Personally, I couldn't care less about what Huckabee wrote on a 1992 AIDS survey or whether his answers were politically correct.
Posted on 12/08/2007 7:56:45 PM PST by AFA-Michigan
ASHEVILLE, N.C. -- Mike Huckabee tonight stands by a 1992 survey he filled out in which he said AIDS patients should be quarantined.
“The one thing I feel like is important to note is that you stick by what you said,” said Huckabee. “I’m not going to go around changing my opinion on everything.”
At a press conference this evening, Huckabee said that there were “a lot of questions” about AIDS at the time.
Contesting those who say it was “common knowledge” in 1992 that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact, Huckabee said the nation was in “real panic” after the case of a patient contracted the disease from a dentist.
“If I were making those same comments today, I might make them a little differently,” he said. “But obviously I have to stand by what I said...medical protocol typically says that if you have a disease for which there is no cure and you are uncertain about the transmission of it, the first thing you do is quarantine or isolate the carriers.”
A reporter raised the subject of a widely released Surgeon General pamphlet in 1988 that stated AIDS could not be transmitted like a cold or flu, Huckabee insisted there was “still a great deal of uncertainty” and that “we know more now than in 1992”
Huckabee said there are “obvious changes” in our understanding of the transmission of AIDS when asked if he still saw homosexuality as a public health risk.
He stood by his belief that homosexuality is “sinful,” but qualified it and said “doesn’t mean that person is a horrible person” and people “have a right to live any way they want to.”
Huckabee also remained consistent about funding for AIDS, pointing out that the question asked about giving additional funding, not if he opposed funding. He said there were a number of diseases like diabetes, heart disease, and Alzheimer’s that “affect a lot of American families” for which research would be disadvantaged if AIDS were singled out.
He said he supports additional funding for AIDS, pointing out that in Arkansas, he had a record of using the governor’s emergency fund for that purpose.
“It’s flattering that people now are digging back everything I ever wrote and ever said and there must be something about my campaign that’s catching on,” Huckabee said.
Asked if he thinks homosexuality is sinful, he said: “Well, I believe it would be -- just like lying is sinful and stealing is sinful. There are a lot of things that are sinful. It doesn't mean that a person is a horrible person. It means that they engage in behavior that is outside the norms of those boundaries of our traditional view of what's right and what's wrong. So, I think that anybody who has, maybe a traditional worldview of sexuality would classify that as an unusual behavior that is not traditional and that would be outside those bounds.”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/08/505805.aspx
The libs are going to have a BALL with this one if he makes it to the nomination.....
Pretty good response from Huckabee. Although, don’t start throwing stones at me for supporting Huckabee, cause I’m undecided in the primaries right now.
I’ll go for Thompson if he can pick up steam.
Read Romans 1...
“Why did they wait?”
Because as Huckabee said in 1992, society for the first time treated the disease as a civil rights rather than public health issue.
I was a county commissioner at the time and said the exact same things, and proposed that because of their routine exposure to bloodied victims or criminals, our county ambulance personnel and sheriff’s deputies be routinely AIDS tested.
My fellow Republican commissioners enthusiastically agreed with my proposal until we went public, and as soon as they got blowback from the public employees and news media, they folded like tents.
Huckabee was right then and is right now.
They waited because according to Maxine Waters Aids was a disease started by Ronald Reagan in a secret underground CIA lab to kill off gays and minorities. They had to wait, because it hadn’t spread enough to the non-whites.
Stick to your guns!
Leviticus 18:22
Personally, I couldn't care less about what Huckabee wrote on a 1992 AIDS survey or whether his answers were politically correct.
And there’d be one HELL of a lot fewer cases of AIDS in this country this vry minute if we’d started quarantining them back in the late ‘80s or early ‘90s.
In fact, there’d be almost none; we’d have whipped the “epidemic” which all the Libs were (hopefully) predicting would have spread widely into the general population by now.
Mike Huckabee has nothing to aplogize for on this score.
In fact, those who refused to quarantine AIDS patients baack then owe the rest of the nation an abject apology.
And BTW: I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee UNLESS he were the last Republican standing between us and “President Hillary.”
And then only gritting my teeth.
Well, not on EVERYTHING...
Only those thigs that are genuinely politically expedient.
dano1, you know I’m no fan of Huckabee, but he’s dead right on this issue both politically and spiritually. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with putting someone who has an unknown fatal disease with an unknown mode of transmission in quarantine. Wouldn’t that be the wise thing to do if someone really wanted to protect society? Isn’t that the way the CDC used to treat such diseases?
From a biblical perspective, Huckabee is correct, too. Homosexuality is, without a doubt, sinful. It doesn’t mean homosexuals are worse than other sinners, like adulterers or fornicators. So long as a homosexual repents and turns from his sins, he’s as saved as any other Christian.
BTW, I admire the way Huckabee is standing by his earlier statements (in this case) rather than trying to parse the language in an attempt to make it mean something less politically polarizing.
Of course, it’s a scary thing reading that set of scriptures...to stay in the land those types had to be taken out literally...or everyone in the land or that country were in very deep dodo...so to say one sin is the same as another...is incorrect, IMHO.
Sorry - that was totally sarcastic. Go back and read what I said again. It was so off the wall I figured I didn’t even need the sarcasm tag.
BTW, I admire the way Huckabee is standing by his earlier statements (in this case) rather than trying to parse the language in an attempt to make it mean something less politically polarizing.”
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ditto....I was watching to see what he would do...he passed the test.
“Shield” wrote: “Read Romans 1...”
Here are verses 18-21 and 26-27:
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened...
“For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.”
Before anyone condemns to hell those who engage in homosexual activity, please consider the end of the chapter and the beginning of the next one.
Here are verses 28-32:
“And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”
And here are the first four verses of chapter 2:
“Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?”
I’d summarize by saying yes, homosexual activity is wrong, and in a better world it would still be illegal, but judging the soul of another person—even a blatant sinner—is God’s job and not ours.
“CanaGuy” wrote: “Leviticus 18:22”...
Leviticus 18:22 says, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”
In the interest of full disclosure, we ought to note that those words were directed specifically to ancient Israel and wouldn’t necessarily apply to us if the New Testament didn’t confirm them.
By 1992 everyone knew AIDS was transmitted via drug use and sex, mostly gay sex.
What he said was ridiculous, backwards and way out of line. If he is the nominee, we are doomed.
“Go back and read what I said again. It was so off the wall I figured I didn’t even need the sarcasm tag.”
Maybe you’re unfamiliar with some of the off-the-wall statements Waters has actually made. Your apparent carelessness would be an effective way to start a rumor that discredits the conservative cause. Your mistake.
Huckabee is not my first choice, but if he is the nominee, Christians will go to the polls in numbers never imagined possible and it would sweep in a wave of GOP Representatives and Senators. Many Dems in “safe” seats would be defeated.
Magic Johnson quit the NBA in late 1991 because of the fear of transmitting it through contact. So Mike was being honest again, much to the chagrin of his liberal detractors.
Right, it must be true if Maxine Waters said it.
God gave them over to a depraved mind,
Why? - “And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer,
List of sins for part 2 of the continuing judgment of God are: to do those things which are not proper,29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice;...
"But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?"
Mt 7:1-5
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Jesus commands us to judge, but in the right way.
“Huckabee is not my first choice, but if he is the nominee, Christians will go to the polls in numbers never imagined possible and it would sweep in a wave of GOP Representatives and Senators. Many Dems in “safe” seats would be defeated.”
I don’t think so. Many true conservatives, whether christian or not, will sit out the general electtion rather than vote for a RINO. They abhor Huckabee.
If the GOP regains control of the House, Huckabees tax and spend policies will not happen.
“If the GOP regains control of the House, Huckabees tax and spend policies will not happen.”
I have no faith in that happening.
Game, Set and Match...
Huck's gonna be President. The media will hate him, attempt to humiliate him, chase him around badgering him about violating someone's "civic rights"....
...and America will love him!
And more gays, too...
Now that is just too funny. I made sure I stated nothing and only pointed out Romans 1. Yet, you’ve taken it on yourself to tell me something I DID NOT SAY. WOW...that assumption on your part is way over the line. Who is judging here?
“Right, it must be true if Maxine Waters said it.”
You forgot the sarcasm tag again.
I wasn’t referring to what Waters had supposedly said about Reagan. That would discredit Waters. I was referring to what you said about Waters. That would discredit any conservative who repeated it.
“Jesus commands us to judge, but in the right way.”
True. We’re supposed to condemn sinful behavior, but condemning people is God’s job.
Whoever thought we would see the day when a Republican candidate is attacked on Free Republic for opposing homosexuality and treating AIDS like any other fatally contageous disease. Y’all are so intent on defeating Huckabee that you are taking the side of liberals — disgusting.
“Many true conservatives, whether christian or not, will sit out the general electtion rather than vote for a RINO. They abhor Huckabee.”
Governor Huckabee isn’t a RINO, or a liberal, or a socialist, or an open-borders advocate, and no one benefits in the long run when those labels are applied to him.
“Shield” wrote: “Now that is just too funny. I made sure I stated nothing and only pointed out Romans 1. Yet, you’ve taken it on yourself to tell me something I DID NOT SAY. WOW...that assumption on your part is way over the line.”
What assumption do you mean?
“Shield” wrote: “Who is judging here?”
I’m getting the feeling you are, but by all means correct me if I’m wrong.
Are there really people that are going to fall for his bs.
Sounds like the usual garbage coming out of a Hope, AK person.
Leviticus 11:11
Mike is a man of courage to continue to go against the PC crowd!
He knows how this will play in the MSM, but still sticks by his statement.
Good job MH!
I believe he is probably a good man; but I don’t believe he will be against the PC crowd. I believe he is just saying what the public wants to hear.
No more Hope, AR men.
The big fraud that should be told is how the gay community refused to close their bath houses in CA and pushed hard to not let the MSM and others label the disease early on as associated almost exclusively with gay sex (in the USA at the early stage). This led to our blood bank being tainted and children paying the price with hemophiliacs being hit first. This is a fact that has been little reported but much known. Instead the MSM made people think the non gay people next door was a danger when they were not. Many died because of this. Many gay men died because of this. It was known where the LARGE majority of cases were spreading from and because of the gay lobby nothing was done.
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