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Rudy Giuliani grilled on 'Meet the Press' (Russert lacerates smirking, irrational Giuliani)
DAILY NEWS ^ | Sunday, December 9th 2007 | THOMAS M. DeFRANK, DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

Posted on 12/09/2007 6:19:49 PM PST by Liz

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani doggedly insisted Sunday that threats against then-girlfriend Judith Nathan prompted the NYPD to launch her taxpayer-funded chauffeur services. "These were all based upon threat assessments made by the New York City Police Department ... of what was necessary to protect her life, my life, other people's lives," Giuliani told NBC’s Tim Russert. "Every single thing done here was done based upon the assessment of someone else that this was necessary." His explanation of Nathan's car service doesn't square with Friday’s Daily News exclusive report, citing multiple witnesses and a law enforcement source, that she was being protected by city taxpayers months before the affair was revealed in May 2000. "The threats were after" their romance became known, Giuliani maintained yesterday.

The only guest on Russert's "Meet the Press," Giuliani endured the most exhaustive and at times withering examination of his personal character and business dealings of his campaign. To the glee of fellow Presidential contenders who've grudgingly marvelled at his political staying power, the Republican frontrunner spent nearly all of an hour playing defense, attempting to deflect a flurry of questions about his relationship with indicted pal Bernard Kerik and Kerik's mistress Judith Regan, controversial corporate clients and his own tangled personal life. "He's held up in the polls a lot longer than anyone thought," a neutral GOP consultant predicted, "but the baggage is finally starting to catch up with him."

Giuliani said again that he did a poor job of vetting Kerik but denied he allowed personal loyalty to trump his judgment. He said he knew Regan was Kerik's publisher but wasn’t aware of their Ground Zero love nest in a pad reserved for recovery workers. He defended the activities of his security and legal businesses as "ethical, lawful, decent work," but said he won’t release a list of his clients because he's promised many of them confidentiality.

In one seemingly contradictory answer, Giuliani said he’ll consider further disclosures at a later date: "I'm not going to do more than what is absolutely required, and we'll go further than that." Predictably, Democrats piled on. "Rudy Giuliani's refusal to be honest about his shady past is becoming a chronic habit," Democratic National Committee spokesman Dag Vega jabbed. As voters learn about his penchant for covering up scandals, they will continue to turn away from his candidacy."

The usually-combative candidate was uncharacteristically subdued throughout the grilling. Somberly dressed in a dark suit, white shirt and TK tie, Giuliani employed many of the timeworn techniques of damage control. He turned the tables on his inquisitor - "that's a stretch," he politely complained once - and borrowed from the Watergate scandal's signature "mistakes were made" rationale.Stealing a page from Hillary Clinton’s script, he wielded a tactical laugh now and then. He blamed the media for hyping the facts, and invoked the memory of a fellow ex-mayor to explain his poor judgment about Kerik. "As one of my predecessors, Fiorello LaGuardia, used to say, 'I don't make many mistakes, but when I make them, they're big ones.'"

That was a reference to LaGuardia's celebrated 1941 wisecrack: "When I make a mistake, it's a beaut." In a rare interlude from his self-defense chores, Giuliani took issue with ex-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's 1992 remark that homosexuality is an "aberrant" lifestyle. "I don't believe it's sinful," he said. "It’s the various acts that people perform that are sinful, not the orientation that they have." The corps of sinners, he added, includes His Honor: "I've had my own sins that I’ve had to confess and had to deal with and try to overcome, and so I'm very, very empathetic with people, and that we're all imperfect human beings struggling to try to be better."

With David Saltonstall


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KEYWORDS: elections; giuliani; judith; lizhanover; mtp; russert
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Tim Russert provided a great public service. Thanks to Russert, Rudy exposed numerous glaring personality and character flaws.

I urge every FReeper to read this (or catch MTP reruns on MSNBC).

Meet The Press transcript. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22170668/

Russert reamed Giuliani unmercifully. Russert was visibly disgusted at Rooty’s moronic laughing and giggling over every serious question. Russert even reprimanded RG: “hey, these are serious questions.”

Russert hit RG with Kerik, security for Jooty, and scummy business dealings-—real hardball questions.

The smirking grinning weasel lied and lied and lied. He and his admin fiverted government funds to give his nimbo 24/7 security coverage. Obscure agencies with struggling budgets were saddled with the bills for Rooty's mistress.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, said in 2002, several months after taking office, that the Giuliani administration had kept the budget for the mayor’s office artificially low by paying more than $5 million in salaries through other city agencies.

Cannot fathom even a braindead liberal countenancing RG’s irrational, crackpot answers to Russert——so convoluted as to be incomprehensible.

When Giuliani tells Russert he’s gonna win primaries ourside of Iowa and NH-—better believe Rooty and his neopuke handlers will employ massive voter fraud.....and God knows what else.

No one in their right mind would vote for this grinning, irrational nitwit.

1 posted on 12/09/2007 6:19:51 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Acutally, Liz, Russert looked like an idiotic fool.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 6:25:01 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Liz
Every question to a Republican is an attack on some past action, requiring defensive answers. They then have a week's worth of negative sound bites for Americans to hear on the half hour radio news.

Many hours could be filled asking Sen. Clinton such questions, but she, and other Dems, get questions asking them what wonderful plans thay have to provide every needy American health care, insurance, housing, education, etc. What a sickening double standard.

3 posted on 12/09/2007 6:25:12 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Liz

Yeah, great service, taking down a potential GOP candidate while giving a free pass to the DNC candidate(s). As usual, double standard against the repubs. “No one in their right mind would vote for this grinning, irrational nitwit.” Nope, now more will vote for the Democratic candidate. Yeah, victory! /sar.

I would be as happy as you if there was an ounce of possibility dems would be subject to the same. They won’t be.


4 posted on 12/09/2007 6:27:45 PM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Liz

While I’m happy to see Rudy get serious questions about his weaknesses we shouldn’t gloat. Expect the Republican nominee to get the same treatment from Russert, especially now that he’s been targeted by Hitlery.

He has to get his cred back somehow. /s/


5 posted on 12/09/2007 6:28:35 PM PST by saganite
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To: Bahbah

Actually, Bahbah........no.

Russert looked as disgusted w/ the grinning dork Giuliani, as was the audience.


6 posted on 12/09/2007 6:29:03 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Bahbah

I think the quote on your profile applies here:

“While it’s true that I invariably vote for Republicans, I never fool myself into thinking they’ll be anything except better than their Democratic opponents. Those people who are hurt by such political facts of life are to be pitied. It’s like a child’s discovery that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren’t who they’ve been cracked up to be. To such conservatives, all I can say is: Grow up.” Bert Prelutsky October 25, 2005

Celebrating the MSM drive by on a Republican (yes, even a RINO) is simply enjoying the greater possibility of a DNC victory.


7 posted on 12/09/2007 6:30:07 PM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Liz

The rest of us seem to disagree.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936903/posts


8 posted on 12/09/2007 6:30:18 PM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: Freee-dame
Every question to a Republican is an attack on some past action, requiring defensive answers. They then have a week's worth of negative sound bites for Americans to hear on the half hour radio news.

Sorry, but in Rudy's case, I do not agree.

Rudy brought this on himself by his own sorry choices and actions.

His positions on the issues in the past and his actions in the past are all fair game for anyone trying to get at who Rudy truly is.

You just don't get to say whatever you want during the campaign season when you are running for president and not have it measured against your past actions.

Your actions ALWAYS speak louder than your words!
9 posted on 12/09/2007 6:30:24 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Liz

“....neopuke handlers will employ massive voter fraud.....”

Perhaps you are referring to ANY of the Democrat candidates.

Why so gleeful over yet another application of the LeftMedia’s double standard against Republicans?

I’m no fan of Giuliani, but let’s not side with over-rated journalistic hit men like the liar Russert.


10 posted on 12/09/2007 6:31:23 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: enough_idiocy
Celebrating the MSM drive by on a Republican (yes, even a RINO) is simply enjoying the greater possibility of a DNC victory.

Wrong!

First Rudy would have to actually be a Republican for that sentence to apply to him!
11 posted on 12/09/2007 6:31:38 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Liz

Oh, please.

Read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread for today in Breaking News.

What you say is not even close to the way most observers reported it. And most of them are NOT even Guiliani fans.

Bottom line, most though Rudy did fine and Tim looked foolish with his accusatory, hunched-over, frowning stance (as usual when not interviewing a democrat).


12 posted on 12/09/2007 6:33:21 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: saganite

I didn’t watch the program but my guess is that Russert still sees Giuliani as potentially an obstacle to a ‘Rat victory in November 2008 and wants to weaken him. Remember his role in the witchhunt against Scooter Libby (as far as I can tell, the evidence of Libby’s perjury consisted of Russert having a different recollection of fleeting phone conversations).


13 posted on 12/09/2007 6:35:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: wagglebee; SUSSA; calcowgirl; tear gas; Condor51; maine-iac7; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; Spiff; ...

Golly-—it’s after 9:00.

I thought the children would be in bed by now.

Where are the parents? Why are they letting the kids post on my thread?


14 posted on 12/09/2007 6:43:03 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
That Dim hack Russert is a poser, pretending to be a reporter. He always looks foolish up against someone who actually has responsibilities, is action oriented and produced results.

Which is why Russert loves Dims, since they never produce, just talk.

15 posted on 12/09/2007 6:49:44 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize you get to define what a Republican is.

Goldwater cautioned against this sort of infighting. I respect that people do not support Rudy because he’s not a true conservative (among various other reasons). I personally prefer other candidates. For similar reasons, I do not like Huckabee (immigration, taxes). Nonetheless, I don’t it’s fair to say who is and who isn’t a Republican.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but to say I’m wrong because he’s not a Republican in your opinion is, wrong.


16 posted on 12/09/2007 6:51:19 PM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Liz

Liz

Another seminar democrat plant

post your background please.


17 posted on 12/09/2007 6:54:21 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: Alas Babylon!

As unfortunate an exchange as this may have been (the one morning I didn’t watch the talking heads), I want to see Rudy take these hits NOW and prove he can withstand them ... rather than after he’s been anointed and we are stuck with him.


18 posted on 12/09/2007 6:55:38 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Calpernia

POSTED BY CALPERNIA Giuliani in recent weeks has faced a barrage of questions about New York police security costs for his trysts with Nathan and about his business clients, which have included the Persian Gulf country of Qatar. Although a U.S. ally, Qatar is accused of sheltering suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Khalid’s nephew, Ramzi Yousef, is the one that bombed the WTC in ‘93. Ramzi had a safe house in Brooklyn that he used. Khalid is also the one that had Daniel Pearl killed. Last story Pearl was working on was the Diamond underground trade ring.

Ironic that Giuliani has a partnership in the Diamonds Trade.

Giuliani’s Profitable Partnership
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933097/posts


19 posted on 12/09/2007 6:56:02 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

I don’t like Giuliani, but Russert is pathetic. I wouldn’t mind it if he asked questions like these of Kerry or Hillary, but he never does.


20 posted on 12/09/2007 6:58:11 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Amnesty is Huckabee's middle name!)
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To: Liz

bttt


21 posted on 12/09/2007 7:01:45 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Liz

Another seminar democrat plant

post your background please.


So why do you slime Liz like that?

Rudy deserves all the light we can give to his background.

He also deserves all the derision we can heep on him because of his own choices and positions on the issues.

All Liz does is too bring out the truth about Rudy, she maybe a little heavy handed at times, however, her heart is in the right place.

Once again, why the slime?
22 posted on 12/09/2007 7:02:28 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Liz

Rudy is the darling of the “character doesn’t matter” wing of the party.


23 posted on 12/09/2007 7:02:38 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

That would be like be saying:

CHICAGOFARMER

Another Seminar Rudy Plant

post your background please.


24 posted on 12/09/2007 7:04:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Liz
I saw it. I didn’t think Russert was all that effective.

Who cares about Rooty’s investments in Qatar — it’s not like it’s a surprise to anyone.

25 posted on 12/09/2007 7:11:12 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; Liz

A democrat plant?

Since 1997?

I doubt it.


26 posted on 12/09/2007 7:12:34 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Liz

Nah....some of us old guys are still up....

The way I see it -— Rudy wasn’t dragged into that interview.

The camera attracts some of these guys like a moth to a flame..

If one has a sordid past and “business” subjects he doesn’t wish to discuss in public — then one should avoid the MSM cameras!

None of us are perfect, or even near perfect -— but Rudy is so deeply flawed it’s impossible to consider him a viable candidate for office of President of the United States..

ALL candidates should get the type “grilling” Rudy got..
Most don’t have the courage to submit — or believe they are smart enough to bullshit their way through the interview.

Rudy was wrong...


27 posted on 12/09/2007 7:12:54 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Bahbah

I read the entire Sunday Morning Talk show thread and this is definitely a minority opinion.


28 posted on 12/09/2007 7:15:45 PM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: Liz
Tim Russert provided a great public service. Thanks to Russert, Rudy exposed numerous glaring personality and character flaws.

He did the same to Hillary too! Maybe his FBI file is outdated.

29 posted on 12/09/2007 7:16:04 PM PST by pray4liberty (I pray and I vote.)
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To: Liz

If you don’t want people to react to your thread, I suggest you post it elsewhere.

Free Republic folks are informed, opinionated and not afraid of you.


30 posted on 12/09/2007 7:17:16 PM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: Liz
[Image]

The emir of Qatar, Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, left, shakes hands with New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, center, as New York Police Commisioner Bernard Kerik, right, looks on Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2001, at World Trade Center disaster command center in New York. His Highness made a donation of $1 million

31 posted on 12/09/2007 7:18:23 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Liz
I listened to it on the radio.

Rudy was lousy.

He must have repeated the fact that there are U.S. soldiers in Qutar at least a dozen times to several different questions.

He sucked. Big time.

32 posted on 12/09/2007 7:18:54 PM PST by JRochelle (Thanks to RomneyCare, abortions in MA are at the reduced price of only $50.00!)
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To: Calpernia

Is that the guy who Rudy gave the check back to?

Rudy has had lots and lots of business dealings with Qatar since 9/11.

What are the odds?


33 posted on 12/09/2007 7:21:17 PM PST by JRochelle (Thanks to RomneyCare, abortions in MA are at the reduced price of only $50.00!)
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To: enough_idiocy; Bahbah
Celebrating the MSM drive by on a Republican (yes, even a RINO) is simply enjoying the greater possibility of a DNC victory.

Yes, since when do FReepers laud the likes of Tim Russert?
Not a good trend, imo.

34 posted on 12/09/2007 7:21:30 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: JRochelle

Giuliani returned a donation from Alwaleed bin Talal. That picture is of Giuliani and the emir of Qatar. Different donation.


35 posted on 12/09/2007 7:32:34 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pray4liberty

“Tim Russert provided a great public service. Thanks to Russert, Rudy exposed numerous glaring personality and character flaws.
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He did the same to Hillary too! Maybe his FBI file is outdated.”


Please locate and post the Russert interview to which you refer, the one in which he “grilled” Hillary.


36 posted on 12/09/2007 7:43:31 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: JRochelle
Is that the guy who Rudy gave the check back to?

No, Rudy kept the money from this guy, the Qatar emir--he's the guy that protected Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and praised Hezbollah for their victory over Israel in Lebanon.

37 posted on 12/09/2007 7:43:45 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

Russert couldn’t lacerate a cabbage.


38 posted on 12/09/2007 7:49:38 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Rembrandt
That's the one where Russert demanded to know why she and Bill wouldn't release White House records and about the illegal aliens/licensing. I wouldn't call it a "grilling" but he made her look as bad as he dared.

I'm sure you can find it somewhere.

39 posted on 12/09/2007 7:50:45 PM PST by pray4liberty (I pray and I vote.)
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To: Rembrandt; pray4liberty

Russert grilled Hillary pretty well on Iraq

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20941413/


40 posted on 12/09/2007 8:02:37 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: La Enchiladita; Bahbah

destruction from within.

In a 1960 speech Goldwater warned against what I see on here on everyday - he’s not my kind of conservative so I can’t support him. I respect adhering to principles and pushing for the best candidate, but ceding the country to liberals is worse then getting a mixed bag conservative or recent convert.

There seems to be one line of thinking that if we punish the GOP by only supporting a “true” conservative and rejecting anything less, they’ll shape up. The other is, why suffer for years (possibly decades) in hopes of that theory?


41 posted on 12/09/2007 8:18:39 PM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Liz

If Russert is taking the lead on this, then that’s got to mean tootyfruityrudy’s downfall is in the bag.

B4DH

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


42 posted on 12/09/2007 8:23:02 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Liz
Tim’s doing penance for actually asking legitimate questions of Democrats at the Hillary debate debacle.
43 posted on 12/09/2007 8:26:32 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: enough_idiocy

So far tonight on FR I have read articles attacking Rudy, Romney, Huckabee, Paul, McCain and Thompson. Until we true blue, pure, real conservatives are finished there won’t be a Republican candidate left standing who has a chance in hell of being elected. Nevermind that any one of the above would stand head and shoulders above any of the Democrats as president.


44 posted on 12/09/2007 8:35:06 PM PST by Russ
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To: enough_idiocy

Meanwhile, the “true conservative” remains at 1% or zero in the polls. So, the naysayers aren’t supporting him, either.


45 posted on 12/09/2007 8:37:11 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: altura

Nominating liberals like JulieAnnie will be the downfall of the party.


46 posted on 12/09/2007 8:55:02 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: La Enchiladita

go hunter?


47 posted on 12/09/2007 9:22:19 PM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: Calpernia
"The emir of Qatar, Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, left, shakes hands with New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, center, as New York Police Commisioner Bernard Kerik, right, looks on Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2001, at World Trade Center disaster command center in New York. His Highness made a donation of $1 million"

And your point is?

The amir of Qatar is our friend.

Bush thanks Amir of Qatar for support

President Bush May 8 thanked the leader of the tiny Gulf country of Qatar for his nation's steadfast support.

In brief remarks at the White House after the two leaders met, Bush said Hamad bin Khalifa al Thani "showed great leadership" in leading his country to join the coalition that took on Saddam Hussein's regime.

U.S. Central Command located its forward headquarters in Qatar before the conflict began.

Bush called the amir a "reformer" and "a strong example of what is possible in his part of the world." Al Thani has promoted a new constitution for Qatar that allows women to vote and has appointed women to his cabinet.

48 posted on 12/09/2007 9:30:27 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: SoConPubbie
>>>Liz...she maybe a little heavy handed at times<<<

I would have said "small minded", but your point is still apropo

49 posted on 12/09/2007 9:30:49 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Freee-dame

By God I believe you’ve got it right; pisses me off though.


50 posted on 12/09/2007 11:43:30 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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