FreeAtlanta: are you drinking more of that darn Billy beer.

You are so right however, Georgia Bullfrogs could smoke Oklahoma only if they knock out their great quarterback.

I do however believe that Georgia is a good team, to make you feel better in your stupor.

23 posted on 12/07/2007 10:27:39 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
If the Pac 10 and Big 10 were left out of the Championship game by their choice it would only last for a little while.

With out the possibility of being crowned the be in the USA their recruiting would eventually falter to schools participating in the championship.

24 posted on 12/07/2007 10:31:55 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I have proposed a 24 team playoff. Taking the top 2 teams from each conference. and having a 4 round playoff. Split the teams into east and west divisions and have a bye for the top 4 teams in each division and let the other 8 in each division play in the first round. Kind of like the NFL's Wildcard system. If they want to make college football more like the pro's then they need a playoff system. Here's what it would look like.

East Division
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
---------------------------3rd Rnd
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
------------------------------------Div Champ
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
---------------------------3rd Rnd
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
---------------------------------------------------Natl Champ
West Division
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
---------------------------3rd Rnd
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
------------------------------------Div Champ
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd
---------------------------3rd Rnd
Wild Card-----2nd Rnd


25 posted on 12/07/2007 10:55:16 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
No. 9 West Virginia UPSETS No. 8 Kansas: 126,413 (68 percent) to 60,283 (32 percent)

Upset? This wouldn't be an upset. WVU is definitely the better team. Regardless losing to Pitt. Rivalry game. Just like OSU vs Mich or Clemson for USC (South Carolina)

26 posted on 12/07/2007 11:00:01 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Sorry I’m so late in getting back to you, but my ‘pooter died and I just got it back from the shop.

That Pitt - WVU game was a heartbreaker for me. IIRC, you said at the start of the season that this would be THE crucial game for the Mountaineers. At the time I had stars in my eyes about an undefeated season and I have to say that a loss to Pitt was nowhere on my radar. Then came the loss to USF...welcome to reality! From that game on I looked at the season “one game at a time” and lo and behold, your prediction that the Backyard Brawl woud be key came true. Very nicely done, laddie!!!!

My congrats to Pitt and all their supporters for not only beating WVU, but the officials as well. That crew was horrible! IMO the NCAA should fire them all!!!!


27 posted on 12/08/2007 9:53:23 AM PST by Roccus (Hillary........brought to you by the PRC)
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To: Conservative_Jedi

It looks like UGA is going to loose to Oklahoma, but the up side is that LSU is loosing to USC and I am voting for the winner of the UGA vs. Oklahoma game over Ohio State. I want neither of the current BCS champions to make it to the final game in this match up in order to emphasize how bad the current BCS is. :-)


28 posted on 12/08/2007 4:05:02 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: Roccus

Wasn’t it one official in particular that kept making the phantom holding calls against the same Pitt receiver? If so, then someone should investigate whether he is involved in gambling or organized crime (aka, the NBA scandal).


29 posted on 12/08/2007 4:07:19 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta
In reality, my Dawgs would smoke the Okies.

Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.


30 posted on 12/08/2007 4:09:13 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: OKIEDOC

I wish we would get the chance to find out. Alas, we will never know.


31 posted on 12/08/2007 4:10:44 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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