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All In (Fred Thompson moves to Iowa)
Weekly Standard ^ | 12/7/07 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 12/08/2007 4:06:27 PM PST by cotton1706

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1 posted on 12/08/2007 4:06:28 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Excellent!


2 posted on 12/08/2007 4:07:28 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cotton1706
Thompson has said publicly that he needs to finish in the top three in Iowa. Campaign officials say that a strong third place finish--presumably behind new frontrunner Mike Huckabee and former frontrunner Mitt Romney--would likely give them enough momentum to survive New Hampshire and compete in South Carolina and beyond.

He is still up there in the polls and the MSM still skips his name when reporting.

Oh, I forgot, the MSM is fair and balanced....

3 posted on 12/08/2007 4:12:44 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cotton1706
It's about gaddamn time.

Fred, you've got my vote, but show a pulse, fer crying out loud.


4 posted on 12/08/2007 4:14:02 PM PST by Viking2002 (Waterboarding the Left every chance I get.)
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To: cotton1706

Must be part of Thompson’s late strategy. Late to start his run, late into Iowa. Hop it works. Of all the top tier candidates he’s the only one I support.


5 posted on 12/08/2007 4:16:22 PM PST by saganite
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To: trisham
Mega Dittos! Huckabee is not my choice, as much as the MSM wants it to be so.

Go Fred Go!!!

6 posted on 12/08/2007 4:16:38 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Ron Paul is nutcase, plain & simple.)
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To: Viking2002
Fred has been campaigning hard, imho.

Visit his site to see:

http://www.imwithfred.com/

7 posted on 12/08/2007 4:16:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Agreed.

Huckabee is unacceptable for we conservatives.

8 posted on 12/08/2007 4:18:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Yes, the only true conservative among the four top tier is Fred Thompson! GO FRED! :)


9 posted on 12/08/2007 4:19:59 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: cotton1706
Looks like he is preping for Hucks fall in a couple of weeks.

They must be happy with SC right now and decided to take him out in Iowa instead.

He is making his move faster than I thought though. Could be a very good sign. Get this crap over with.

10 posted on 12/08/2007 4:20:01 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: cotton1706
He needs to spend a some time in Iowa, but the key state for Fred is South Carolina. It's do or die there.

Right now, Fred should spend most of his time camping in South Carolina.

11 posted on 12/08/2007 4:20:53 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: ejonesie22

I sure hope you’re right. I tend to be somewhat pessimistic at times. I went to sleep during the last 20 minutes or so of the Patriots vs. the Ravens. Call be a gutless coward, if you will.


12 posted on 12/08/2007 4:22:17 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cotton1706

It’s terrible that just a couple of states get to chose who will be on the ballot for the leader of the free world.


13 posted on 12/08/2007 4:23:10 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
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To: cotton1706
I've been rooting for Fred even before he declared, I just hope this move isn't too little too late.

It certainly hasn't worked for Chris Dodd.

(I know, I know Fred is not Chris Dodd.)

14 posted on 12/08/2007 4:24:53 PM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: cotton1706
Smart move, IMHO - The MSM will of course hang Thompson if he doesn’t caucus well, but it’s where the political reporters are camping out and you can only write so many lines of copy about Romney and Huckster before your eyes begin to bleed.
15 posted on 12/08/2007 4:25:57 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: trisham
I don't need schooled in the Zen of Fred. I was beating his war drums in 1999. But in the lemming-like primary process, you have to preen and show your plumage in a more cavalier manner, lest ye be left lurking in the shadows.


16 posted on 12/08/2007 4:29:20 PM PST by Viking2002 (Waterboarding the Left every chance I get.)
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To: Viking2002

Amen.


17 posted on 12/08/2007 4:30:33 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: cotton1706; jellybean; Politicalmom; 2ndDivisionVet

FRed BUMP and ping.


18 posted on 12/08/2007 4:34:36 PM PST by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: trisham
Rudy and Mitt had fallen against Huck faster than I thought. I was of the idea it would be another 2 weeks before we would see what we have as of now.

I think they see it too. Strike while the iron is hot and like all good tacticians, be prepared to change battlefields to your advantage. I thought they would fall back to SC. I think they see a shot of taking it even sooner.

19 posted on 12/08/2007 4:34:46 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: trisham

“I went to sleep during the last 20 minutes or so of the Patriots vs. the Ravens.”

You missed some good football! One of the advantages of being stuck on the left coast. It wasn’t so late over here.

About this constant thing we hear about Fred being late or too late...

I hope that’s not the case. Is it really being late if everyone else is jumping out way early? There’s only so much cash to spend on campaigns and the quicker you start spending it, the harder it gets to keep any around for a strong finish.


20 posted on 12/08/2007 4:35:01 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: cotton1706

Too little, too late.


21 posted on 12/08/2007 4:38:15 PM PST by Palladin (What are your underpants--mystical or lace?)
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To: ejonesie22; trisham

On other thought occurred to me. They maybe seeing the possibility of a Huck implosion on the near horizon, much sooner than they had hoped, so maybe it has forced a move in a way. No need to go backwards just because Huck could not sustain.


22 posted on 12/08/2007 4:38:18 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: cotton1706

Awesome, this is how I thought he should play it.

Huckabee’s loaded with baggage and flying high. Let’s see if Fred can shave 10 points off him the next month.


23 posted on 12/08/2007 4:38:22 PM PST by Free Vulcan (This Iowan ain't dancin' the Hucky Pokey January 3rd.)
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To: cotton1706

“Just when the interest is there the greatest, is when we’ll be here the most.”

Basic psychology 101. 3 parts 1.. gets lot of attention 2. gets muddled.3 last is retained longest and being closest to gate will be remembered better when the hands go up/// gotta love that guy.


24 posted on 12/08/2007 4:40:35 PM PST by primatreat (Alzheimer's whispers are getting louder. I will not let the door open till this is over .)
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To: cotton1706
That’s a big FRED THOMPSON - NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE - SECURE THE BORDERS - LAW AND ORDER - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATS - PING!

The folks in Iowa and just now paying attention and they are tired of Romney and Juliani, don’t want McCain, so they resort to Huckabee. When FRED gets their attention, there will be no contest. FRED will sweep Iowa, screw New Hampshire, sweep Michigan then Wyoming, then South Carolina, and Florida. Optimism is the name of the game now. The DB MSM will NOT choose our President.

WE THE PEOPLE asked him to step up and now WE THE PEOPLE will elect him as our President!

25 posted on 12/08/2007 4:43:34 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER FredHEAD! The Hunt for a FRED November is on! Don't be fooled!)
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To: trisham

Now is the time for all Fredheads to send in fresh contributions! Spending this month in Iowa could come close to depleting his coffers!


26 posted on 12/08/2007 4:43:36 PM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Bobbisox
WE THE PEOPLE will elect him as our President!

Huck can't beat Obama. That is where it's heading unless Fred can kick some butt.

27 posted on 12/08/2007 4:46:41 PM PST by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: Free Vulcan
Let’s see if Fred can shave 10 points off him the next month.
He's got 26 days to do it.
28 posted on 12/08/2007 4:46:42 PM PST by eastsider (Mitt Romney = Best in Formal Wear; Mike Huckabee = Mr. Congeniality; Fred Thompson = Mr. President)
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To: HAL9000

I think he’s concluded he must make a showing in Iowa to do well in SC. With all the buzz going to Huckabee, folks are flocking to the Huckster without thinking.

I’m guessing he also thinks he can pull off a decent showing, claim to be the comeback kid, and get a closer look in SC before leading into Florida.

If he’s in the top 3 leaving Florida, then I think he has a real shot at being the anti-Rudy, which is where most of the votes are.


29 posted on 12/08/2007 4:51:50 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: ejonesie22

If Fred doesn’t break Hucks momentum early, he’ll never win SC. He’s showing a weak second there now


30 posted on 12/08/2007 4:51:59 PM PST by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: trisham; HAL9000; ejonesie22
FRed's doin' fine in SC. A big showing in Ia would give him a bump in NH, WY, Fl, and SC. He's on target, and gettin' deadly serious now. FRed is the trusit of the true, he has never wavered, never faltered, never given in. He is the Conservative choice for America!
Give 'em hell, FRed!
Security.Unity. Prosperity. FRed Thompson in '08

31 posted on 12/08/2007 4:56:52 PM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson is head and shoulders above the rest. Vote for America, vote for FRed!)
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To: cotton1706

Study your lines, speak plain and simple, lay off the cigars for a week, get your nose off your notes and look to the crowd, crank it up a notch, and go Fred go, make a good showing, Fred. Am rooting for you to shine and to ooze conservatism. Otherwise, will vote for the Repub. nominee whoever it may be. You couldn’t possibly do any worse that Obama did today. Relax up there, and enjoy the show. Lot’s of us behind you.


32 posted on 12/08/2007 5:03:19 PM PST by constant
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To: papasmurf

Thompson seems to have been trending steadily downwards both in South Carolina and nationwide ever since he declared to run.

Back when he was at 28 or 29% in the Rasmussen polls, all the Fred supporters proclaimed that as the only poll worth taking note of. Well now he’s nudging single figures in the same poll.

If this is a tactical masterplan, it’s a very strange one. Suddenly shifting all resources to Iowa looks like a desperate last move.


33 posted on 12/08/2007 5:03:37 PM PST by UKTory
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To: papasmurf
And Fred does not have to win Iowa to accomplish his goal. If he takes any decent percentage from Huckabee, he demonstrates that Huckabee is not invincible. As with the taking down of Rudy in the last week or so, that’s all it takes to start a slide. People line up with the one they think is inevitable. If the one at the top begins to look a little vulnerable, they rethink and the door opens.
34 posted on 12/08/2007 5:04:58 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: cotton1706

While I am NOT a Fred Thompson fan, this is good news for the Republican Party. A robust Thompson campaign would make ALL of the candidates look better as Thompson (like him or not) is on the right side of virtually every issue.

If Thompson starts to act like he ACTUALLY CARES about winning, then he might still have a chance at the nomination. Personally, I’m still not convinced that he DOES, or CAN, care in the traditional sense of the word, but this ‘all-in’ effort in Iowa is a huge step in the right direction.

Having ANY candidate appear lackluster and sluggish is a major drain on the overall discourse, so I will be very happy to see Thompson get his butt in gear and start to act like he really wants to be President.


35 posted on 12/08/2007 5:07:34 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: Palladin

You seem like a skeptic. Who are you supporting if I may ask?


36 posted on 12/08/2007 5:10:57 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: cotton1706

Watch the MSM turn against Huck now.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071208/ap_on_el_pr/huckabee_aids

Huckabee wanted to isolate AIDS patients


37 posted on 12/08/2007 5:12:28 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Mr Rogers
I think he’s concluded he must make a showing in Iowa to do well in SC.

That is the key question. If Fred has some scientific evidence which strongly suggests it, then Iowa would be the place to be now. But I still have a hunch that he would do better in the long term if he invested his time in South Carolina right now.

For a couple of years, I've been telling my colleagues on FR Arkansas forum that Huckabee was going to run an Iowa strategy, and he would run strong there. So far, that prediction has been accurate.

38 posted on 12/08/2007 5:13:06 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

He will be more likely to gain strength in SC if he improves his position in Iowa. SC needs to believe he is viable. If they do, I think he’ll take the state.


39 posted on 12/08/2007 5:15:27 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: preacher
I doubt the media will turn on Huckabee because of that story. I think it will get a mention and then get buried. They will just add it to the arsenal they hope to use on him in the general election.
40 posted on 12/08/2007 5:18:04 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: Route66

Exactly right!!!


41 posted on 12/08/2007 5:19:09 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: ejonesie22

YES!

I just hope it doesn’t hurt him in SC.


42 posted on 12/08/2007 5:20:21 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: ejonesie22

I would think after the week Huck’s had, we’ll see his numbers drop like a rock...


43 posted on 12/08/2007 5:22:26 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: constant
You couldn’t possibly do any worse that Obama did today.

What did Obama do today?

44 posted on 12/08/2007 5:23:36 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: trisham

If the Steelers do end up beating the Patriots tomorrow, then I predict that Rush Limbaugh will talk some about it on his show on Monday. Rush likes to talk about the Steelers whenever they win their games.


45 posted on 12/08/2007 5:31:44 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: cotton1706

He must see something in Iowa that makes this worth while. Polls in a caucus state are useless.


46 posted on 12/08/2007 5:35:04 PM PST by stevem
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To: cotton1706

Fred Thompson is the closest thing to a true conservative out of all of the top tier GOP Presidential candidates, and if Fred and Duncan Hunter would just form a ticket and run together, then it would truly be a good thing for all of conservatism throughout the U.S.! I truly believe that most conservative voters throughout the U.S. would get excited about a Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter GOP Presidential ticket!


47 posted on 12/08/2007 5:36:26 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: trisham

Since I don’t buy polls in a caucus state, it’s ok to dream a bit. Can you imagine the panic in places like the Minneapolis Star and Tribune, the NYT, the WP and CBS if Thompson wins Iowa?


48 posted on 12/08/2007 5:37:27 PM PST by stevem
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To: ejonesie22
That’s a big FRED THOMPSON (true Conservative Federalist) - NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE (I’ll do whatever it takes to stop the bastards) - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE (arm everyone and the criminals will back off) - SECURE THE BORDERS (starve the bastards and they will go home) - LAW AND ORDER (enforcement first and foremost) - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM (the program can’t sustain itself) - DEFEAT THE DEMOCRAT (any fool they put up) - PING!

However, I’m not so sure this was not his plan all along. FRED did not get in too late...people who have been paying attention in Iowa have heard all that Rudy and Romney have had to say. All but FRED have been in since the beginning and look where all that money spent by these campaigns have gotten them. I am beginning to think that this was all part of the master plan. I don’t believe he expected Huckelberry to jump into the lead, I feel he thought he would be chasing Romney and Rudy.

In the alternative, if FRED has to whip ever damn one of them ...so be it! WE THE PEOPLE have had it with the DB MSM choice they have made for us.

49 posted on 12/08/2007 5:37:45 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER FredHEAD! The Hunt for a FRED November is on! Don't be fooled!)
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To: chesty_puller

That’s a big FRED THOMPSON (true Conservative Federalist) - NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE (I’ll do whatever it takes to stop the bastards) - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE (arm everyone and the criminals will back off) - SECURE THE BORDERS (starve the bastards and they will go home) - LAW AND ORDER (enforcement first and foremost) - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM (the program can’t sustain itself) - DEFEAT THE DEMOCRAT (any fool they put up) - PING!


50 posted on 12/08/2007 5:38:52 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER FredHEAD! The Hunt for a FRED November is on! Don't be fooled!)
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