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Terri's Day Announced - March 31 - Groups Call for Special Remembrances of Terri Schiavo
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/10/07 | LifeSiteNews

Posted on 12/10/2007 4:23:03 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: All; floriduh voter
So this guy writes in...

Bur first from me... Actually, having lived in Florida a couple times over the years, I must say, the topics he pooh-pooh's are illustrative of what bothers me greatly about the state. Shucks, I went to school in Florida in the forties and just loved the place. That remains. It is the Elian's and Terri's under the steam roller that blocks me from coming back.

Jean Reno, Major Reno, Reno NV, fine, Janet Reno, no way.

Your "Dueling Columnists" of Dec. 9, Florida's worst and best, had a few valid points, but was mostly repetitious on both sides, not unique as to Stephen L. Goldstein's points, and, frankly, idiotic as to Mr. Guy's listed items. Are we to celebrate the hyperbole and lunacy of the Elián Gonzalez and Terri Schiavo cases? We were a laughingstock during the butterfly ballot and chad count issues.

As to Floridians' "laid-back" attitude, how about calling it what it is? Stupidity and lack of interest, which brings me to Mr. Goldstein's first item, which, unfortunately, is true. However, as are his comments on crooked politicians and insurance companies, these are not unique to Florida.............

Two reasons to live in South Florida, two reasons not to live in South Florida

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151 posted on 12/21/2007 5:27:15 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; Lesforlife
Thread by wagglebee on American Right to Life and Mitt Romney...(Thanks, Les, for the tip...)

MEDIA ADVISORY, Dec. 20 /Christian Newswire/ -- American Right To Life Action, a new 527 political organization, is running its first political television ad statewide in Iowa starting today and through the Iowa Caucuses on January 3, 2008. "We have tested this ad with focus groups," said Steve Curtis, president of ARTL Action, "and it has everyone laughing, laughing with us, at Mitt Romney for being such an obvious liar about the most important issue for any leader in America: abortion."..............

American Right To Life Action Launches its First 527 Political TV Ad (Slams Romney)

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152 posted on 12/21/2007 5:34:04 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
The Legacy of Judas National Right to Life

Contact: Donna Ballentine, 888-888-2785

MEDIA ADVISORY, Dec. 20 /Christian Newswire/ -- The following is submitted by Brian Rohrbough, President, American RTL:

Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot went to the chief priests and said,
"What are you willing to give me if I deliver Him to you?"
And they counted out to him thirty pieces of silver.
So from that time he sought opportunity to betray Him.

In 1981, after president Ronald Reagan agreed he would sign federal personhood legislation for the unborn, National Right to Life and their longtime attorney James Bopp actually opposed that effort claiming they supported a states' rights approach. Move forward in time a quarter century to today. Notice that NRTL and Bopp have long opposed all state personhood efforts. Demonstrated below, NRTL has continuously promoted legislation that undermines the personhood of an innocent child.  In betrayal, NRTL quietly worked to oppose South Dakota's recent abortion ban referendum.  Now, like a thief in the night they are circulating a recent Bopp memo to pro-life legislators and religious organizations to oppose personhood efforts in Colorado and elsewhere. NRTL is attempting to turn pro-life officials against this legitimate effort to end abortion and enforce the God-given right to life.

A stalwart authority of the pro-life movement, Dr. Charles Rice of Notre Dame, accurately reports that not one of the U.S. Supreme Court justices, which includes those supported by NRTL, has ever affirmed personhood and the right to life for the unborn.  The Court's infamous Partial-Birth Abortion ruling advocates "an injection that kills the fetus," and "less shocking methods" of killing the same late-term children, and explicitly keeps PBA legal declaring that the baby can be delivered up to "the navel" and then terminated. This Gonzales v. Carhart decision is a virtual PBA manual. Yet against the landslide of changing opinion among pro-life leaders (because they have now read the decision for themselves), Bopp continues to praise these justices who delivered the most aggressively pro-abortion, brutally-wicked decision ever issued by a U.S. court.

Written on the letterhead of Bopp's law firm, this August 7, 2007 11-page memo states, "And some have shamelessly vilified the Supreme Court justices who gave us this important victory... This is a grave injustice to these justices..." -James Bopp

"Woe to you also, lawyers!
For you build the tombs of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
In fact, you bear witness that you approve the deeds of your fathers;
for they indeed killed them, and you build their tombs."

NRTL and their longtime lawyer Bopp bear witness that they approve of the justices they lobbied for, who rule to continue to slaughter the innocent. The grave injustice is against the unborn. The growing list of Christian pro-life leaders condemning the evil PBA ruling include:
• Judge Roy Moore
• Ambassador Alan Keyes (see 30-second clip)
• Human Life Int'l president Rev. Tom Euteneuer
• Notre Dame Law School Professor Charles Rice
• American Life League's Judie Brown
• Congressman Bob Dornan
• And many more.

And the founder of Focus on the Family also confirmed that:
"Ending partial-birth abortion… does not save a single human life." -Dr. James Dobson, May 2007, FocusAction.org.

James Bopp and NRTL led the partial-birth abortion fiasco that wasted fifteen years but raised for the pro-life industry a quarter-billion dollars on a PBA ban that from its very inception never had the authority to prevent a single abortion. Bopp is an Advisor to false pro-life candidate Mitt Romney and American RTL Action is now running its first 527 political TV ad on the Fox News Channel in Iowa exposing Romney.
153 posted on 12/21/2007 5:42:15 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Nothing like the truth to mess up mantras...

Thread by wagglebee.

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WASHINGTON, DC, December 20, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pro-abortion groups have worked furiously for over a year to force Nicaragua to reverse its total ban on abortion enacted in November 2006.  The relentless attacks from the West and Europe have led to several legal initiatives to reverse the decision which have all been overwhelmingly rebuffed by the country's legislature.

The lastest tactic has been an attempt to vilify the nation, and blame its pro-life law for endangering the lives of women.  An Associated Press article published November 27 in the Washington Times blamed the death of a 22-year-old newlywed with an ectopic pregnancy on the "no-exceptions ban on abortion."

The President of the Nicaraguan Medical Association, Dr. Walter Mendieta charged that the AP article written by Traci Carl was "misleading and grossly inaccurate."  Dr. Mendieta said that in Nicaragua, just as before the pro-life law "women with complications from pregnancy must be offered necessary treatment, even if such treatment may indirectly cause the death of their unborn babies."  His letter, co-signed by He added: "The law allows such medical procedures, and physicians failing to provide such care are liable."

The letter to the editor published in the Washington Times, was co-signed by Lucia Bohemer President of the Nicaraguan Association of Women and Dr. Rafael J. Cabrera a professor of obstetrics and gynecology and the director of the University of Medical Sciences in Nicaragua.

The letter notes that in the year since the pro-life legislative change went into effect maternal deaths declined. Moreover the letter says that "No woman has died in Nicaragua for not having a "therapeutic" abortion since the practice was banned in November 2006."

Nicaragua Medial Association President Reports Maternal Deaths Declined After Abortion Made Illegal

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154 posted on 12/21/2007 5:46:37 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; narses; Clintonfatigued
In Oklahoma, some swim against the rip tide. I have noticed more and more in stores and elsewhere that Merry Christmas is returning, but not, I guess, OK. Thread by Clintonfatigued. Thanks, narses.

Weatherford, OK – Southwestern Oklahoma State University (SWOSU), has issued a disturbing policy which requires all employees to refrain from using the word "Christmas" in oral or written form. This directive was given by the university upon legal advice of the Oklahoma Attorney General, W.A. Drew Edmondson. Liberty Counsel sent a demand letter to SWOSU following a complaint from a university affiliate.

Southwestern Oklahoma State University Bans the Word 'Christmas'

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155 posted on 12/21/2007 5:55:05 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
I like Duncan Hunter as you know.

Here's a summary of Bobby Schindler's meeting with Mitt Romney. None of the other candidates met w/him although they were right in St. Pete for that debate.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/rsj1128.htm

156 posted on 12/21/2007 4:50:54 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
We have heard it all before. The devil goes to church. The dark side infiltrates to corrupt all things good. In times past, the dark side would scarcely show, but now thanks to the Legacy left by Terri, it unmasks more and more. People we once thought to be allies or at least meaning well now are seen for their true colors.

In this instance, the supposedly pious seek loopholes in the clarifications by the Vatican, so they could continue their dark craft of murdering the innocent.

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WASHINGTON, D.C., December 21, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Catholic Health Association of the United States (CHUSA) posted a statement on its website interpreting a document by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) on the necessity of feeding and watering the disabled in a way contrary to its intended meaning.

CHUSA is the same organization that advised the USCCB to endorse offering the morning-after pill to victims of rape being treated in Catholic hospitals. It has now posted a letter on its website claiming to put the CDF document in its proper context. The letter is penned by John J. Hardt and Fr. Kevin D. O'Rourke, O.P., both bioethicists. O'Rourke is notorious as the priest who lobbied against the cause to keep Terri Schiavo alive. He stated that "for Christians, it is a blasphemy to keep people [like Terri Schiavo] alive."

In the current letter, the two bioethicists came to the conclusion that the CDF document errs on the side of not nourishing and hydrating patients, rather than the reverse, claiming that the document's meaning is much narrower than face value dictates.

"Many of the rules are repeated in one way or another in the present Code of Canon Law," the letter said. "Two canons of the present code are relevant for our study: Canon 18: Laws which establish a penalty or restrict free exercise of rights . . . are subject to strict interpretation. Canon 52: A singular decree has force only in respect to the matters which it decides and for the persons for whom it was given..........................................

U.S. Catholic Health Association Openly Defies Vatican Over Nutrition and Hydration of Disabled... Statement penned by same priest who called it a "blasphemy" to keep Terri Schiavo alive

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157 posted on 12/22/2007 2:52:37 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter
Thanks, FV. Here is the gist of it. As visitors must realize, we are blunt here in examining candidates from the prism of Terri's Legacy. In this case we applaud Mitt Romney for taking the step he took.

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.............................Given that the Presidential candidates are repeatedly asked to comment on the circumstances and outcome of Terri Schiavo's case, Mr. Schindler sent a letter to every candidate requesting a meeting to discuss the implications of Terri's case on the right to life of people living with disabilities.  Presently, Governor Romney is the only candidate to accept the invitation for a meeting.  (Read letter here)

 

The meeting had a two-fold purpose:

 

First, to discuss the media's distortions of Terri's actual medical condition and the dangers that this misinformation poses to our country today.

 

Secondly, to specifically address the plight of people with disabilities who are gravely concerned about being denied basic medical care, particularly after Terri's court-ordered death by dehydration and starvation.

 

Mr. Schindler asked Governor Romney to commit to standing behind the tens of thousands of people with disabilities in America who fear that they may be among those denied food and water against their will simply because someone may deem their life "unworthy of living." 

 Mr. Schindler is grateful to Governor Romney for taking the time to meet with him.  He is hopeful that each Presidential candidate will contact him to arrange similar meetings in the near future. 

Terri Schiavo's Brother Meets with Governor Mitt Romney Prior to Wednesday's Presidential Debate

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158 posted on 12/22/2007 3:03:28 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Should the Obama Nation ever be upon us...

Thread by wagglebee.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Democratic candidates Barack Obama and John Edwards touted their pro-abortion positions in a candidate questionnaire presented to them by RH Reality Check, a web site for hard-core pro-abortion activists. They and second-tier candidate Chris Dodd were the only Democrats seeking the presidency to respond.

Obama's campaign staff answered the questionnaire for the Illinois senator and said "Throughout his career, Senator Obama has consistently championed [abortion.]"......................

Barack Obama, John Edwards Tout Pro-Abortion Positions in New Survey

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159 posted on 12/22/2007 3:09:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Indiana Bones...

Thread by wagglebee on a landmark for the death lovers:

We observed a dubious centennial this year. In 1907, Indiana became the first state in America to pass a eugenics law.

Eugenics is the study of the hereditary improvement of the human race by controlled, selective breeding. The word derives from its Latin components eu meaning well or good and genics meaning born or birth.� Eugenics, then, seeks the products of "good birth"� or being "well born"(better human beings or a better human race) through selective breeding...............

Hoosier eugenics: a horrible centennial

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160 posted on 12/22/2007 3:15:17 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; Sun; wagglebee; BykrBayb
Too bad somebody never gets the chance to ask the dem candidates if they really don't know that's a baby in there.

If they were ever asked, they would hem and haw. Saying it's not is not supported by evidence (you know it's only true to libs if it's about global warming?)

There's no yes or no to that question, baby or not? It's a baby, dumb dems! Maybe if there was a profit motive for life instead of for the mills who fund their campaigns.

Champions of killing is what Obama, et al really are.

161 posted on 12/22/2007 2:06:53 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Yeah, but RTL picked Thompson who said on Meet the Press he "would pull (Terri's) feeding tube. (MTP edited their on line transcript but my ears didn't deceive me.)

How can you be anti-abortion and pro-euthanasia like so many gop candidates are?

It is absurd. They have all claimed to be anti-abortion and pro-euthanasia. )EXCEPT for Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, Sam Brownback.

Vote for the anti-abort/pro-euthanasia candidates. For and against life in the same candidates. Absurd.

Rudy's pro-abort and pro-euthanasia. I can't support that.

162 posted on 12/22/2007 2:12:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Is Jamie Lynn Spears having a baby or not? Maybe if the dems are given a real example from the news to ponder.


163 posted on 12/22/2007 2:16:02 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: All; floriduh voter

It is a light news day, the only items being inane drivel from the lefties...

Our thoughts now are on Christmas.

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164 posted on 12/23/2007 3:01:52 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Haleigh Poutre related, DSS watch...

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A Peabody mom is charged with murdering her baby girl who had been returned to her care after the Department of Social Services twice took custody of the child last year.

Jennifer Ward was arrested Friday in Kennebunkport, Maine, where she is being held on fugitive from justice charges, after an Essex County Superior Court indicted the mother for shaking her baby to death, said Steve O’Connell, spokesman for Essex County District Attorney Jon Blodgett.

~Snip~

After the mother again worked with DSS, the child was returned for a second time. DSS refused last night to say what date they returned Jocelyn the second and final time, only that it was months before her death.

“We’re not discussing specifics,” said Nangle, who refused to say why the agency wouldn’t release the information. “It is what it is.”

DSS has come under withering fire in recent years for bungling a string of child abuse cases, including those of Dontell Jeffers, a 4-year-old who was beaten to death while in foster care; Haleigh Poutre, an abused and brain damaged girl who made a stunning recovery as the agency prepared to remove her from life support; and Rebecca Riley, 4, who died of a prescription drug overdose, though the family had numerous visits from a DSS case worker................

Mom charged with killing baby... DSS had taken girl into state custody two times

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165 posted on 12/24/2007 2:15:28 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This just in from USA Today, an article on faith and voting...

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With a bevy of candidates on both sides, serious-minded voters understandably seek to get beyond dollar-driven celebrity glitz and pandering punditry. It turns out, the same folks who brought us Christmas are happy to provide what amount to shopper's guides.

~Snip~

Ever since the Moral Majority rose to prominence during the Reagan years, Christian churches in the USA have produced an array of voters' guides for the politically perplexed. Like those produced by advocacy groups ranging from the National Rifle Association to Planned Parenthood to Sierra Club, these guides often present documented and well-reasoned perspectives on issues voters should consider when choosing to support a particular candidate or party.

~Snip~

Voters' guides also abound in Roman Catholic circles. "Voting with a Clear Conscience" by priestsforlife.org's Father Frank Pavone is a good example. He gained national prominence as the spiritual adviser to Terri Schiavo's parents and argues that when it comes to abortion and euthanasia, it's a matter of choosing between God and government. Then there's the group Catholics in Alliance's "Voting for the Common Good," which urges a nuanced interpretation of Catholic ethics, which might admit reproductive choice or assisted suicide under the umbrella of the greater social good......................

God enters the voting booth

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166 posted on 12/24/2007 2:39:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; All

Plenty of specials on tv. Merry Christmas to all good freepers and you know who you are... floriduh voter


167 posted on 12/24/2007 11:07:58 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
On this blessed day for fellow Christians, the Catholic faith of Terri and her family...

Luke 2:


15  And it came to pass, after the angels departed from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another: Let us go over to Bethlehem and let us see this word that is come to pass, which the Lord hath shewed to us.
16  And they came with haste: and they found Mary and Joseph, and the infant lying in the manger.
17  And seeing, they understood of the word that had been spoken to them concerning this child.
18  And all that heard wondered: and at those things that were told them by the shepherds.
19  But Mary kept all these words, pondering them in her heart.
20  And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.


168 posted on 12/25/2007 4:55:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Haleigh Poutre on this Holy day:

Haleigh, may this day be blessed for you, and may joy come into your life...

The drama continues around her even on this day.

SPRINGFIELD - Documents released yesterday in the Hampden Superior Court child-abuse case against Jason D. Strickland refer to his former lawyer's claims of judicial bias, friction between himself and the judge, both of whom have since withdrawn from the case, and allegations that lies were told regarding the medical condition of the victim...............

Records allege court conflict

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169 posted on 12/25/2007 5:04:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Helen Valois writes for RenewAmerica...

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Scratch the surface of Alan Keyes' record on any issue, and you will find down deep the same thing you thought you were dealing with in the first place. What you see and hear is what you get.

There is a Republican candidate for president who has promised to issue an executive order protecting the unborn within five minutes of taking office, but does National Right to Life endorse him? No. They choose a figment of the mainstream media who wants to send the "issue" back to the states, and who doesn't believe that Congress should have intervened in defense of Terri Schindler-Schiavo — after having to be reminded what that case was all about — instead.

This entire dynamic is summed up, it seems, in the voluntary sidelining of Dr. Dobson, who indicated a while back that he will not vote at all, or will vote third party, if no suitable Republican candidate emerges. The only problem is that that candidate emerged in mid-September, when Alan Keyes announced that he is officially running. Why are our guys apparently accepting in theory, and acting on in their campaign alignments, the liberal media's premise that there is "no one" for us "to vote for" this time around?...........

Compromise, industrial strength

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170 posted on 12/25/2007 5:11:58 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

Merry CHRISTmas to my pro-life friends!


171 posted on 12/25/2007 6:47:20 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Haleigh Poutre update...

In this season as we wish hope and joy, a little light shines.

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Haleigh Poutre of Westfield was 11 years old when her photograph appeared almost daily in this newspaper accompanying stories about her abuse and the failure of the state to protect her.

She is smiling.

That smile was in stark contrast to the details of the alleged abuse contained within the news stories reporting on her case.

A commission appointed to investigate her case concluded that she was a victim of "systemic failure on all levels, public and private."

"What happened to Haleigh Poutre ... should not have happened and did not have to happen," the report said.

Poutre was admitted to a hospital on Sept. 11, 2005, and the report investigating her case was released on March 21, 2006.

Today, as the calendar nears 2008, there still have been no significant reforms or changes in child-care protective services in Massachusetts in the wake of the Haleigh Poutre case.

For that reason, the decision by Gov. Deval L. Patrick to create the state's first Office of the Child Advocate is welcome news.

Children such as Poutre will now have an advocate, an independent and unbiased voice to keep track of their cases and advise the governor whenever there is a tear in the safety net so that it can be fixed.

These children need an adult who will not fail them, as so many have in their young lives.

The office will have none of the authority given child advocates in other states, such as the power to issue subpoenas and hold public hearings.

Girl with big smile should spark change

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172 posted on 12/26/2007 4:57:04 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
A new case...

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Sixteen-year-old Javona Peters sat up in bed at Montefiore Medical Center the morning of Oct. 17, smiling and chatting, ready for her operation.

"I want to come out of there the same way I'm going in," the bubbly high school junior teased her doctor.

"Don't worry, you will," the surgeon replied.

A few hours later, Javona was without most of her brain function - forever blind, deaf, unable to move, talk, think or eat on her own.

Her heart still beats and she can breathe with assistance, but she is in a persistent vegetative state, much like Terri Schiavo or, a generation ago, Karen Ann Quinlan.

And now - like them - she is the subject of an impending court battle, one that will pit father against mother over whether to let their daughter die................

Kin battle over daughter's life support

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173 posted on 12/26/2007 5:10:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Haleigh Poutre is smiling. Healing takes time but don't tell that to the intl harvesters. Bless her.

FYI: As mentioned here before, coma and pvs patients are RECOVERING after Ambien. What a shame Terri had no chance to try a new drug like Ambien but she was already alert and aware. She just needed competent care instead of the bad guys always working to kill her.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com and www.michaelschiavo.org

174 posted on 12/26/2007 9:24:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Sun
Merry Christmas! Our weather is too nice. I feel guilty.

Not.

175 posted on 12/26/2007 9:26:01 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Prayers for Javona. Prayers for John Graziano. Doctors are too quick to rush to judgment but why? They get paid either way. It's all about where they recvd their training. If it was Royal Darwin Hospital, forget about it!

Miracles do happen.

176 posted on 12/26/2007 9:28:49 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: floriduh voter

But our snow is BEAUTIFUL! :)


177 posted on 12/26/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: floriduh voter

I heard Rush Limbaugh’s guest host today lump Charlie Crist with NONconservative Republicans, like Gov. Arnold, et al.


178 posted on 12/26/2007 11:35:27 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun

Rush is in a battle royale with Huckabee today too. Huckabee cannot control his campaign operatives, similar to Hilary’s shortcomings. The Limbaugh-Huckabee is just heating up. Go, Rush. Huckabee always seems to be hiding something. It’s just an impression he gives off.


179 posted on 12/26/2007 12:26:31 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Sun

Crist is another Ahnold without the big biceps. The dems like Crist though, they go for bachelor, playboy types who kick Jeb’s staffers around or out of a job. He and Jebbie do not see eye to eye. Neither does Spkr Rubio and Crist. In a new race, Rubio would beat Crist. Rubio would get the Hispanic vote cuz he’s a Cuban conservative. (kind of a new designation: Cuban conservative.) You heard it here first by FV before the pundits with radio and tv deals use it. Thank me. lol


180 posted on 12/26/2007 12:30:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser
TASING CHRISTMAS SHOPPERS IN WISCONSIN. (I am anti-tase). People are getting scared, hurt and killed.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59382

181 posted on 12/26/2007 12:49:57 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: floriduh voter

“Crist is another Ahnold without the big biceps.”

lol, and thanks for the updates.


182 posted on 12/26/2007 5:33:55 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Father is wavering...

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The emotionally shaken father of a 16-year-old girl in an irreversible coma at Montefiore Medical Center is wavering in his opposition to ending what's left of her life.

"I'm 85% changed in my mind now, but I don't know the legality," said Leonard Peters, whose daughter Javona Peters is in a permanent vegetative state after what was supposed to be a routine operation on Oct. 17.

"I've got to think about it. I've got to talk to my lawyer," he said, a day after the Daily News reported on the teen's condition. "I mean, if nothing is working for Javona, I don't see the point now."

Until Wednesday, Peters opposed pulling the plug. "I don't give life and I cannot take a life," he told The News last week.

Javona's mother, Janet Joseph, has said she wants "to let Javona go in peace" by taking her off her feeding tube. The case is set for a Jan. 7 hearing in Bronx Supreme Court.

The case, first disclosed Wednesday in The News, has attracted national media attention to what could be another right-to-life battle, as in the Terri Schiavo case.........................................

Javona's dad wavers on pulling plug

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183 posted on 12/27/2007 3:11:17 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary
Some may not like this appointee of George W. Bush and his approach to the Judiciary as the true rulers of America. His approach lauds such characters as Greer and Whittemore. I don't.

............."Ann Coulter said that I was a 'hack,' and the worst judicial selection Bush made since he nominated Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court."

Jones said, "It is alarming to me that the public is being fed this kind of misinformation about the role of the judiciary. Judges should not rule on the basis of who their political benefactors were or are, but on the basis of the law." He added that the increased vitriolic attacks on judges for their rulings, such as when former Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas threatened to "hold federal judges accountable for their rulings" could have a chilling effect.

Jones added that many judges at various levels in the case of Terri Schiavo ruled on the basis of family law, rather than the political approach taken by the U.S. Senate which intervened to make it a federal case. "State courts usuallly decide family law cases. After Terri Schiavo died after her feeding tube was removed, Tom DeLay issued his warning that judges would be held accountable for their rulings." ................

Judge explains 'intelligent design' ruling

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184 posted on 12/27/2007 3:22:04 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
We all need to pinch ourselves because Bill Press sez we are dead. I could feel my blood pressure climbing as I scanned this piece, but found myself laughing instead at the dim logic and leftie lies oozing from the keyboard of this marionette. As we know from these lefties the opposite of what they say is what actually is and what they fear, so maybe we aren't all dead after all, maybe more alive than their night terrors can fathom. He fears Terri! Heh heh.

..........The religious right is dead. It will never again exercise the political clout it once had — which is bad news for Republicans, but good news for the republic.

While in the long term, some moderate Republicans might welcome relief from having to genuflect in front of the pro-life movement and Terri Schiavo, the short-term political impact for the Republican Party is a disaster.......

Religious right is dead

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185 posted on 12/27/2007 3:35:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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All time most eulogized...

"One of the most striking aspects of the lists is that they blend the slightly gossipy appeal of guest books for celebrities with the very personal, almost religious and familial aspect of remembering more ordinary people," said Professor Toby Miller, chair of media and cultural studies at the University of California, Riverside, who reviewed the lists at the request of Legacy.com. "The Guest Books commemorate the famous, but also make renowned the suffering of those who aren't famous."

Labeled the "granddaddy" of online obituary and memorialization sites by MarketWatch, Legacy.com hosts obituaries and memorials for more than 60 percent of the people who die in the United States and attracts more than 10 million unique visitors each month.

~Snip~

20. Terri Schiavo, brain-damaged young woman who became the center of the country's right to die debate

What Do Anna Nicole Smith and Jerry Falwell Have in Common . . . at Year-end?

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186 posted on 12/27/2007 3:42:37 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Nick Danger; floriduh voter; Interesting Times
NautiNurse is out of surgery and in need of prayers...

See post #129.

Prayer Request for NautiNurse [Update at #129]

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187 posted on 12/27/2007 3:54:38 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Alouette; TheSarce; wagglebee
Telling words from an equivocator in this thread by Alouette. Thanks to TheSarce, wagglebee, and narses for the ping.

.........And still, as a woman and a mother, I must reject the religious hypocrisy and politically correct attitude of the religious social discourse, and declare that I am in favor of abortions. I support the right of a woman (or parents) to decide to end the pregnancy because she feels it is impossible for her to proceed with it.

When a woman says “I cannot raise this child” I believe her, and I do not wish to force her (or that child) to embark on a life of distress of one type or another..........

Abortion is murder, but… [It's all about me!]

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188 posted on 12/27/2007 4:03:43 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Religious right is dead

Didn't the media declare conservatism "dead" when Barry Goldwater (who some call the "father of conservatism" even though he never really was a true conservatism) lost to LBJ? And then didn't the media say that conservatism was REALLY "dead" when Ford beat Reagan for the GOP nomination in 1976? This is just another variation on that same theme. The left will always minimize and marginalize the importance and influence of what they fear the most.

189 posted on 12/27/2007 5:04:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; bjs1779; Sun
Javona's mother, Janet Joseph, has said she wants "to let Javona go in peace" by taking her off her feeding tube.

I guess she has bought into the whole forced dehydration and starvation is "beautiful and euphoric" line of BS. Perhaps she should talk to come concentration camp or gulag survivors about their experiences with it, or just try not eating or drinking anything for a couple of days and see how she feels.

What pisses me off is that the culture of death has duped so many people into believing that starvation and dehydration is acceptable when a modicum of common sense screams otherwise.

190 posted on 12/27/2007 5:09:21 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: floriduh voter
Prayers for Haleigh.

This is what Greer and Michael feared - a new drug. No wonder they were in such a frenzy to get her killed with the pathetic Jeb Bush wringing his hands.

191 posted on 12/27/2007 9:33:45 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
What a twist that Ambien was developed as a drug for people with sleep disorders and it's waking people up.

The coward serves on boards now but he will never serve you or me again. I threw out so much memorabilia for that family you have no idea. Paper items I crushed them and stomped on them. If people aren't my friends any more because I'm no longer a Bushbot, so be it.

192 posted on 12/27/2007 3:55:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Doesn't anyone get second opinions any more? It seems like Javona's mom was vulnerable to the doctor's will and agenda. Dad is likely tired and thinking too far into the future. It's not hard to fight for someone while there's still time but it sure as shooting is impossible to bring them back once they've suffered and died.

(the feloser is behind on his 2nd book. Things aren't working out as he planned...apparently the world didn't follow the pied piper of starvation and dehydration).

193 posted on 12/27/2007 3:59:41 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Terri’s movement against euthanasia is a global one. I guess in Bill Press’ world, the earth is dead.


194 posted on 12/27/2007 4:01:36 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: wagglebee

So, Bill Press is now in charge of defining religion? Since when do we believe the liberal, far left pundits who are rotten to the core?


195 posted on 12/27/2007 4:03:44 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Javona update...

Her life is in the hands of a judge.

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The medical staff at Montefiore Hospital offered an explanation for the unexpected consequences of the “routine” operation. Apparently Javona suffered an allergic reaction to the anesthetic, which ended up provoking an oxygen insufficiency. The 90 minutes surgical intervention was performed by Dr. James Goodrich, who was aware of the girl’s condition, as he had previously met his young patient when she was only 3 years old.

What came as a tremendous shock for her parents turned into a legal fight weeks after the tragedy. The Bronx Supreme Court is set to rule a decision on January 7 on whether to take off Javona’s life support or not. The matter turned to the court of law as the two are not married and want different things for their daughter. While the mother, Janet Joseph, fights for full custody in order to potentially terminate her daughter’s vegetative state, the father, Leonard Peters fights for his daughter’s life.

In a ABCNEWS.com interview, Peters said: “When you see your kid go into the hospital, and then find out that she can’t talk or move, it is not a good feeling. […] It is not up to me to decide who lives and who dies. I don’t give life and I don’t take it away.”

~Snip~

This is not the first case when a family dispute reaches court, implying the right to decide someone’s fate. Terri Schiavo’s case became known when a Florida court granted her husband the right to remove her life support after seven years of legal disputes with Terri’s family. The case is a bit different if we take into account the age of the patient and the circumstances, but that still remains to be decided. The hearings are set for January 7, 2008.

Who Decides Her Fate? Comatose Daughter Case Goes To Court

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196 posted on 12/28/2007 4:09:07 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Javona again...

From Fox News: The father is wavering. Who will advocate for this poor kid?

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A 16-year old girl in an irreversible coma at Montefiore Medical Center in New York City is at the center of an emotional court case. The teen's mother told the NY Daily News that she wants to take her daughter off all life-supporting machines. At first the teen's father said he would fight that decision.

But now Leonard Peters is wavering in his opposition.

Click here to read the full story

"I'm 85 percent changed in my mind now, but I don't know the legality," said Peters.

16-year-old Javona Peters was a healthy high school junior until she went into the operating room on Oct. 17. Now she is in a permanent vegetative state — blind, deaf, and unable to move, think or eat on her own.

The case is set for a Jan. 7 hearing in Bronx Supreme Court.

Parents Debate Whether to Pull Plug on Comatose Daughter

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197 posted on 12/28/2007 4:15:44 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Here comes a vitriolic outpouring of rage from an American who hails from the Religion of Peace. In his claims to be patriotic, he spews every mantra from the far left he can fit into his keyboard in a pattern carefully disjointed from reason, and in it he lumps Terri.

..........We could go on and on from here. This administration and the movement it fronts at least gets high marks for consistency. Everything they touch turns to stone. There’s Pat Tillman and Terri Schiavo. There’s the politicization of the US Attorneys and the corruption of DeLay and Abramoff. There’s North Korea, Pakistan and the Middle East. There’s the shame of torture and rendition. There’s the wrecking of the American military and of the country’s reputation abroad. There’s Afghanistan and the failure to capture bin Laden. And much, much more. But above all, and driving all, there’s the kleptocracy – the doing of everything in every way to facilitate the looting of the national fisc.We could go on and on from here. This administration and the movement it fronts at least gets high marks for consistency. Everything they touch turns to stone. There’s Pat Tillman and Terri Schiavo. There’s the politicization of the US Attorneys and the corruption of DeLay and Abramoff. There’s North Korea, Pakistan and the Middle East. There’s the shame of torture and rendition. There’s the wrecking of the American military and of the country’s reputation abroad. There’s Afghanistan and the failure to capture bin Laden. And much, much more. But above all, and driving all, there’s the kleptocracy – the doing of everything in every way to facilitate the looting of the national fisc.................

You’re Damn Right I’m Angry - Why Isn’t Everybody?

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198 posted on 12/28/2007 4:28:25 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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At least he loathes himself, with my apologies to his father for noting this observation...

"I'm a self-loathing Republican. We've gone from being a party of confidence and fiscal restraint and individual liberty to being the party that encouraged intervention in Terry Schiavo's case, this disastrous experience in Iraq, Katrina, and an $8.5 trillion debt. It was hogs feeding at the trough from Jack Abramoff to Karl Rove. I'm just sad and angry." — Christopher Buckley, Men's Vogue.

A few thought-provoking quotes of 2007

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199 posted on 12/28/2007 4:37:35 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Carrie K. Hutchens in The Dakota Voice...

I just took a poll of the people around me and it was unanimous -- no votes for Hillary! What makes any other poll fairer or more unfair than the one I just conducted?

There was a time when I respected polling and thought there was some positive benefit to conducting them and studying the results. I suppose that was when companies, candidates and others truly wanted to know what the people thought. It was before the rigged questions with answers that were likely to get a specific (and determined) end result. It was before the rigged polls were used to sway public opinion. After all, there are some people who go with the numbers, rather than deciding for self. And, by wording the questions just so... one can often plant other false information in the minds of unwitting people. The Terri Schiavo case comes to mind.

The first poll I saw regarding Terri Schiavo was asking if one thought she should be taken off life-support, as though she were on a ventilator or other such machines. It sounded as though they were all that were keeping her alive, but that was certainly not the case. However, all these many years later, there are still those people who are positive that Terri was brain dead and merely kept alive by machines breathing for her and to keep her heart pumping. The false message was planted and it stuck. Stuck so much so that no amount of proof to the contrary seems to have any affect on their belief. Amazing!...................

Poll Just Out: Hillary Clinton at the Bottom of the Heap

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200 posted on 12/28/2007 4:43:46 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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