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Rhode Island Just Says "No" to Massachusetts "Marriage"
Nat'l Review On-Line (The Corner) ^ | Friday, December 07, 2007 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 12/07/2007 12:22:30 PM PST by PurpleMan

Edited on 12/07/2007 8:45:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Rhode Island Just Says "No" to Massachusetts "Marriage"   [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Bill Duncan at the Marriage Law Foundation alerts me to a ruling that just came down in Rhode Island. The supreme court ruled in a 3-2 decisions that the state will not recognize a Massachusetts same-sex marriage.

The case involved a Rhode Island same-sex couple who had gone to Massachusetts to marry and later sought a divorce in a Rhode Island Family Court. The majority of the state supreme court said the definition of marriage in the statute that gives the courts jurisdiction to grant divorces means the union of a man and a woman.

The decision is online here.

This decision seems to further isolate Massachusetts as the redefining marriage state.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; rhodeisland; ruling; samesexmarriage
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Rhode Island will not recognize MA's same-sex marriage law?

Is something (besides the Narragansett freezing over?

1 posted on 12/07/2007 12:22:32 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Guess they don’t want Newport to become another P-town.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 12:23:57 PM PST by AU72
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To: PurpleMan

Warning to Rhode Island residents: the margin of ERROR is just one. Don’t know how those justices are chosen, but there are exactly two that should not be retained.


3 posted on 12/07/2007 12:25:57 PM PST by AbeKrieger (I judge you on the content of your character.)
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To: PurpleMan

R.I. is tired of being referred to as “Worcestor-by-the-Sea”.


4 posted on 12/07/2007 12:28:50 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: PurpleMan

Congrats RI on getting it right, but 3-2 is too close—if you ask me.


5 posted on 12/07/2007 12:29:03 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: PurpleMan

all the homoactivists are doing the “we just need to replace one” and the law professors are going to push harder to ensure future candidates from their law schools create a conservative proof lawyer pool.


6 posted on 12/07/2007 12:31:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: PurpleMan

Why is it 3-2 and not 5-zip?


7 posted on 12/07/2007 12:36:38 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Clintonfatigued; zendari; fieldmarshaldj

Ping


8 posted on 12/07/2007 12:42:11 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: theDentist

Never heard that one!


9 posted on 12/07/2007 12:46:26 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: AbeKrieger

Justices in RI are chosen in the time honored Rogue’s Island tradition.

They are chosen from the ranks of in-laws, campaign donors and political hangers on who owe, or are owed a favor.


10 posted on 12/07/2007 12:50:08 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: ConservaTexan

Despite voting for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry by huge margins, RI has a pro-life Republican Governor. He was re-elected last year while Lincoln Chafee was booted out.


11 posted on 12/07/2007 12:50:17 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: Andy'smom

Something my Grandmother used to say when she lived there long ago. I remembered it when I read the story.


12 posted on 12/07/2007 12:50:45 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: PurpleMan

My question is why do the lezzies even bother. They are just a sick joke, no matter what some corrupt activist judge from Romneyland says.

Just sneak off somewhere, find another carpet to graze, and forget about it.


13 posted on 12/07/2007 12:53:04 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: PurpleMan
The case involved a Rhode Island same-sex couple who had gone to Massachusetts to marry and later sought a divorce in a Rhode Island Family Court. The majority of the state supreme court said the definition of marriage in the statute that gives the courts jurisdiction to grant divorces means the union of a man and a woman.

The decision is online here.

This decision seems to further isolate Massachusetts as the redefining marriage state.

............................................

Massachusetts, hmmmmm. Who was Governor when the law came into effect? The name escapes me.

14 posted on 12/07/2007 12:54:08 PM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: PurpleMan

The opinion (linked in the article) is a fun read - the court took several swipes at the Massachussetts judiciary by stating that statutes cannot be changed by judicial action and must be left to the legislature. The dissent goes off on an “oh, how sad that these poor people can’t get a divorce” rant. And here I thought homosexuals were supposed to have such stable relationships, putting us straight people to shame.


15 posted on 12/07/2007 12:55:04 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: PurpleMan

OK, so now the Antiamerican Criminal Lawyers’ Union will take it to the Supreme Court and use a 14th Amendment “Incorporation” or “Full Faith and Credit” argument and FORCE RI to accept it.


16 posted on 12/07/2007 12:55:18 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ConservaTexan

Victory is victory


17 posted on 12/07/2007 1:04:25 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Kuksool

Isn’t the gay mayor of Providence, David Cicilline, planning to run for governor?


18 posted on 12/07/2007 1:08:00 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: PurpleMan

If the union was never legal in the first place, then why would there need to be any divorce proceedings?


19 posted on 12/07/2007 1:17:42 PM PST by pnh102
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To: pnh102
If the union was never legal in the first place, then why would there need to be any divorce proceedings?

That was the thrust of the decision, by the majority. Since the "marriage" was never legal under Rhode Island law in the first place, a "divorce" is moot...

the infowarrior

20 posted on 12/07/2007 1:33:25 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Andy'smom

I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised. However, being Providence Mayor isn’t the best jumping-off point to becoming Governor. Very few have ever made the transition. Buddy Cianci (back when he was a Republican) tried to run in 1980, but was destroyed by a 3-to-1 margin by Joseph Garrahy, the Dem incumbent.


21 posted on 12/07/2007 2:19:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: PurpleMan

Congratulations, Rhode Island. God bless you all.


22 posted on 12/07/2007 2:28:59 PM PST by Faith
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To: hsalaw

I read the version that the Providence Journal has and the justices seemed to lament that they were forced to base their opion on an outdated statute. I think the citizens of Rhode Island need to stay on top of this.


23 posted on 12/07/2007 2:46:43 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: PurpleMan

there is something called the ‘full faith and credit clause” in the US Constitution that ensures that most licenses, contracts, etc. entered into in one state will be honored by all other states.

It will be interesting to see if this is appealed to the SCT and if so, what their ruling will be.


24 posted on 12/07/2007 4:02:47 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wagglebee

This is a surprise.


25 posted on 12/07/2007 4:51:24 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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26 posted on 12/07/2007 4:55:25 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Why is it 3-2 and not 5-zip?

Because RI is LOUSY with Democrats.

27 posted on 12/07/2007 4:59:51 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: squaddawg1983

The citizens of MA keep trying to get the chance to vote on the decision, but the Democrat weenies in the legislature don’t let us. I guess they don’t want to be targeted by the homosexual mafia which WILL go after them, politically.


29 posted on 12/07/2007 7:00:38 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: squaddawg1983

Yeah, it’s disgusting, and hopefully, we won’t have to deal with it for too much longer. We’re remodeling our house to get it on the market next year, and then we’re OUTTA here! We’re heading back home to MS.


31 posted on 12/07/2007 8:11:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: PurpleMan

Thank God for this miracle in a surprising place.


33 posted on 12/07/2007 8:49:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker (If Fox were part of the VRWC they wouldn’t be shilling for Rudy.)
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To: Leisler

Romney opposed it while he was in office. Democrat legislature and justices supported it.

Guess who loses?


34 posted on 12/07/2007 9:41:54 PM PST by misterrob (Twelve down, Seven more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: PurpleMan

That’s what I was thinking. Rhode island?
Of course, it WAS a 3 - 2 decision, so you could say that Rhode Island’s feet are in the swirling toilet water, fingernails clinging to the rim of the bowl, while the liberal Democrats continue to push the flush handle furiously.


35 posted on 12/07/2007 9:46:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: PurpleMan
This decision seems to further isolate Massachusetts as the redefining marriage state.

Not to worry. Soon, Faggifornia,led by it's amoral and disgusting sellout Governator, will lead the way far past this abomination.

36 posted on 12/07/2007 10:00:45 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: PurpleMan

Will go to SCOTUS on a “full faith and credit” argument.


37 posted on 12/07/2007 10:21:33 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: squaddawg1983

In Florida we had “Will the last American leaving Miami please bring the flag?”


38 posted on 12/07/2007 10:22:49 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: PurpleMan

HA...a good decision by 3 judges [judges staying within their job description for a change]...it’s the law folks...it’s not our duty to rewrite laws...any other ruling would’ve been just that...


39 posted on 12/07/2007 10:40:35 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: squaddawg1983
"He pleaded guilty (chose not to have a trial) and received a 1 year suspended jail sentence and 10 days community service."

People with common sense are few and far between in Massachusetts.

40 posted on 12/08/2007 12:19:14 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: PurpleMan; wagglebee; All

A very similar event happened in Texas 4 years ago when two men who had a Vermont civil union tried to get divorced. The judge granted their divorce, but Attorney General Abbott reminded the judge that he couldn’t dissolve what didn’t exist in Texas. The judge set up a second trial to dissolve ?whatever? but the suit was withdrawn.


41 posted on 12/08/2007 12:23:35 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: MindBender26
I thought after Massachusetts passed the gay-marriage law the other states had to acknowledge it legally unless they had voted not to earlier.

My state, Oklahoma, was one of those that voted on this before Massachusetts passed their law just for that reason, so that gay persons who were married in Massachusetts couldn’t come here and demand all the privileges of a married couple.

42 posted on 12/08/2007 3:24:37 AM PST by bluescape
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To: bluescape

They will seek a writ of mandamus under Art 4, Sect 1 of COTUS:

“Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.”

Classic SCOTUS case.


43 posted on 12/08/2007 4:41:15 AM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: misterrob
Gee, every poll showed the citizens and the legislature was against it, and Mitt too! Must of been because of all that networking Mitt was always doing? You know, like picking a fellow stiff, never one an election with no popular or political support like Muffy Healey.

Good old Mitt, he really was a Lyndon Johnson type of guy. He could really find ways to get the legislation going. Not. Not to mention no problem burning every Republican in the State since he was abandondeding it to run for President.

Mitt being Governor was just a big ticket punch for Mitt. Mitt got the ride and Republicans and supporting independents got the bill. Well, what do you expect out of a Harvard, elitist stiff?

45 posted on 12/08/2007 5:02:25 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: PurpleMan

Why don’t they just go to Mass? It is only an hour away.


46 posted on 12/08/2007 5:04:01 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: wildbill

The “full faith and credit clause” has been ignored by the anti-self defense states for years.


47 posted on 12/08/2007 6:18:23 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: squaddawg1983
Massachusetts citizens are voting with their feet.

Moving out of MA next spring.

48 posted on 12/08/2007 6:40:47 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: PurpleMan
Does “same-sex marriage” refer to two male dogs, two male cats, etc.?

Can’t understand how two same sex people can marry. Purely nuts.

49 posted on 12/08/2007 8:01:41 AM PST by GOPologist (Never compromise with yourself. You're only one person.)
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To: MindBender26

And with Anthony Kennedy plus four left-wing loonies on the court, I don’t trust the Supremes.

But the libertarian types here will fight to the death to keep a federal marriage amendment out of the Constitution, on state’s rights grounds, even if the result is a federal judicial fiat forcing same-sex “marriage” on every state.

In other words, they’d prefer an actual, massive increase in federal power to a federal constitutional amendment which merely authorizes the states to do what they want to do in the first place.


50 posted on 12/08/2007 8:10:47 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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