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Huckabee Pardons Under Scrutiny (Note: 2x The Total of 3 Predecessors' Combined)
AP News Via Yahoo ^ | 10 December 2007 3:00 a.m. EST | Andrew DeMillo

Posted on 12/10/2007 4:07:14 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo

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To: AmericanInTokyo

Reminder:

“The parole board was made up entirely of Democrats appointed by Democrat Governors Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker (who was later convicted on federal charges and removed from office). Not one member of the board was appointed by Huckabee.”


51 posted on 12/10/2007 6:40:09 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: pissant
You know there, pissant-san, pretty soon WE are going to be into double digits and higher, and then DUNCAN is going to catch flak as a moving target!

But, I relish it and cannot wait. Bring it on!

I would rather be attacked with Duncan rising in the polls, than to be totally ignored by the media in a conspiracy of silence because they cannot stand the guy, and treated as a non entity.

52 posted on 12/10/2007 6:54:01 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So if we have "President Huckabee" in office, but it is a Democrat Senat and House sending lousy piece after lousy piece of legislation to his desk, he can sign of on it, but we can all relax because he can at the end of the day blame it on the Democrat Congress he has to work with?

That is not the President I want.

53 posted on 12/10/2007 6:55:46 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

He would be attacked, but the MSM’s best weapon is silence. Because when they rumble with Hunter, they get the snot knocked out of ‘em.


54 posted on 12/10/2007 6:57:44 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Maybe he’ll do like Slick Willie did and fry a retard to show how tough on crime he is.


55 posted on 12/10/2007 7:05:06 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Maybe I should use this tagline:
I don’t drink the same Jesus kool-aid that Huckster does

what do y’all think?

More on Huckster’s pardon spree:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabees-willie-hortons.html


56 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:20 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Huckabee granted 1,033 pardons and commutations in his 10 1/2 years as governor of Arkansas

Jeez louise. Last number I saw was 700+. I would really be interested in seeing a breakdown of names and crimes.

57 posted on 12/10/2007 8:15:20 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Mohito Loe

“In fact, it is apparent by the sheer number of pardons grated by huckleberry that the Democrats who say he pressured them for a pardon are probably lying. If he wanted the guy out, he could have done it himself.”

Hey newbie, it sounds like you bought into Huckster recent denials - despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary - that he didn’t pressure the parole board to parole Wayne DuMond. Since Dumond is now Huckabee’s Willie Horton, I would be glad to debate and discuss this further.

Mike Huckabee publicly called for Dumond to be release.
Mike Huckabee met personally with the parole board on the matter.
The parole board then changed votes and went in favor of parole.
Mike Huckabee then publicly praised the decision.

Now, years later, after the freed killer went on to rape and murder two women in Missouri, he pretends that he had nothing to do with it.

Mike likes to play Mr Forgiveness on brutal felons.
It undermines law-and-order and suggests he has a soft, liberal view on such matters.

Are the conservative skeptics wrong on this?

Dumond was *not* the only killer freed by the Huckster, see below:

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabees-willie-hortons.html


58 posted on 12/10/2007 8:21:21 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: Mohito Loe

“Third, Huckabee is getting a bum rap. He may have overused clemancy,”

Since he did it, it’s *NOT* a bum rap!!!!

” but Mitt Romney didn’t use it at all”

WELL, BULLY FOR MITT ROMNEY. THAT’S THE RIGHT IDEA.

” ... out of fear that someone might do something after being freed”

Duh! Of course! That’s why you don’t free killers willy-nilly.

And if Romney did it out of fear of his political career, it shows he has more brains than Huckster as well.

‘Fifth, if you look at the list of issues by importance, pardons don’t even register.”

Weak on crime as governor leads to weak on terrorism as President. He wants to close Gitmo and stop waterboarding. Compassionate softness can get people killed. Huckster is another Jimmy Carter.


59 posted on 12/10/2007 8:27:32 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“People with some contact to him get pardoned? Wow, whooda thunk it? You can’t pardon someone you’ve never heard of, and having some kind of personal contact method helps you hear of them.”

So, we’ve got Clinton-style pardons without the groping. Oh Joy.

“I believe Huckabee is an honest man, and all of this can be explained simply by him having bleeding-heart liberal tendencies.”

Which we need in the GOP nomination like a fish needs a bicycle.


60 posted on 12/10/2007 8:29:20 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: WOSG
Which we need in the GOP nomination like a fish needs a bicycle.

I never said I supported Huckabee. But he isn't Clinton, so I don't believe any of the pardons were for payment or influence.

61 posted on 12/10/2007 8:59:47 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
First, Huckabee can just be one of those Christians who really takes the forgiveness and mercy aspect of the religion to heart.

At what point do we lose any deterrance to crime through punishment/jail? Hell, lets just pardon everybody from the get-go and close all the jails, if we're in the forgiveness business. Pfft!

And look at the RATE of his pardons for crying out loud. Even the most forgiving governor better be able to recognize that crime must be punished and punishment must be served.

People with some contact to him get pardoned? Wow, whooda thunk it? You can’t pardon someone you’ve never heard of, and having some kind of personal contact method helps you hear of them.

Ex-employees, old school mates aside I suppose. Your logic leaves a lot to be desired. Why in the Sam Hill should we put up with this level of croney-ism from our elected officials? Here's my stand: I DON'T.

BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL TENDENCIES

Buddy, you can say that again. Count me OUT for voting in a soft on crime POTUS!

Crikey, this guy Huckabee is flat-out dangerous.

63 posted on 12/10/2007 10:16:57 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“I never said I supported Huckabee. But he isn’t Clinton, so I don’t believe any of the pardons were for payment or influence.”

Fair enough. soft on crime, but not corrupt decisions.

In the Glen Green case, where he freed a murderer, he didn’t follow standard protocols however. A preacher friend chats with him and that’s it. There is something disturbing about how it was done, even if it wasn’t corrupt.

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabees-willie-hortons.html

” Gov. Huckabee probably never read the confession of a demented killer named Glen Green before he made the monster eligible for parole. Green’s confession is so depraved, its sadistic details so scary that no sane, responsible adult would consider him for parole. If the governor didn’t read the confession, he is guilty of dereliction of duty. But if he read the confession and still considers Green deserving of parole, he’s certainly unfit to hold office. ...

In usual fashion, Huckabee’s office didn’t even contact the victim’s family about the clemency.
Although he’s required to by the Constitution, the governor, as is his custom, won’t say why he granted clemency to this crazed killer (over the unanimous objections of the Post-Prison Transfer Board). “


64 posted on 12/10/2007 10:27:29 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: Mohito Loe

“Stalin isn’t running”

Huck’s a slick, pro-life Jimmy Carter/John Edwards soft-on-crime tax-and-spend nanny-stater. I would never compare him with Stalin.
Stalin is who we face in the general (aka Hillary). :-)

“who’s your next choice?”

These are the GOP choices that are better than Mike Huckabee, in approximate order of preference, YMMV:
1. Mitt Romney
2. Fred Thompson
3. Duncan Hunter
4. Tom Tancredo
5. John McCain
6. Rudy Guiliani
7. Ron Paul

Yup. As of today, I’ve decided that even Ron Paul would make a better President than Mike Huckabee. A small-Govt Constitutionalist isolationist beats a nanny-state ‘compassionate’ populist.


65 posted on 12/10/2007 10:36:52 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: prairiebreeze
Ex-employees, old school mates aside I suppose. Your logic leaves a lot to be desired. Why in the Sam Hill should we put up with this level of croney-ism from our elected officials?

There's a difference between cronyism and the news of a supposedly deserving person getting to him through that route. Honestly, I don't know why, but I think Huckabee is above such corruption. Maybe we're still cynical after Clinton's pardons.

I believe Huckabee has a very strong sense of morality, but it is in contention with an equally strong sense of mercy. Both are admirable attributes, but he apparently doesn't have the wisdom to apply them appropriately.

66 posted on 12/10/2007 10:52:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: WOSG
A preacher friend chats with him and that’s it.

That's probably what did it, preacher to preacher. The preacher probably thought Green was "saved," and Huckabee believed him. He's just too merciful and trusting, to the point of being naive. Makes you wonder what he'd do if we caught Osama.

67 posted on 12/10/2007 10:58:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

“The preacher probably thought Green was “saved,” and Huckabee believed him.”

I prefer how GWB handled the ‘saved’ woman murderer who had killed an innocent with an ice pick. No reprieve from the death penalty. If they are saved, God will take care of them in the next life.

“Makes you wonder what he’d do if we caught Osama.”

With Huck, there’s no Gitmo and waterboarding is off the table. Shades of Jimmy Carter.


68 posted on 12/10/2007 11:07:25 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“Honestly, I don’t know why, but I think Huckabee is above such corruption.”

I don’t know why either, since that’s at variance with the facts.

Let’s go with the facts:
http://therealmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/
Soliciting gifts from public: “Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet, are registered for home furnishing gifts at Target and Dillard’s department stores as they prepare to leave the Governor’s Mansion in January and move into a house they recently purchased in North Little Rock. “

http://realmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/

http://realmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/2007/12/meet-huckster-san-diego-union-tribune.html

“Meet the Huckster
San-Diego Union-Tribune Editorial
December 3, 2007
(Excerpted, click here to read the rest)

Nearly two years into history’s longest presidential campaign, Americans have already heard a bit about the pros and a lot about the cons of all the major candidates.

(snip)

Unfortunately for Huckabee, the positive first impression he often makes fades when you learn more about him. He may have been a solid steward in his 14 years as lieutenant governor and governor in Arkansas. But he also showed an enthusiasm for parlaying his public office into a cushy lifestyle that makes Fabian NÚñez, California’s similarly inclined Assembly speaker, look like a Boy Scout.

Over the years, Huckabee has:

-Used campaign funds to pay himself $14,000 for being his own media consultant.

-Used campaign funds to pay himself $43,000 for use of his private plane while attempting to hide what the payment was actually in return for.

-Used an account set up to cover operational costs of the governor’s mansion to pay such obviously personal expenses as fast-food and dry-cleaning bills.

-Set up a nonprofit organization that paid him $23,500 without disclosing the source of the money.

-Attempted to take $70,000 of furniture with him when moving out of the governor’s mansion.

-Took more than 130 gifts worth more than $300,000 – while suing to overturn a law that made him disclose the gifts.
We could go on in this vein, but space is limited. The bottom line: Mike Huckabee has an awful lot of explaining to do. And neither voters nor the national media should let the man Arkansas journalists call the “Huckster” get away with pretending that tough questions over his tawdry ethics record amount to mudslinging. “


69 posted on 12/10/2007 12:29:05 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: traderrob6

One more reason pops up every day:

Huck’s gone “Jimmah” on us on foreign policy .... from NRO via Redstate ...

http://www.redstate.com/redhot/dan_mclaughlin/2007/dec/10/nr_on_huckabees_foreign_policy_views_comments_enabled

“This is the kernel of Huckabee’s foreign policy. He wants to anthropomorphize international relations and bring a Christian commitment to the Golden Rule to our affairs with other nations. As he told the Des Moines Register the other day, “You treat others the way you’d like to be treated. That’s to me the fundamental issue that has to be re-established in our dealings with other countries.”

This is deeply naïve. Countries aren’t people, and the world is more dangerous than a Sunday church social. Threats, deception, and — as a last resort — violence must play a role in international relations. Differences cannot always be worked out through sweet persuasion. A U.S. president who doesn’t realize this will repeat the experience of President Jimmy Carter at his most ineffectual.”


70 posted on 12/10/2007 1:05:47 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Another Huckabee corruption story:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2007/12/019240.php

Gee, maybe he should have been vetted *before* he became the SoCon stand-in.


71 posted on 12/10/2007 1:07:33 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: WOSG
Another Huckabee corruption story:

Sounds more like a hypocrisy story. Makes me even happier that he's not my pick.

72 posted on 12/10/2007 1:11:46 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: WOSG

So much for my somewhat rosy image of him. Definitely not the Huckster.


73 posted on 12/10/2007 1:14:04 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Taking this at the level he likes to address things(my soul won’t let me ...WTH?!?!?) Jesus promised the repentant criminal on the cross next to His that he would be with him in Heaven, he did not let him down off the cross.


74 posted on 12/10/2007 1:16:28 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They left out Glen Green who beat an 18-year-old woman with Chinese martial-arts sticks, raped her raped her because her body was still warm, ran over her with his car, then dumped her in the bayou, her hand reaching up, as if begging for mercy. Rev. Johnny Jackson, interim pastor at Bethel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, called the rape/murder an accident, and Huckabee turned Green loose.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/huckabee5.html


75 posted on 12/10/2007 1:23:11 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thousands of pardons for CONVICTED criminals? That is way over the line.
This guy will pardon Osama Bin Laden when caught!!

Sorry Mike, I can not vote for a bleeding heart serial pardoner of convicted criminals.

76 posted on 12/10/2007 1:47:18 PM PST by ajay_kumar
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To: prairiebreeze

“Please read the article!
A pastor who promoted Huckabee among blacks urged the governor to grant clemency to John Henry Claiborne, who was sentenced to 100 years for a 1994 armed robbery, according to a 2004 report in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Huckabee made Claiborne eligible for parole after receiving a letter from the Rev. Charles Williams, who told the newspaper he had helped win “many, many” clemencies from Huckabee.”

Well, it looks like Huck will take orders from his fellow pastors, at least when it comes to pardons. This kind of stuff, plus his ‘Jesus wants me to be president’ makes me think he wants a theocracy in America, a de facto one at least.


77 posted on 12/10/2007 2:45:58 PM PST by Grig
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Elwood: They’re not gonna catch us. We’re on a mission from God. ...


78 posted on 12/10/2007 3:00:37 PM PST by Gator113
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To: antiRepublicrat

Hate to pile on, but now I see this on race42008.com ...

#87 - you said: “does that include trashing government hardrives before leaving office?”

What’s ironic is that Huckabee was criticizing the destruction of the CIA information because he said it was obviously an attempt to cover someone’s rear - but yet he destroyed close to $500,000 of government hard drives when he left the governorship of Arkansas.

“The less you know about Huckabee, the more you like him.”


79 posted on 12/10/2007 4:15:57 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Funny, how those from arkansas, when presented with something they’ve done, casts the blame on someone else, ie, slick, his ?frau and now hickabee.


80 posted on 12/10/2007 7:17:41 PM PST by tillacum
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To: tillacum

They will hope to wiggle out of it over the next five weeks. However, they are doomed. Too much is already out there in the public domain, and it will start hitting the ground heavily in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, IMHO. I think his star to descend as quickly as it (artificially) rose, thanks to the conniving and sneaky US MSM.


81 posted on 12/10/2007 7:25:41 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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