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To: neverdem
JAMES WATSON, the 1962 Nobel laureate, recently asserted that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” and its citizens because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really.”

This is a stupid article about a stupid misconception.

First, James Watson is himself completely wrong - the social policies that have been tried are all based in one form or another of socialism - which doesn't work, anywhere on the planet.

Second, economic freedom, rooted in the protection of private property rights, has never been tried in Africa, due to the remnants of tribal culture - note that I say "culture", not intelligence, that still prevails there. Blacks are doing quite well anywhere the British or South African culture replaced the existing tribal culture.

Third, that there are in fact differences between the races is more than obvious - the fact that Africans from a certain part of Africa win all the marathons they care to enter being the easiest to demonstrate. However, my belief, and I think experience shows, that freedom and free enterprise work among every race.

5 posted on 12/10/2007 9:19:00 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka

An excellent response to this piece of total garbage by Nisbett. (Nisbett is one of my heroes by the way, just not today).

You have hit the nail on the head. The proof is in the results not the race of the cook. Social policies don’t fail because there is some hereditary IQ difference somewhere.

Nisbett is playing a favorite American Psychological Association game, in which a chosen APA heavy-hitter points out the obvious point that intelligence and skin color are not genetically linked. That’s a good enough point in its way, but not what Watson was saying at all.

Watson seems to me to have said that Africans have somewhat lower IQ according to some measure of central tendency. Some Africans are black, of course, but Watson didn’t say that Africans had lower IQ because they were black, nor did Herrnstein.

We find out whether or not Africans have a somewhat lower IQ by gathering IQ data. If they do, they do. The causal connection between skin color and IQ requires a different sort of proof than mere IQ data; it is an inherently suspect hypothesis anyway because of prior genetic research; and it is a racist hypothesis. However, rejection of the skin color-IQ link does not mean that IQ does not differ by continent or country or city or neighborhood. It probably does. Many other characteristics do.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 10:23:55 PM PST by VaFarmer
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To: ikka

However, my belief, and I think experience shows, that freedom and free enterprise work among every race.


I think this is proven by how hard African immigrants work and how often they succeed when they move to the U.S.


11 posted on 12/10/2007 11:58:43 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ikka
Africans from a certain part of Africa win all the marathons they care to enter

I remember hearing once, sometime within the last 10 years, that of the 125 fastest people in the world (track events), something like 80% or more had genetic roots in West Africa.

However, my belief, and I think experience shows, that freedom and free enterprise work among every race.

Freedom is a wonderful thing, and gives everyone the opportunity to compete and do well in whatever they're best at, whether it's financial, physical, or social. Let freedom ring.

20 posted on 12/11/2007 3:39:23 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: ikka

Great response!

If IQ were all that matters, why are the world’s top universities full of ideology-addled death eaters?


24 posted on 12/11/2007 5:11:36 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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