BORDERLANDS Land granted from King of Spain could see new owner — Uncle Sam

The Brownsville Herald ^ | Kevin Sieff

[Redbob]

There are Spanish land grants all over Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona, lands still in the families of those to whom the King of Spain granted them.

[deport]

From El Paso east, though, we need a better idea.

---

Well maybe it could be built along the Mexican-Dixon line... that’s a straight line running east out of El Paso to Houston....

[VirginiaConstitutionalist]

Am I the only one catching the irony of protecting American values and spending less money...

...by spending hundreds of billions of dollars on building, staffing, maintaining and defending a wall that slices up American citizens’ property and hurts their ability to earn a living?

[gubamyster]

ping

[Cicero]

Free Fire Zones.

What I was saying on another thread: ultimately, "sovereignty"--and freedom, which derives from sovereignty--means that a nation is willing and able to defend itself against external and internal threats to its citizens.

[3AngelaD]

One option would be to build the fence for miles and miles on both sides of this particular property, but leave the Tamez section unfenced. This would funnel all of the illegals in that sector across the Tamaz property, which I am sure they wouldn’t mind, and which would of course do no harm to the cows. Then the Border Patrol could pick them off as they came across.

[dalereed]

Just put it on the north side of her “spanish” property snd tell her she noe lives in Mexico.

[DoughtyOne]

There is a need for a border fence. There are going to be families inconvenienced. That is a sad fact. While this is a moving story about a family whose land has remained in tact from the late 1700s, let’s not get all teary and go wobbly.

When freeways and other projects took place in the United States, there were other families inconvenienced. Their property was split in two. This border fence issue isn’t something we’ve never seen before.

Folks, over the next five to ten years you can expect to see every tear jerker you never imagined lofted to show what a terrible travesty of humanity this border fence is going to be.

If a way could be found to allow passage of these families across the border to their land, I would be for it. The goal isn’t to inconvenience land owners. The goal is to stop the invasion.

It would be a real shame if these folks had to travel a long distance to get to the other side of their property.

If Mexico had any class, it would have put an end to this a long time ago. Now land grant families will have to deal with something they shoudn’t have had to. IT IS NOT the fault of the government of the United States.

I saw some of the comments at the link. Those folks are nincompoops.

[DoughtyOne]

So you opposed every highway ever built in the United States. Good to know.

[VirginiaConstitutionalist]

Wow. Did you pull a hamstring jumping to that conclusion?

[SwinneySwitch]

It’s a fence, Virginia.

[VirginiaConstitutionalist]

I know, that’s why I’m confused as to how highways ever entered the argument.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

"eventually sold some of it to the US from which other states or parts of other states were formed. Texas used the money to pay off debts of the newly formed state."

So that's why Texas lost the strips of land to its north--wondered about that. Interesting information.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Brownsville is basically Gulf Coast.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I completely agree.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Did it also include Florida, Cuba, Central America, Guam, the Northern Marianas, and the Philippines?

Map of 'Mexico' prior to Mexican independence (soon after the Louisiana Purchase from the looks of it--though Iberia and northern Italy aren't French.....eh, other freepers can work it out.) in red, from a non-established source:

P.S. Ethiopia looks tiny (guessing that it's the upside heartish blob to the south of the Ottoman Empire).

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Much of the contiguous western United States was Mexican for only around 38 years, and was practically Spanish only on paper (the Russians actually built at least one outpost in what is now California) rather than de facto.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

That's a pretty unsubstantiated statement.

Any evidence to support this, or did you just come to this conclusion by the owner's surname?