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Thre Golden Compass: Dusted (MTV Movie Review: clutter, confusion, and strangely lacks magic)
MTV Movie News ^ | December 7, 2007 | Kurt Loder

Posted on 12/07/2007 10:43:59 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Where are Harry and Frodo when you really need them?

Here is a magical-mystery movie with everything money can eagerly buy: big-name stars, boffo effects, a story pre-sold in a mass-cult fantasy novel. The only thing "The Golden Compass" lacks, alas, is magic. And its mystery is a little too mysterious.

The picture looks great — director Chris Weitz and his town-size team of digital technicians have created a fantasy world of misty cities, gleaming dirigibles and intricate steampunk gadgetry that really pops. But in attempting to cram as much as possible of Philip Pullman's 400-page novel into a two-hour movie, Weitz — who wrote the script after nixing Tom Stoppard's pass at one — gives us both way too much and much too little. We're so pounded down by all the exposition in the beginning, and then by the stampede of daemons and bears and mechanical insects arriving in its wake, that fans of the book may slump in despair, and non-fans in simple indifference.

The story is set in a parallel world that resembles Victorian England. There's even a parallel Oxford University, where spunky little Lyra Belacqua (Dakota Blue Richards) is happily ensconced as the ward of the scientist-explorer Lord Asriel (Daniel Craig, who's in the movie for about as long as it might take you or me to hail a cab). The free-thinking Asriel is a heretical figure to the sinister Magisterium (think the Catholic Church — Pullman did, although New Line Cinema really hopes you won't). Both Asriel and the Magisterium are obsessed with something called Dust, a shimmery substance that no one entirely understands, least of all us.

About the time Asriel decides to take off for northern polar regions in search of the source of this stuff, the glamorous Mrs. Coulter (blazingly-blonde Nicole Kidman) arrives on the scene, making a runway entrance into a vast university dining hall that's so blatantly Hogwartsian, you half-expect to see Albus Dumbledore go gliding by, possibly in drag.

By this point, you'll have noticed that all the characters in the movie are walking around with little animals perched on their shoulders or yipping around their feet. These are the above-noted daemons — advisors, protectors, stand-ins for the soul, you might say. Little kids have cute daemons: birds, butterflies, fuzzy quadrupeds of various endearing sorts. The evil operatives of the Magisterium lean more toward serpents. Mrs. Coulter's daemon is a monkey, which I found to be a stumper.

Anyway, Mrs. Coulter offers to take Lyra to "the North," as it's called (think Norway), unaware that Lyra has been hoping to follow in Asriel's footsteps and maybe get to the bottom of this Dust thing. By now we've also learned that a group called the Gobblers — nefarious minions of the Magisterium — have been kidnapping children, and before long we're further informed that they've been spiriting the kids off to a snowbound laboratory to perform alarming experiments on them. Lyra is enraged, but Mrs. Coulter takes a suspiciously sympathetic view of Magisterial undertakings: "They keep things working by telling people what to do."

I haven't mentioned the alethiometer — the titular Golden Compass. This is a nifty device that can tell all truths and reveal all that others wish to hide (if I may slip into the fancy-speak of the story for a moment). Nor have I touched upon the armored Ice Bears — and there's a whole kingdom full of them. Lyra recruits one of these enormous creatures, named Iorek, to accompany her on her polar quest.

She also gets backup from another outfit called the Gyptians, who sail about in a pirate-y schooner. Then there's a drawling, Stetson-topped cowboy "aeronaut" named Scoresby (Sam Elliott — even his rabbit demon has a cracker accent), and a sky full of fierce witches armed with bows and arrows. I'm leaving stuff out, believe me.

Admirers of Pullman's book, who've invariably followed this tale through to its third-volume conclusion, marvel at the story's scope and depth of purpose. The movie strives mightily to stuff in hints of those things, but the result is mostly clutter and confusion. (In this regard, lopping off the book's ending, which had actually been shot, is something of a puzzlement.)

I'm guessing part of the fault for the picture's shortcomings probably lies in New Line micromanagement. Having grossed billions with its "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, the company has surely latched on to the similarly tripartite "His Dark Materials" with visions of another corporate cash-wallow. But this one ain't that one. The first "Rings" movie set up the story with ravishing clarity: good Hobbits, bad wizards, evil ring. "The Golden Compass" (which reportedly cost $200 million to make, approximately two thirds of the budget for the entire "Rings" trilogy) buries us in so much desperate explication that the shape of the story never really emerges. The picture ends with the promise — or the threat — of a sequel. Given the numbers, and this movie's probable reception, I'm betting it never gets made.


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Last paragraph of MTV review:

The picture ends with the promise — or the threat — of a sequel. Given the numbers, and this movie's probable reception, I'm betting it never gets made.

1 posted on 12/07/2007 10:44:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ouch.

I'm most amazed that Kurt Loder can actually write this well. Who'da thunk it?
2 posted on 12/07/2007 10:49:18 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What is that strange high-pitched whistling sound?...

Well, it sounds like a.... like a... BOMB!!!

3 posted on 12/07/2007 10:52:13 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Maybe it’s because Tolkien set out to make a good mythology, Lewis set out to mirror the TRUE mythology, and Pullman set out to lambaste both of them. Like with liberals making movies like An American President or Dave, Pullman sees that the only time his side wins is by creating fantasies in which he wins.

I hope this will teach New Line that they can’t just add good graphics and A-list celebrities to a movie to make it truly great. The story has to be great too. And when MTV dislikes the movie, it’s obviously not a great story.

Half the box-office take on this movie will be from Michael Newdow and the ACLU anyway.

And as a final twist of the dagger, they’ll probably be showing trailers for Pullman’s arch rival, the Chronicles of Narnia, in front of Golden Compass. How marvelous.


4 posted on 12/07/2007 10:54:32 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (May your days be merry and bright, and may all your Christmases be white.)
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To: gridlock

Hmm, to me it sounds like Michael Newdow on his way to the theater.


5 posted on 12/07/2007 10:55:21 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (May your days be merry and bright, and may all your Christmases be white.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Joe Morgenstern of the Wall Street Journal also panned The Golden Compass in his movie review today. He also informed that the movie was from United Artists, which TC is now a part owner since parting with Viacom. UA has yet to release a commercially successful movie since the Cruiser has been aboard.
6 posted on 12/07/2007 10:56:14 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Admirers of Pullman's book, who've invariably followed this tale through to its third-volume conclusion ...

I didn't. I've known a number of people who started the series, liked the beginning, and dropped the thing as they got deeper in. I don't know anyone who actually managed to finish it. The hidden message becomes very off-putting when it becomes no-longer hidden.

7 posted on 12/07/2007 11:01:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am going to go see it in about an hour. I’ll get back to give give it a thumbs up or thumbs down. Or maybe one of each.


8 posted on 12/07/2007 11:06:43 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
So MTV, the NYT and the WSJ all thought The Golden Compass was either flwed or just a bomb.

The only reviewer to give it two thumbs up so far seems to be the USCCB.

Clowns.

9 posted on 12/07/2007 11:09:28 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Given the numbers, and this movie's probable reception, I'm betting it never gets made.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

10 posted on 12/07/2007 11:12:36 AM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bumping for this PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

The film “The Golden Compass” STINKS!

You can save your money on this “Golden Turkey” even if you are
an atheist/agnostic.

We now return you to a thread on the ultra-right-wing Internet forum,
www.freerepublic.com


11 posted on 12/07/2007 11:13:45 AM PST by VOA
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To: ClearCase_guy
I read it all, the first one with a big-gulp fascination (Lyra really does have gamine charm) but the rest in smaller and smaller takes. The feeling gets to be that of some poison dripping into your veins. By the end, it manages to be both repulsive and boring. Even where the children actually kill God ----- pffft.

Interesting, though, that Pullman's fellow Oxonian, C.S. Lewis, predicted him 50 years ago to a T. He's not even a real atheist. H's somebody who thinks you can give Tinkerbell and her Fairy Dust a solemn intellectual respectability by poking her with a stick and making her intone, (deeply) "You understand, of course, it's Quantum Physics." Pullman's --- in Lewis' terms --- a Materialist Magician.

I think we can expect more of this.

12 posted on 12/07/2007 11:15:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Folderol.)
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To: wideawake
The only reviewer to give it two thumbs up so far seems to be the USCCB.

Yeah, but two thumbs up what?

13 posted on 12/07/2007 11:25:59 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: Antoninus

He started as a critic for Rolling Stone.


14 posted on 12/07/2007 11:26:53 AM PST by Borges
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To: Antoninus

Why do you think youth-worshipping MTV has kept him on as the only adult representative of it’s “news” division.

Sayyy, now I’M getting an idea for a great fantasy epic: it’s about an television entertainment network that was once visonary, artistic and cutting-edge, but that abandoned it’s business model for the lowest common-denominator and now steals the innocence and sucks the souls of young children...


15 posted on 12/07/2007 11:26:58 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; DaveLoneRanger

Have to wonder one thing, though - did this guy pan the LotR movies and the first Chronicles of Narnia, too?


16 posted on 12/07/2007 11:33:19 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My daughter wants to see this. We’ve discussed it and I have told her why we will not see it. Then, I told her that one of the reviewers called it the “Chronicles of Yawnia”. She is a smart cookie. She has since changed her mind.
My nephew manages a movie theater and we would not go to see it for free there. Period.

We will, however, be going to see Enchanted for the third time, right after the practice for the Nativity Play on Saturday.

I’m putting James Marsden’s kids through college.


17 posted on 12/07/2007 11:33:40 AM PST by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I got bored halfway through the review and couldn't finish it. But I'm still afraid that the special effects and effective advertising will bring the kiddies in over Christmas vacation.

The picture looks great — director Chris Weitz and his town-size team of digital technicians have created a fantasy world of misty cities, gleaming dirigibles and intricate steampunk gadgetry that really pops.
While adults may get bored with shiny empty boxes, kids won't. Or at least there's enough in the ads to get the kids nagging mom and dad to see it.
18 posted on 12/07/2007 11:33:51 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Enterprise
I’ll get back to give give it a thumbs up or thumbs down. Or maybe one of each.

I give it, "The Finger."

19 posted on 12/07/2007 11:34:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I’ll let you know if I give it that too!


20 posted on 12/07/2007 11:35:15 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Kurt Loder’s a libertarian/conservative believe it or not...


21 posted on 12/07/2007 11:35:20 AM PST by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: sinanju

“it’s about an television entertainment network that was once visonary, artistic and cutting-edge, but that abandoned it’s business model for the lowest common-denominator and now steals the innocence and sucks the souls of young children...”

I’m sorry but you need to be more precise. Your description could fit almost any network.


22 posted on 12/07/2007 11:44:51 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Mrs. Don-o
When I first read Lewis' material on the "materialist magician" (in The Screwtape Letters, I suppose), I didn't really get it, and couldn't think of many modern manifestations of that idea. In more recent years, however, the concept has become very concrete and obvious.
23 posted on 12/07/2007 11:45:43 AM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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To: Aquinasfan
While adults may get bored with shiny empty boxes, kids won't. Or at least there's enough in the ads to get the kids nagging mom and dad to see it.

"Golden Compass" is being heavily promoted on Nickelodeon, with lots of "behind the scenes" info-mercials.

24 posted on 12/07/2007 11:46:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Given the numbers, and this movie's probable reception, I'm betting it never gets made.

It will create a real dilemma for them - risk losing money, or lose a shot to make some anti-Christian propaganda.

I'd bet they'd opt for the propaganda, and let the shareholders take any loss.

25 posted on 12/07/2007 11:47:16 AM PST by PAR35
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To: COBOL2Java

We rented a movie a few months ago with a teaser for The Golden Compass. It looked really cool, but I remember consciously thinking, why is this teaser so incredibly long? Is the movie that bad?

Apparently it is... I won’t be seing it. I learned with the last Star Wars movies that it takes more than cool special effects to pull a stinker out of the basement.


26 posted on 12/07/2007 11:51:48 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Some say Tolkien Lord of the Rings was about the rise of Germany, Hitler and WWII.


27 posted on 12/07/2007 11:59:40 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Good ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Has anyone heard of any product tie-ins with the film? You know how McDonald’s or Burger King will promote movies with their Happy Meal toys, on their soda cups, etc?
28 posted on 12/07/2007 12:54:28 PM PST by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: Nevadan
Here's New Line's Press Release touting the tie=ins. A few paragraphs:

LOS ANGELES (Nov. 7, 2007) – New Line Cinema today announced a wide array of promotional partners to support its upcoming fantasy adventure The Golden Compass including Coca-Cola, World Wildlife Fund, Sega, Wal-Mart, Borders, Barnes & Noble, Best Buy, Amazon.com, Emusic, FAO Schwarz, Target, Corgi International, Trans World Entertainment, Circuit City, Marie Claire and Scholastic.

... New Line has over 75 licensed partners producing hundreds of Golden Compass-related products worldwide....

...- Coca-Cola will create 12 million co-branded cups to be used in thousands of movie theaters worldwide and will feature a tie-in to its My COKE Rewards program including a co-branded landing page on the program website. Coca-Cola will also create theater displays and on-screen advertisements promoting The Golden Compass. This marks only the fourth time that Coca-Cola has done a Global Concession Program of this kind.

- World Wildlife Fund will launch a special website at www.worldwildlife.org/goldencompass where visitors can view a panoramic lineup of the animal spirits or “daemons” from the film and can “adopt” a real-life animal whose species is featured in the film – including polar bears, snow leopards, and monkeys - through the site. The partnership also includes a PSA about global warming that is voiced by Dakota Blue Richards and a sweepstakes featuring a grand prize trip for four to Manitoba, Canada, to view polar bears in their natural habitat.

- Sega is the exclusive worldwide interactive partner for The Golden Compass and is producing the official video game for the film, scheduled for release beginning December 1st in the United States. Sega will release the title on seven platforms, supported by a multi-million dollar marketing campaign that includes TV, print, and in-theater advertising as well as extensive in-store signage.

- Burger King International will launch an aggressive program spanning Europe, Asia and Latin America that will include a kids meal program featuring 10 premium items based on characters, vehicles and objects from the world of the Golden Compass.

- In Japan, Toyota will run a tie-in partnership to launch their new family car NOVA.

- Cereal Partners Worldwide will feature The Golden Compass on 20 million cereal boxes throughout Europe, Australia, New Zealand and parts of Asia.

ETCETERA AD NAUSEAM.

29 posted on 12/07/2007 1:18:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Folderol.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Peter Jackson’s success was based on his realization that Tolkien’s material was the best..but he knew how to edit what he had to do for the film. Just goes to show that great CGI can’t cover for the lack of a compelling story and well-structured story. Tolkien wanted to tell a myth NOT to degrade religion but to illustrate the fight between good and evil AND the “eucatastrophe” or joy that comes from good defeating evil..


30 posted on 12/07/2007 1:20:20 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: netmilsmom

One of my high school students said “Enchanted” was fabulous! Good to hear another thumbs up


31 posted on 12/07/2007 1:23:17 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Freedom_Is_Good; DaveLoneRanger
Some say Tolkien Lord of the Rings was about the rise of Germany, Hitler and WWII.

Tolkien addressed that issue in one of his essays. (I don't remember which one, but I will try to reread some of them over Christmas vacation.) He said that The Lord of the Rings is not allegory. In allegory the images and figures in the story can be reduced to a single meaning that the author intended. The story could have been stated directly without the fanciful imagery. Tolkien didn't like allegory.

He said that he wrote mythology. The main characteristic of myth is that everyone can bring to it their own meaning. So for some, Sauron's empire is a story about Nazi Germany. For others it is about the Soviet Union. For still others it is about the relentless battle of evil against good. With a good myth, every generation can bring their own meaning to the story.

So, interpret the story as you like.

32 posted on 12/07/2007 1:30:28 PM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The villain is a blonde woman named Mrs. “Coulter”? That can’t be an accident!


33 posted on 12/07/2007 2:09:14 PM PST by News Junkie (Faith and Reason)
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To: gridlock

LOL!


34 posted on 12/07/2007 2:12:32 PM PST by notbuyingit2
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks for the list.
I wonder if all these companies are aware of how offensive the ideology of the movie is to so many people of faith.
35 posted on 12/07/2007 2:39:41 PM PST by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: dfwgator; Mrs. Don-o

Well, I saw it and I enjoyed it. I give it one and three quarters thumbs up. I haven’t read any of the books, and I don’t intend to. As for the movie, I looked at it as nothing more than a fanciful tale of an alternate universe, an alternate reality and an alternate religion. As an old sci-fi reader, I have come across all these themes before. This movie will no more influence my beliefs than would a book like “Stranger In a Strange Land” by Robert A. Heinlein. It’s just a movie.


36 posted on 12/07/2007 2:48:56 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: News Junkie
I noted that. The villain was Mrs. Coulter. I thought, oh give me a break.
37 posted on 12/07/2007 2:50:12 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

That they do, that they do. They’re wrong. :-)


38 posted on 12/07/2007 2:54:01 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (May your days be merry and bright, and may all your Christmases be white.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Weitz — who wrote the script after nixing Tom Stoppard's pass at one

Well, that was a major mistake. Tom Stoppard writes marvelously insightful and witty material.

39 posted on 12/07/2007 3:00:40 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: stripes1776

In other words; just like Bob Dylan’s lyrics.


40 posted on 12/07/2007 7:20:21 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Enterprise

Was the book’s villainess named Coulter? And was the book written recently enough that the author would’ve known about our beloved Ann?


41 posted on 12/07/2007 7:32:58 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
I haven't read any of the books, but there is reference to a Mrs. Coulter in 2006.

"But before she can begin her search for Roger, Lyra is introduced to Mrs. Coulter, a beautiful and bewitching woman. Mrs. Coulter is a scholar and an explorer - seemingly everything that Lyra could ever hope to be. Mrs. Coulter takes Lyra under her wing and employs her as an assistant to help in the next expedition to explore the Arctic North. On the morning she is to leave Jordan College, the Master of the school gives Lyra an alethiometer, a rare and powerful instrument with the power to reveal the truth in all things."

The Golden Compass

42 posted on 12/07/2007 7:48:36 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In other words instead of magical creatures with purpose and goodness as in LOTR— we have lots of smelly brown spots scrambling and confused.


43 posted on 12/07/2007 7:54:14 PM PST by eleni121 ((+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I dont care about the politics behind it, but the movie was amazing. And just because a bunch of nutbags say its anti-christian, and put a “fatwa” on it, doesnt make it so. If you are a free thinker who has a brain of his own, you should first see the movie and then judge it by yourself. I personally dont think it is anti-christian, just got some striking resemblance to the catholic-church authority figure. Overall, a highly entertaining and extremely creative movie.


44 posted on 12/08/2007 1:26:33 AM PST by design engineer
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To: VOA

Have you actually seen it before condemning it as a “bore” ? The armored polar bears, the cute innocent but sharp as a razor child Lyra, the fantastic visuals and the very concept of the movie - highly creative !


45 posted on 12/08/2007 1:31:29 AM PST by design engineer
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To: Antoninus

Loder actually seems to have something of a brain. For real, I mean, not just relative to the average person who appears on MTV. All you need to do is spell “cat” without using a “k” and you’re already in the upper 10% of the MTV class.


46 posted on 12/08/2007 1:37:16 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: design engineer
Moderate Christian, huh?

Why do you think the movie has anti-Christian overtones? Perhaps that’s what the author intended?

You haven’t done YOUR research before criticism of “nutbag” Christians. You call it “free thinking” but your just “freely stinking.”

Good night.

47 posted on 12/08/2007 1:47:33 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: design engineer

“The armored polar bears, the cute innocent but sharp as a razor child Lyra, the fantastic visuals and the very concept of the movie - highly creative !”

Yeah, and all the kids will love the creatures, and want to buy the books, and therein lies the problem, as they all get indoctrinated into atheism.


48 posted on 12/08/2007 1:50:27 AM PST by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: design engineer
And just because a bunch of nutbags say its anti-christian

Uh, the "nutbag" who said that was Philip Pullman, the author of the books:
"I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief," says Pullman.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A23371-2001Feb18?language=printer
49 posted on 12/08/2007 2:08:34 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Mrs. Coulter's daemon is a monkey, which I found to be a stumper.

Can the guy possibly be this stupid?
50 posted on 12/08/2007 2:50:24 AM PST by aruanan
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