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To: SuziQ
I'm going to make this as clear to you as possible. You are trying to interpret what just happened in a way that makes sense to you and your sensibilities, which attribute some sort of good will on the part of the Mexicans who pulled this stunt.

YOU ARE WRONG. THEY CAN SPEAK ENGLISH JUST FINE WHEN NEEDED. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING SO. ASSIMILATION IS SURRENDER TO THEM, AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING.

I don't know where you live now or what exposure you have had to "hispanics". As a group, I have experienced their animosity over and over and over again: THEY TELL YOU IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT SOMEDAY YOU WILL SPEAK SPANISH, AND THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO SPEAK THE HATED ANGLO LANGUAGE.

Ask almost anyone on this forum who lives in the Southwest. We've all been exposed.

No. You're wrong.

It is a matter of cultural and national conquest to them, and they take that seriously. Unlike you.

Suzi...I'm from the border. With Mexico. I didn't come by my opinions by accident. They come from exposure to these guys. ASK ANYONE FROM HERE.

I believe your estimate of 6% Hispanics is low

Pew Hispanic Center report

Believe me, Pew doesn't underreport.

Strutting, exaggerting, bragging, thumping your chest in comical self importance are all part of the Big Man Caudillo act. Inflating the numbers is not beyond them. But in a generation, they will be right - it's going to be 20%, largely due to negligence on the part of this President and his three predecessors.

how do you propose they're going to do that?

Simple. By walking in and staging abominations like Spanish Presidential debates, and demanding that the laws against them taking over be abandoned (like birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens), special privileges that reward their ethnicity and language (afrirmative action for the Conquistadors?), and forcing us to subsidize them.

Many have been here for years, but still converse better in their native tongues than in English

I know many Germans and French who live in Germany and France who speak perfect English having only learned it in school. I met a woman the other evening who married a citizen 10 years ago and moved here from Wurzburg who now speaks unaccented American English. She sounds like she's from Redondo Beach. When in American history was anything like this necessary? Were the 1920 election debates held in Italian?

You know and understand nothing of what is happening here. It is a full scale invasion and takeover mounted by a foreign government - mainly the government of Mexico. They saw the weakness of the Baby Boom generation, and decided to exploit it.

They appear to be fabulously successful. Largely because people like yourself give them ground.

91 posted on 12/10/2007 8:14:46 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

“YOU ARE WRONG. THEY CAN SPEAK ENGLISH JUST FINE WHEN NEEDED. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING SO. ASSIMILATION IS SURRENDER TO THEM, AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING.....It is a matter of cultural and national conquest to them, and they take that seriously”

You’ve summarized this well, Regulator. The ‘we are the world’ crowd simply won’t admit that all cultures are NOT the same. Even Calderone admits the difference.

Mexico president says ‘culture of machismo’ still strong

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/26/america/LA-GEN-Mexico-Machismo.php

Let me give you a history story about ‘assimiliaton’. Early in the 1800’s the Cherokee realized if they were to survive they had to ‘assimilate’ to the White power structure. They developed their own written language and in a matter of a few months virtually all of them learned to read and write it. At the same time they hired missionaries and teachers, sent their children to Dartmouth and where ever they could to learn and ‘assimilate’.

The point? If those ignorant ‘savages’ could do it 200 years ago with NO help from the government, I have no sympathy for the whiners of today.


97 posted on 12/10/2007 9:12:07 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Regulator
You know and understand nothing of what is happening here. It is a full scale invasion and takeover mounted by a foreign government - mainly the government of Mexico. They saw the weakness of the Baby Boom generation, and decided to exploit it.

Must be a perception thing. I don't see American voters falling over backwards to accommodate Mexico in any takeover bid. You seem to be fixated on Mexicans, and maybe your area of the country has a problem, but I don't see many illegal MEXICAN immigrants. The illegals in my area of the country are more likely from the former Soviet states, or Ireland.

Yes, Hispanic radicals made a lot of noise last year in their marches, and they got exactly NOWHERE because of it. These were the Reconquista people who I lump in the same category as the Black Power folks from the 1970's. They made a lot of noise, but their radicalism did them in. Black people made their way in society, and Spanish speaking immigrants will do the same thing, as they work their way up the economic ladder, no thanks to the blowhards in their midst.

And you can yell all you want, but not all Spanish speaking immigrants are unwilling to assimilate. Sure, they like the cultural trappings from their home country, so do the Italians and Irish who have big celebrations and parades and keep their cultures alive in their households. I'm not threatened by St. Patrick's Day parades or the Feast of San Gennaro, and Cinco de Mayo doesn't scare me either.

98 posted on 12/10/2007 9:22:47 AM PST by SuziQ
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