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Omaha Mall Shooter Rifle Pictures Show Ordinary SKS
Pictures from KPTM Fox 42: Omaha ^ | 8 December, 2007 | Marktwain

Posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:18 AM PST by marktwain

It appears that we have positive identification of the rifle used in the Omaha Mall shooting. The pictures from Fox 42: Omaha show an ordinary SKS rifle with a fixed 10 round magazine. The same rifle that millions of people in the United States own for hunting and plinking. It is an acceptable deer rifle for most of the country.

There have been many reports of "assault rifle" used in the MSM, and reports of 30 round magazines. It appears that all of these reports are false, probably intended to stir up anti-gun sentiment before the election.


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I welcome any other expert information on the identification of the rifle. On first examination I would guess that it is one of the millions of Chinese imports, but it is possible that it is from another east block country. I am pretty sure that it is not Russian.
1 posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:21 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
So it wasnt a AK 47, just a lowly 99 dollar SKS


2 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:11 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain

Wonder if he had seen the Tancrendo ad?


3 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:25 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: marktwain
Looks like a Jugoslavian SKS.

Was the shooter white or black?

4 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:41 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: marktwain

Looks like a chinese SKS


5 posted on 12/08/2007 7:03:18 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain

Looks like a 59/66.


6 posted on 12/08/2007 7:03:42 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mylife

To the MSM, all rifles are assault rifles.


7 posted on 12/08/2007 7:04:00 AM PST by fhayek
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To: marktwain

Are you implying that the MSM would DARE lie or manipulate the masses? [/s]


8 posted on 12/08/2007 7:04:04 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Chinese.
Note the spike bayonet.
The Yugo has a blade bayonet and a nato grenade launcher at the end of the muzzle


9 posted on 12/08/2007 7:04:49 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tet68

thats what it is


10 posted on 12/08/2007 7:05:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"So it wasnt a AK 47, just a lowly 99 dollar SKS"

Irrelevant.

11 posted on 12/08/2007 7:05:34 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Lion Den Dan

The one in my pic is Yugo


12 posted on 12/08/2007 7:06:00 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain
The photos in the link are a little small for my eyes, but it looks like it might be a Yugoslavian.
13 posted on 12/08/2007 7:06:04 AM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: verity

The entire post is about identification of said firearm.


14 posted on 12/08/2007 7:06:50 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

You’re right, missed the bayo.


15 posted on 12/08/2007 7:07:20 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain
"probably intended to stir up anti-gun sentiment"

Ya think. LOL!

16 posted on 12/08/2007 7:08:43 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: mylife

All I heard for days on the radio and TV here was “deadly, AK-47, assault-weapon/rifle”. I heard a psychologist on the Gunny Bob show say something that made my mouth fall open. On the subject of self-defense he said that “some people just want to remain sheep”. I didn’t here them mention the fact that he was on mind-altering drugs.


17 posted on 12/08/2007 7:09:05 AM PST by dljordan
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To: tet68

The original russian had the spike bayonet to but has the distinctive “red” finish on the wood


18 posted on 12/08/2007 7:09:32 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dljordan

Yeah, Im sure the mood altering drugs dont enter into his mindset


19 posted on 12/08/2007 7:11:09 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: verity

Like I’d care what the source of 7.62x39 coming my way was.


20 posted on 12/08/2007 7:11:39 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dljordan
I didn’t here them mention the fact that he was on mind-altering drugs.

He was?

21 posted on 12/08/2007 7:12:15 AM PST by the808bass
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To: marktwain

The second this story broke I knew it was eventually going to be morphed into an anti-gun crusade. When you have Leninists running the media, what else can you expect?


22 posted on 12/08/2007 7:13:15 AM PST by samtheman
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To: mylife

My immediate reaction was “why does NBC, MSNBC, ABC, etc. ALWAYS make sure the first pictures they get out of a shooting tragedy are pictures of HYSTERICAL WOMEN!

Out of the hundreds of people at the mall, surely there were a vast majority of women that can handle a tragic event like this without breaking down into hysteria.

Wait a minute; could it be they want to push an agenda?


23 posted on 12/08/2007 7:14:12 AM PST by HD1200
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To: the808bass

He was on prozac or some such other anti depressant


24 posted on 12/08/2007 7:14:32 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: HD1200

Yes


25 posted on 12/08/2007 7:15:05 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
He was on prozac or some such other anti depressant

I haven't seen a report of that. Everyone has assumed he was on an antidepressant because he's reported as being depressed. I haven't seen any report which says he was on an antidepressant.

26 posted on 12/08/2007 7:17:29 AM PST by the808bass
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To: marktwain

Yup, that looks like a Yugo SKS alright.. Can tell by the grenade launcher at the end of the muzzle.

Here is the strange part however.. the pic of him IN the mall aiming the rifle, looks like an AK. I can see the 30 round mags taped together as well. The front of the rifle in that picture also looks to have a slant break muzzle device (which is common on AK47’s) and not the huge Yugo grenade launcher.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 7:17:42 AM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: HD1200

It is also somewhat sexist, where are the hysterical men??


28 posted on 12/08/2007 7:18:04 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: the808bass

I heard that in an initial report. I wish I could give you specifics


29 posted on 12/08/2007 7:19:03 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: HD1200
...why does NBC, MSNBC, ABC, etc. ALWAYS make sure the first pictures they get out of a shooting tragedy are pictures of HYSTERICAL WOMEN!...

Because there's no other kind.

(ducking for cover)

30 posted on 12/08/2007 7:19:08 AM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: mylife
I heard that in an initial report. I wish I could give you specifics

So do I.

31 posted on 12/08/2007 7:20:05 AM PST by the808bass
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To: verity
“Irrelevant.”

Not really, as a major push by the anti-freedom forces has been to demonize and make hysterical claims about “assault weapons”.

When they deliberately misidentify common rifles as “assault rifles” in an attempt to promote their agenda, it is relevant.

32 posted on 12/08/2007 7:20:24 AM PST by marktwain
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To: eXe
“Here is the strange part however.. the pic of him IN the mall aiming the rifle, looks like an AK. I can see the 30 round mags taped together as well. The front of the rifle in that picture also looks to have a slant break muzzle device (which is common on AK47’s) and not the huge Yugo grenade launcher.”

That is very interesting. I would very much like to see those photos. Do you know where they are available?

33 posted on 12/08/2007 7:22:48 AM PST by marktwain
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To: mylife
"The one in my pic is Yugo"

I agree. As another poster wrote, a Chinese SKS has a spike bayonet, while this version has a blade. Also, the Chinese SKS has a noticeably shorter stock, and the wood and wood finish usually isn't of the same quality.

34 posted on 12/08/2007 7:23:19 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: marktwain

Looks like a Yugoslav SKS, because of the grenade launcher/ muzzle brake. The bayonet has been replaced with some kind of aftermarket bipod or monopod, though, and the stock has some kind of extender/recoil pad on it, so it’s possible the muzzle brake is an aftermarket piece as well.


35 posted on 12/08/2007 7:23:45 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: eXe

Where are yo seeing this?
There is no grenade launcher on the rifle in the pic at the originating website.

There are 30 rd bannana clips made for the SKS but the one in the pics has the original 10 rd magazine.

to change over between the two different configurations requires completely disassembling and reassembling the rifle.

Why would the authority’s disassemble the rifle and reassemble it into the less deadly 10 round version for the photos? and where did they get the 10 round original fixed magazine?


36 posted on 12/08/2007 7:25:35 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain; eXe

Somebody pulled a “switcheroo”?

(The OPD just added an AK into their collection?)


37 posted on 12/08/2007 7:25:46 AM PST by 2111USMC
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To: the808bass

He had been on one in the past but not at the time of the shooting.

Everybody has an issue. The press wants an assault weappon for their agenda.

Freepers want prozac for their agendas.

All of it turns me off. He murdered 9 people, doesn’t matter what he did it with or what medicine he was on. If you read his history, this was coming sooner or later.


38 posted on 12/08/2007 7:26:42 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Where are you people seeing these pictures?


39 posted on 12/08/2007 7:27:01 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain
Good morning.

I saw a clip on FNC, of the shooter aiming what was clearly a Kalashnikov. The length of the weapon and the shape of the front sight post weren’t from an SKS. I thought I could see an AK magazine, but that doesn’t prove anything.

I’ll have to see if I can find the clip gain, just to prove to myself that I’m not losing it.

Michael Frazier

40 posted on 12/08/2007 7:27:22 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
I'm talking about the pictures posted in the original Omaha KPTM Fox 42 news story --

-- not the picture mylife put up in post #2.
41 posted on 12/08/2007 7:28:21 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: marktwain

I don’t see what you see in this picture of him in the mall.

http://apnews.myway.com/image/20071207/Mall_Shooting.sff_NY121_20071207141633.html?date=20071207&docid=D8TCTLCO0

I see an arm, a roll of sweatshirt, and probably the shirt he used to hide the gun in hanging from his right hand.

Clearly an SKS


42 posted on 12/08/2007 7:29:37 AM PST by HD1200
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To: mylife

Everyone else seems to be looking at your rifle. Nice buck, by the way.


43 posted on 12/08/2007 7:30:20 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: samtheman

It needs to be turned into an anti-psychotic drugs campaign.


44 posted on 12/08/2007 7:31:07 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: the808bass
I forget the name of the drug, but there is a commercial for one anti depressant that states

"You may have experience depression,If while taking (brand here) you have thoughts of suicide, tell your doctor"

45 posted on 12/08/2007 7:31:22 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: the808bass

Local news talked to a buddy of his; he said that he was on meds. I saw that posted on another thread, so I didn’t hear it first hand.


46 posted on 12/08/2007 7:31:24 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: brazzaville

47 posted on 12/08/2007 7:31:39 AM PST by Howie
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To: Nailbiter
"It is also somewhat sexist, where are the hysterical men??"

San Francisco???

48 posted on 12/08/2007 7:33:02 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: mylife
On one TV stations the other night, and I apologize that I don’t know which one it was, they actually showed a picture of side-folding stock AK 47 variant and said this was the murder weapon.
49 posted on 12/08/2007 7:33:24 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: marktwain
MSM is always going to describe any firearm used in an improper manner as an "assault" rifle. The pro-firearm community is then forced on the defensive frantically struggling to point out the truth. What the MSM will not do is ever blame the piece of trash who committed the murders with firearms, or point out that one honest armed shooter in close proximity to the murderer bastard could have ended his murderous career quickly and decisively. The MSM will always humanize the piece of trash by giving its name and the sad details of its horrible life.

Kudos to John Gibson who, on his Fox show yesterday, refused to name the piece of garbage murderer. Apparently Gibson also refused to name the garbage on Thursday as well. I watched enough of limp wrist Shepherd Smith at 7:00 PM to see that he was not only going to name the murderer, but give the "sad" details of his "horrible" life. As an aside, ever since Smith stood outside the stadium in N.O. spreading the left wing lies about the circumstances there I have had no respect for him.

50 posted on 12/08/2007 7:33:39 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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