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United States: State Sponsor of Judeophobia
Arutz Sheva ^ | 12/07/07 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 12/07/2007 12:32:30 AM PST by Iron Munro

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To: montag813
Bush couldn't give two sh*ts about substantive "peace". He is in "legacy mode", which for the last 3 Administrations has meant one thing: F*ck the Jews. 15 of 19 9/11 mass-murderers were Saudi? No problem, we won't hold them accountable. Palestinian men, women and children danced in the streets as the WTC fell, burying 3,000 in the rubble? No problem, let's reward them with a "state". It is all utter madness. All because of oil.

What a silly, ignorant response. In your world, maybe we can just snap our fingers and the Palestinians will love Israel, but I'm sorry, there is very, very little the US can do about that. And how, exactly, is our buying oil from Saudi Arabia a "F the Jews" stance? The president of the United States is responsible for AMERICAN LIVES. American lives depend on oil. Where will the oil come from to heat American homes if we suddenly don't deal with Saudi Arabia--Israel? Your laughable accusation that a "legacy" depends on "F the Jews" shows your paranoia, but very little grasp on REALITY. The hijackers were Saudi nationals--okay, and...? They were MUSLIMS. Their nationality only matters to folks like you, who are ultra-nationalists who see EVERYTHING in national identity. It's ideology that's important, not country of origin. You have no proof the Saudis were behind 9-11--SOME Saudis were. We are now to simply destroy the economy of America, let Americans DIE from lack of heating oil in the winter, millions thrown out of work...and for what? Because that will somehow bring peace to Israel? Please explain THAT bit of magic to us.

Sorry, I'm an American--I am very pro-Israel, but America is my primary interest. Guess what? That's how Israelis think about Israel--that's THEIR #1 concern, as it should be. Israel has a great friend in the US--I guess we pour millions into Israel because we want to "F" them?--but Israel's peace is going to come from Israel. Your paranoid anger is certainly interesting, but it's more "Oh, it's all the US's fault"--and all I can say to that silly sentiment is, F THAT, friend.

41 posted on 12/08/2007 7:08:29 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (...sigh...)
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To: SJackson
a morally bankrupt Condi Rice. And George Bush.

Yes, because Bush and Rice COULD have delivered peace and joy and prosperity to Israel, but they didn't. Uh huh.

42 posted on 12/08/2007 7:10:27 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (...sigh...)
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To: SJackson
but as far as Rice is concerned, the Palestinians are the innocent victims. They are the ones who are discriminated against and humiliated, not Livni, who was forced—by Rice—to enter the conference through the service entrance.

For the first time since Bush was elected I'm almost ashamed to say that I voted for him. Rice should be fired first thing tomorrow morning if she is responsible for this disgraceful treatment of one of our very few real friends in the entire world. IMHO she should be fired anyway, she has shown over and over that she has no expertise at conducting foreign policy in our own best interests, and her public fawning over murderous Arab leaders is disgusting.

I don't know what has gone haywire with Bush in this 2nd term, at times he hardly seems like the same man he was early in his first term. It seems that he has never met a bloodthirsty Arab or an illegal Mexican immigrant who he didn't fall in love with on sight. If I knew for sure that a true conservative Republican would win in 08 I would be anxiously waiting for Bush's term to end and be done with him once and for all.

43 posted on 12/08/2007 7:41:49 PM PST by epow
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To: Darkwolf377
In your world, maybe we can just snap our fingers and the Palestinians will love Israel, but I'm sorry, there is very, very little the US can do about that.

Who said we have to make anyone love Israel. Nor should we be brow-beating an ally to create a "state" out of people who cheered as the Towers fell, a reality you seem to want to deny. Ever hear of the Bush Doctrine?

American lives depend on oil. Where will the oil come from to heat American homes if we suddenly don't deal with Saudi Arabia--Israel?

I guess I can add reading comprehension to your list of shortcomings. Did you not see where I wrote "It's all out oil"?

Your laughable accusation that a "legacy" depends on "F the Jews" shows your paranoia, but very little grasp on REALITY.

I said the past 3 Admins made screwing Israel the focal point of their "legacy" efforts. Madrid/Oslo; Taba; Annapolis. You have not refuted this, but continue your childish name-calling. I guess when you said "What a silly, ignorant response" you were merely previewing your own screed.

folks like you, who are ultra-nationalists who see EVERYTHING in national identity

You lose me there. States are sponsors of terrorism. Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia. This is not some Imam writing checks.

We are now to simply destroy the economy of America, let Americans DIE from lack of heating oil in the winter, millions thrown out of work...and for what? Because that will somehow bring peace to Israel?

Are you saying if Condi Rice doesn't force Israelis to use the servant's entrance at Annapolis or force them to vivisect Jersusalem that Saudi Arabia will cut off its oil supplies to us--at a time when we have 200,000 troops 600 miles away from Riyadh? Who's being paranoid now?

Sorry, I'm an American--I am very pro-Israel, but America is my primary interest.

As is mine. Which is why I am so dismayed by my country throwing the Bush Doctrine to the wind and appeasing terrorists and state sponsors of terror in a misguided and naive attempt to curry favor from them which will never come until Israel and all its inhabitants are wiped from the map.

44 posted on 12/08/2007 8:00:05 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
I guess I can add reading comprehension to your list of shortcomings.

Coming from someone who just cuts and pastes the lunatic ravings of Michael Savage, that's a laugh and a half.

Your posts contain nothing original, nothing coming from the real world, it's all just blather from the usual backseat drivers who can only regurgitate cliches and spout attitude over facts, fantasy over reality. Now run, you've got that Ron Paul rally to attend.

45 posted on 12/08/2007 8:09:18 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (...sigh...)
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Coming from someone who just cuts and pastes the lunatic ravings of Michael Savage, that's a laugh and a half.

Care to provide any backup for this charge in the form of "source" material? Of course not. Your speciality is ad hominem attacks.

Now run, you've got that Ron Paul rally to attend.

Ron Paul is on your Arab ass-kissing side, actually. Boy what a waste of time trying to converse with such a lazy poster. No points answered, just insults borne of ignorance.

46 posted on 12/10/2007 8:28:23 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
Your speciality is ad hominem attacks....Boy what a waste of time trying to converse with such a lazy poster. No points answered, just insults borne of ignorance.

The irony of you whining about insults, when anyone can back up and see your swear-filled initial posting to me, is as funny as you are ignorant. You calling someone else a lazy poster because of "no points answered" when anyone can see your lunatic Bush-hatred--and you can't tell the difference between your silly "It's all about oil" rant and my pointing out that oil is an important component in a large picture--has zero contact with reality, is as lunatic as your posts are empty.

You engaging in political debate is like a fish shooting pool with a rope. Now please, refrain from posting to me in the future--I prefer someone who has some facts and original thinking going on, not fools who can't keep their own stories straight.

47 posted on 12/10/2007 10:10:29 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Fred's the only one I can get at all enthusiastic about.)
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