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BORDERLANDS Land granted from King of Spain could see new owner — Uncle Sam
The Brownsville Herald ^
| Kevin Sieff
Posted on 12/09/2007 11:26:45 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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"Eloisa Tamez stands on the 1930s levee that split her family land in two. She is resisting the construction of a border fence that will further divide the land on which her family has been living since the 1780s."
To: SwinneySwitch; B-Chan; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; T.L.Sink; sinkspur; SSS Two
Interesting Texas history.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:31:59 AM PST
by
Clintonfatigued
(You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
To: SwinneySwitch
“All lands are belong to me” SCOTUS
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:39:46 AM PST
by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: SwinneySwitch
I definitely believe in property rights. I also believe in the Border Fence. Why not circumvent the property, either to the north or the south, of those who have valid objections to the Fence’s crossing their property?
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:44:28 AM PST
by
Savage Beast
("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
To: SwinneySwitch
Too bad they can’t put the fence down the border line...... the middle of the Rio Grande.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:45:27 AM PST
by
deport
(---24 days Iowa Caucuses--- 29 days New Hampshire votes--- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
To: Clintonfatigued
wonder if Galen Greaser is a hispanic
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:46:20 AM PST
by
yazdankurd
(Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat)
To: deport
So, Spain “surveyed” this part of the SW ?
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:47:19 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
To: Don Corleone
The problem I see is that the area they are surveying for the border fence is anywhere from hundreds to thousands of feet inside the US border. The fence should be as exactly on the border as possible.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:47:26 AM PST
by
tbw2
(Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
To: Don Corleone
But if the wall is built to the north of the levee as officials have told landowners it will be fair market value will not satisfy Benavidez, 76, and her husband, Jose, 80.
We have four cows that we keep on the south side of the levee, she said, and Jose tends to them a few times every day. He takes pride in taking care of the cows.
Oh okay, we wont build the Border Fence then! /s
To: tbw2
the area between the rio bravo and the fence will be called the DMZ.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:49:12 AM PST
by
yazdankurd
(Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat)
To: Clintonfatigued
Very interesting. The Spanish Borderlands form a part of our history that is not very well known. I live in North Florida, and of course we were under Spain (except for a brief British period) until 1821, and the Spanish trail that led inland, following along the border, started here.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:52:51 AM PST
by
livius
To: SwinneySwitch
Legitimate use of eminent domain if you ask me. Not building a shopping center or something.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:53:48 AM PST
by
sharkhawk
(Here come the Hawks)
To: deport
One wanders what the criteria is to decide the route of the border fence. I naively thought that it would run along the Rio Grande. Then one has to consider floods, etc. It definitely should not split someone’s property in two.IMHO
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:54:15 AM PST
by
Citizen Tom Paine
(Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
To: tbw2
No it should be as close as possible while staying out of the flood plain - hence just inside the woman’s levee. Lets not put up a fence that gets swept away when we have a wet spring. We don’t want a wall we have to perpetually rebuild due to hubris on our part.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:55:52 AM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
To: SwinneySwitch
I wonder how the feds can do this ? Texas might be able to, by why the Feds ?
From "http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=492" post # 3
Texas never ceded it's land rights to the USA as a condition of Statehood. (All other states have)
Texas retained its land rights so if Texas ever had ownership of the Land in question it may be able to sustain an eminent domain case if it qualifies for the other elements of an eminent domain action.
If it does so qualify, a land patent from Texas will not help you.
However, an original Spanish Land Grant that predates Texas could be lawfully sufficient to hold off an eminent domain action if Texas never had ownership rights over that private land.
These folks are doing great things with "Land Patents"
To: SwinneySwitch
Those in power have absolutely NO INTENTION of building any real fence.
Proof: They showed up in November 2007.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:57:42 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: SwinneySwitch
I can see that they may not want to put the fence in the middle of the river, and no doubt the environmentalists would scream if they put it right along the banks.
But . . . .
As I understand it, when you put up a fence along a property line, after a certain number of years it defines the property line. If you put it up several feet or more on your side of the line, you risk giving your neighbor the property you fail to fence.
He uses it for a certain number of years, and then he has a claim to own it, under the adverse property law we just saw abused in Texas.
It wouldn’t be beyond a good engineer to put the fence in the middle of the river, for that matter, would it? with maybe some backups on our side? I don’t see why we should hand over what might amount to hundreds of square miles of property to Mexico as a reward for their constant violation of our border.
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posted on
12/09/2007 11:57:55 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: SwinneySwitch
This reminds me of the manufactured heartstring pull stories about the wall around parts of Israel. Reporters would find people inconvenienced/wronged by the wall, and put their stories up on page one every day.
Then the lawyers get involved (who could anticipate that?), with the intent of backdoor blocking the security system. Oh, you want secure borders? Sorry, those who want the illegals here can block you without recourse.
To: sharkhawk
The wall would have already been built if it were as important as a new shopping center. :0)
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posted on
12/09/2007 12:03:19 PM PST
by
seemoAR
To: SwinneySwitch
According to Mike Friel, a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, more landowners in South Texas will be affected by the walls construction than anywhere else along the border. Texas has the longest border with Mexico of any state.
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