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Huckabee Wanted to Isolate AIDS Patients (in 1992)
Guardian Unlimited ^ | December 8, 2007 | ANDREW DeMILLO

Posted on 12/08/2007 7:34:01 AM PST by dano1

Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could ``pose a dangerous public health risk.''

As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.

``If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague,'' Huckabee wrote.

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When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

``In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified,'' Huckabee wrote. ``An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research.''

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Since becoming a presidential candidate this year, Huckabee has supported increased federal funding for AIDS research through the National Institutes of Health.

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``What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business,'' Huckabee said. ``If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse.''

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: 1992; aids; bloodtrail; eradicatevector; goodidea; huckabee; huckster; publichealth
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Those interested should llok at the entire article. I had to cut some interesting statements because of the 300 word limit. Also, IMHO, our knowledge of HIV/AIDS has changed a lot since 1992.

1 posted on 12/08/2007 7:34:02 AM PST by dano1
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To: dano1

Oh well, even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then.


2 posted on 12/08/2007 7:35:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: dano1

Huckabee must know something about epidemiological principles to make wild public health statements. This of course, violates the laws of political correctness, not to mention the marketing of deviance by the gayly diseased community.


3 posted on 12/08/2007 7:37:42 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: dano1

Well the quarantine was not necessary, though he may not have known that then. The idea of having Hollywood celebrities fund the cure is fantastic. I wish he still promoted that idea. Hollywood is always talking about taxing me more. They are zillionaires. They push the idea that homosexuality is healthy and good. Let them fund the cure for AIDS. Great idea! There’s a lot of justice in that.


4 posted on 12/08/2007 7:38:56 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know why this Huckabee supporter posted this.

If you notice, Huckabee now supports federal funding for AID’s research.

This is just another example of a Huckabee Flip-Flop.


5 posted on 12/08/2007 7:39:12 AM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: dano1
When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

This is still true. Good for him for having the courage to say it.

6 posted on 12/08/2007 7:40:00 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: All

``My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals,’’ Huckabee said in a statement posted on his campaign Web site last month.


7 posted on 12/08/2007 7:41:48 AM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t even think the pig found an acorn this time. I agree that too much public money goes into research funding but the idea of isolating people because they have aids is just plain insane.


8 posted on 12/08/2007 7:43:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: cripplecreek

Only if it were more communicable, like typhoid or other diseases. However, we must not let the god of political correctness make these decisions for us, rather public welfare.


9 posted on 12/08/2007 7:45:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: RatsDawg

He has become the worst of flip floppers, but he says he isn’t and people believe him. Really really slick.


10 posted on 12/08/2007 7:45:17 AM PST by libbylu
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To: dano1

I’m surprised this is coming out now, since the dems are going to hit him with it again if he gets the nomination.


11 posted on 12/08/2007 7:51:42 AM PST by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed on the gods of political correctness, but we knew back in ‘92 AIDS was not communicatable...unless you liked certain types of activities. The gay population did a great job of educating their own and working hard to limit risk.


12 posted on 12/08/2007 7:53:04 AM PST by HotTubDave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sonme one needs to address the causes of AIDS, most can be avoided by a change in life style...but not a peep out any politician on that aspect..


13 posted on 12/08/2007 7:53:46 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh well, even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then.

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What I could do with that statement. I won't, though I am sorely tempted. :)

14 posted on 12/08/2007 7:53:58 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh well, even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then.

Those were, so to speak, my thoughts - broken clock and all.

I felt the same way - all other deadly, communicable diseases throughout the ages, were isolated, and millions of others were protected.

Additionally, like TB, the sufferers were not complicit in their illness, where with, in the beginning, most of the AIDS patients not only contributed to their illness but continued in the life style known to spread it - and had little compunction about spreading it to others.

But they were able to turn it into a "PC" issue and they DID get far more funding than other deadly diseases.

Then it got loose in the drug user domain and spread like wildfire. And they were allowed to make money selling their contaminated blood. How many tens of thousands have died due to "PC"

15 posted on 12/08/2007 7:57:05 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: dano1
"`My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals,’’ Huckabee said in a statement posted on his campaign Web site last month."

I liked the "let Hollywood celebrities fund aids research from their own pockets" idea much better.
Frankly, I'm sick to death of cure aids funding drives and the feds giving billions away, only to be spent by the UN on fancy hotels, fine cuisine and useless conferences, then send their minions out to promte abortion and promote gay sex.

Want a cure for aids? keep your butt covered and pants zipped.
As for the aids epidemic in Africa, how many times can the total population die from aids? How many times has it been now, 2- 3 times ? If aids is such an epidemic in Africa, you'd think they would have learned by now how NOT to catch it.

Perhaps more evolution needs to take place until they do. The same applies for aids in America, and everywhere else. There is a cure available to stop the spread of aids, and it's completely free. The problem is those who spread it don't want to take it. Too bad.

16 posted on 12/08/2007 8:01:40 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: dano1
Put them on the pancake diet too.

(That's the only thing you can slide under the door.)

17 posted on 12/08/2007 8:06:43 AM PST by Slump Tester (-What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The quarantine would have contained the disease that has now infected millions in this country. Don’t buy the PC gay agenda statement that quarantine is ineffective.

Problem is hollywood has engaged the liberals to force the taxpayers to sink billions into this useless moneypit easily resolved with eliminating deviant behavor.


18 posted on 12/08/2007 8:10:50 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: dano1

They isolated TB And smallpox victims. What kind of idiot feels they have to suck a queer? Fund AIDS research if it’ll get rid of all or 99% of them. Got a kid to donate? Comeon now give
generously.


19 posted on 12/08/2007 8:11:42 AM PST by Waco
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Good for him for having the courage to say it.

Anybody can say anything, it takes REAL courage to act upon it.

20 posted on 12/08/2007 8:13:33 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: dano1
Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could ``pose a dangerous public health risk.''

I'm not a supporter of Huckabee, but if the World had listened to him then, we would only be reading about AIDs in history books!

21 posted on 12/08/2007 8:14:03 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Real men don't vote Democrat.)
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To: dano1

aids is the first disease with civil rights attached to it.


22 posted on 12/08/2007 8:16:05 AM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: maine-iac7

Your statements resonant of the science of disease containment. I can’t believe how some people have bought the notion that quarantine of a lethal infectious disease that has killed and infected millions in this country is not a sound principle. More than 85% of AIDS has been in the homosexual group.


23 posted on 12/08/2007 8:17:42 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: HotTubDave
------------------------------------------------------ I take it you are being sarcastic?
24 posted on 12/08/2007 8:25:52 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Quarantines are for communicable diseases. AIDS can be controlled without a quarantine simply through behavior modification (morality). Secondary transmission (blood products) cannot be completely controlled through a quarantine either, since the problem is usually with people who do not know they are infected yet. If you know you have AIDS you can know not to donate blood. Now there is a problem when homosexuals or IV drug users refuse to admit they are high risk and should never donate blood. But again, a quarantine doesn't solve that problem. Moral values solve that problem. Have the moral sense to not go into a plasma or blood donation facility and lie about your risky behaviors. Do not check the organ donation box on your driver's license if you are high risk. Etc. Apparently there isn't much love for others coming from that community.

Secondary cases are completely tied to primary -- behavior related -- transmissions. The innocent are saved if the guilty change their behaviors. The power is all in their hands.

Yes, AIDS is as controllable today as it was when there were fewer cases. The power is in the hands of people who live risky lifestyles. Unfortunately it is the rest of us who end up paying the price.

25 posted on 12/08/2007 8:26:03 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Flu can kill too—and is far more communicable than AIDS. If we adopted his philosophy, why wouldn’t we have to quarantine you everytime you had the flu until a doctor certifies that you are no longer contagious?


26 posted on 12/08/2007 8:26:58 AM PST by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve found that it’s far easier and cheaper to refrain from sticking my thingymabob in them.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 8:27:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: unixfox
Anybody can say anything, it takes REAL courage to act upon it.

You know, you're right. Good point.

28 posted on 12/08/2007 8:28:57 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: dano1

Drudge has this as his Big Red Headline. I guess it’s supposed to shock everybody by how horrible that would have been.

It doesn’t work on me. The world lost so many wonderful people who would have been alive today had we treated AIDS like any other communicable epidemic. I’d like to be listening to Freddy Mercury’s new songs, etc. I agree with the Huckster on this one.


29 posted on 12/08/2007 8:38:10 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: cripplecreek
but the idea of isolating people because they have aids is just plain insane.

Now. But imagine if it had occurred at the start before we knew too much about the way HIV works. It would have saved so many lives.

30 posted on 12/08/2007 8:40:04 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
imagine if it had occurred at the start before we knew too much about the way HIV works. It would have saved so many lives.

Yeah I had the same thought. Unfortunately I'm not sure that would have worked either. There may have been thousands of people infected years before we ever saw the first cases.
31 posted on 12/08/2007 8:44:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Well the quarantine was not necessary...

Tell that to the millions who were infected after we knew we had a communicable disease on our hands, many of which have died.

32 posted on 12/08/2007 8:47:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Yaelle

Most Freepers would agree with with Huck’s views here, especially circa ‘92. What this story indicates is that his grace period with the MSM is over. I think they are starting to feel guilty for giving a non-pc social conservativs such good reviews charm wise. This is supposed to scare Dems into action and soften him up for the general.


33 posted on 12/08/2007 8:48:39 AM PST by Callahan
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To: dano1

Earlier this week El Rushbo stated that the lamestream media was trying to build Huckabee up only to tear him down because they loathe his religious principles. Once the polling data showed they had succeeded in boosting his ratings the attacks would begin.

Rush is right again.


34 posted on 12/08/2007 8:50:29 AM PST by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah. I don’t know if I am right or not, but I thought quarantines were used for other types of diseases. We never had quarantines for other sexually transmitted diseases, at least not that I know about.


35 posted on 12/08/2007 9:00:30 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: 43north

I just thought of the perfect triangulation for Huck: “I really only wanted to quarrantine illegals with AIDS” Adam & Steve have nothing to worry about and the immigration purists would approve. Ha.


36 posted on 12/08/2007 9:03:25 AM PST by Callahan
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To: dano1

The trashing has started. Leftists who don’t have a live have dug into records and found something to hang Huckabee on. They will never tell you that aids patients in Cuba are locked away!


37 posted on 12/08/2007 9:04:47 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: 43north

Uh, Rush got that idea from me and many other freepers. We’ve been saying that for weeks. I’ve been saying that about Rudy since he announced. The official word for MSM destruction is called ‘Deaned’.


38 posted on 12/08/2007 9:08:21 AM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: DoughtyOne

If he said to quarantine in 1984, I could understand since we really didn’t know much about AIDS then. But 1992? Come on.


39 posted on 12/08/2007 9:10:19 AM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: DoughtyOne
You may be right. A quarantine may have saved a lot of people. Here is some information on the history of the practice of quarantines.

I guess I was confusing airborne diseases with communicable diseases. Communicable disease includes anything contageous by a variety of means.

40 posted on 12/08/2007 9:13:07 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: rintense

As of mid-1991, 38% of Americans still thought that you could get AIDS from kissing, and 29% were worried that they would get AIDS during their lifetimes. 35% said they would change their behavior by “taking more care to avoid homosexual people or those you think are homosexual or places where homosexuals meet.” 43%, FOURTY-THREE PERCENT, thought in 1989 that civil liberties should be suspended in the war on AIDS.

Of course, 89% of people thought that kids with AIDS should be allowed to attend school with other kids, and only 10% supported a quarantine, so huh, maybe Huckabee was legitimately extreme about all this.

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0033-362X(199321)57%3A1%3C92%3APTAU%3E2.0.CO%3B2-I


41 posted on 12/08/2007 9:14:18 AM PST by seraphMTH
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To: dano1

Well, you FINALLY found an area where I agree with Huckabee. Too little/too late, but...


42 posted on 12/08/2007 9:16:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I’m not entirely comfortable with the idea of a quaranteen. On the other hand, I am not entirely comfortable with the public being exposed to the momentary whims of those who are infected. Then there’s the problem with transmission. From what I’ve read, I get the impression that in around five percent of the cases, those who contracted the disease have no idea how they got it. They didn’t have unsafe sex. They weren’t in a group known to have an increased risk. They were just normal people who came down with the disease.

In the early days this disease was so politicised that an AIDS diagnosis was not allowed to be placed in medical charts. Hospital and medical field personel were exposed to these people unawares. Surgeons, nurses, hematologists would be working in their fields blindly.

Our government was so lax that it didn’t even have the gutts to close bath houses with a heavily weighted homosexual clientelle where sexual activity was taking place. Multiple partners was a normal aspect of this activity.


43 posted on 12/08/2007 9:17:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: dano1

And, there are members here that think the MSM is giving Huckabee a free pass? The media is digging up everything it can about him.


44 posted on 12/08/2007 9:19:35 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: rintense

Thanks for your response. You may to look at this post of mine.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936624/posts?page=43#43


45 posted on 12/08/2007 9:20:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I understand where you’re coming from. I appreciate the link and additional comments.


46 posted on 12/08/2007 9:20:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: seraphMTH

Yes, I believe he was very extreme about it. To put a public face to it, Magic Johnson announced he had HIV in 1991. It once again raised awareness of the disease. So for Huck to say this a year later was just stupid and ill-informed.


47 posted on 12/08/2007 9:24:24 AM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease."

This is still true. Good for him for having the courage to say it.

Is there any disease that Huckabee doesn't believe the government should be in the business of curing?

48 posted on 12/08/2007 9:31:22 AM PST by Perchant
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To: dano1
Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could ``pose a dangerous public health risk.''
Someone really wants him to get elected.
49 posted on 12/08/2007 9:34:58 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with Huckabee on all three statements...it’s the elephant in the room. A lot of folks are thinking the same thing but no one has been willing to say so.

I may have to pick him as my frontrunner rather than Hunter!


50 posted on 12/08/2007 10:04:58 AM PST by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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