Posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:37 AM PST by ZGuy
You said — “He is trying to make it seem that our opposition to him is about his mormonism.”
Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t vote for any member of any cult group, no matter who they are or what the cult group.
It’s a “process of elimination” and that’s the first item on the agenda for me, in order to eliminate candidates. That’s first, and then after that, then I’ll get into their record. For me, Romney didn’t get past the religious cult part...
Regards,
Star Traveler
You were saying — “Think about it: if the issue of the strangeness in Mormonism were not a significant issue, why would Romney make a speech about religion trying to prevent open opposition on the grounds of his religion?”
You know, the “strangeness part” if seen from the “outside” — from someone who doesn’t believe in any religion at all, is probably just as strange from one religion to another. I mean, Christianity seems “not strange”, only because it’s so ingrained into our society. And also, because it has a lot of proof and evidence backing up the Bible as the Word of God. So, we (as Christians) have become accustomed to what others would consider strange. We have seen the proofs and know it is the truth.
Thus, I don’t think of it in terms of “strange” or not. For me, it’s a matter of truth or not. The Bible and the doctrines and teachings of Christianity have the evidences and proofs over the centuries and it has not been proven to be wrong in many things it has spoken about that can be tested and proven.
And talking about Mormonism, it has way too many things that are simply wrong. Take the history of the Americas, for example. There are civilizations spoken about that have absolutely no existence at all in history or any artifacts or cities or anything like that. They are totally missing.
And with Mormonism, it goes against the more verifiable Bible account of things.
So, it’s not a “strangeness” issue with me (in regards to Mormonism), because Christianity can have some fairly strange things in it, too. It’s a “truthfulness” issue and the doctrines and teachings of the Mormon church fail miserably in that regard. The teachings and doctrines of the Mormon church are miserably false.
Why am I going to vote for a guy for President who believes in a cult religion that shows no evidences of the civilizations that it says existed in the Americas and thus — shows that he “falls for false information” like is being taught by the Mormon Church. That’s not the kind of President of the United States that I want — one that cannot sort out *truth* from error...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Regards,
Star Traveler
Ol' Joe didn't say that; but that it wasn't TRUE.
But you, as a good scholar, knew that.
Now then; just which PART of it makes it UNtrue?
Man!
I miss those C vs E threads!
Dang!
Who’d I offend with my post below this one?? #628
Dang!
If I knew which was which, I could work on correcting my errors.
Please be more specific when mentioning them; ok??
HA HA ha!
What percentage of LDS organization members meet those requirements??
““I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ””
If this quote can be attributed to J Smith true then my fears about mormonism have been substantiated.
You can watch it restonu. He comes on at minute 50. Just bring thr curser to that point.
Ok then, go right ahead.
I used to go to this farmer's market by my house, because people told me that farmer's market food is better than grocery store food, I bought into the hype. Until the "Product of Peru" bands showed up on the vegetables, odd we didn't even notice until then they tasted like plain old grocery vegetables. Now I save myself a trip and buy everything at Albertson's.
Oh!
It was Enchilada that posted #628; not me!
Whoo!
I thought I had been bad!
What did Enchilada post that got it pulled??
Sorry; it's not SILLY at all.
The LDS organization has SECRETS it keeps from those considered unworthy.
Even the worthy ones are commanded to keep secret the things they have been told.
The organization tries to varnish that fact over by calling the secret things SACRED.
I'm sorry if this makes unworthy outsiders suspect your religion just a wee bit; but Hey!; that's how us humans tick!
ARRGGHH!!!!
I got the NUMBER!!
Beware, Dudes!
If it is NOT found in our OFFICIAL SCRIPTURES; then we can dismiss it with a wave of the hand.
--MormonDude(My man surely wouldn't say something like that! [where it could be recorded.] )
I've started a Ravi Zacharias file of his presentations (by links, I don't have storage space for the videos). As Obi Wan would say, 'the force is strong with that one' ... it is exquisite joy to hear a man filled with the Holy Spirit. Thnak you again
I didn’t realize it had been pulled.
If it was the one directed to me, and I think it was, then I believe she did it as a courtesy to me because of a problem in the post..
I was so caught up in El Shaddai and Emmanuel, singing out loud with the video, my cats thought something was about to happen in here!... And it was.
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