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40 per cent of smokers mentally ill
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 12/11/07 | Tamara McLean

Posted on 12/10/2007 11:22:10 PM PST by LibWhacker

PEOPLE with mental illness are three times more likely to smoke, and experts say not enough is being done to help this vulnerable group quit.

A new Access Economics report shows almost 1.3 million Australians with a mental illness are smokers, costing $33 billion a year.

SANE Australia, which commissioned the report, is calling for urgent action to introduce quit smoking programs and supports for people with a mental illness.

Executive director Barbara Hocking said smokers with a mental illness paid about $2.8 billion every year in tobacco taxes, but there was little evidence of equitable funding and few programs to help the large numbers who wanted to quit.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ill; mentally; smokers

1 posted on 12/10/2007 11:22:11 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

In other news, 100 percent of liberals are mentally ill.


2 posted on 12/10/2007 11:25:54 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: LibWhacker

Bad title. From the article it is 40% of mentally ill are smokers.


3 posted on 12/10/2007 11:28:06 PM PST by microgood
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To: LibWhacker
So if smokers are forced to quit through taxation and legislation, fourty percent of them could become dangerous as they transition through that grumppy stage of withdrawel?

Sounds risky to me.

4 posted on 12/10/2007 11:29:14 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: LibWhacker
PEOPLE with mental illness are three times more likely to smoke, and experts say not enough is being done to help this vulnerable group quit.

What stupidity. The people with mental illness may be self medicating. Certainly that the anti-depressant Zyban / Wellbutrin has a side effect that some people treated with it stop smoking has to indicate that possibility. Not to mention that if they have metal health issues help with that immediate concern is more important than help with quiting smoking.
5 posted on 12/10/2007 11:29:43 PM PST by JLS
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To: microgood

Right. :)


6 posted on 12/10/2007 11:32:03 PM PST by WildcatClan (Vote Hunter for President)
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To: LibWhacker

I think all smokers should immediately quit. That will make basket cases out of the government.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 11:32:06 PM PST by TheLion
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not sure that taking the MI’s smokes away is a good idea.


8 posted on 12/10/2007 11:34:57 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: LibWhacker

So there’s a 40% chance Obama is nuts?


9 posted on 12/10/2007 11:35:59 PM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Sapper26

LOL...that struck me funny!


10 posted on 12/10/2007 11:40:20 PM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: LibWhacker

I only light up when the voices tell me to.


11 posted on 12/10/2007 11:41:42 PM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

Just realized... If smokers quit, that’ll lead directly to an increase in insanity amongst non-smokers! Why would libs want that? ;-)


12 posted on 12/10/2007 11:47:03 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: LibWhacker

13 posted on 12/10/2007 11:50:30 PM PST by iowamark
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To: LibWhacker

Cancer and schizophrenia linked

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cancer_and_schizophrenia_linked/articleshow/2608497.cms

WASHINGTON: A series of studies have revealed that there is a genetic link between schizophrenia and cancer.

Schizophrenia is a biological condition that affects a person’s ability to think clearly, distinguish reality from fantasy, to manage emotions, make decisions and relate to others.

The studies, led by Dr. Daniel Weinberger of National Institute for Mental Health (NIMH), and American College of Neuropsychopharmacology (ACNP) member, provide a possible scientific explanation for lower rates of cancer among patients with schizophrenia, despite having poor diets and high rates of smoking, and their parents.

Researchers emphasised that many of the genes associated with schizophrenia were the same as the genes associated with cancer, but that the cells that had these genes used them in opposite ways in the two disorders.

While cancer results from changes in the genes that cause cells to go into metabolic overdrive and multiply rapidly, those same genes cause cells in schizophrenia to slow to a crawl.

“We found that many of the same genes are involved in schizophrenia as in cancer, but in a yin and yang way. This will provide critical insight into the molecular structure of schizophrenia,” said Weinberger.

Some of the genes showing this yin-yang effect include NRG1, AKT1, PIK3, COMT, PRODH and ErbB4. While these genes can’t be used to predict exactly who will develop these diseases, Weinberger said that they could be used to help determine risk.

Dr. Amanda Law of the University of Oxford, who heads one of the teams working at the NIMH, explored specific genetic pathways that cells use to make basic decisions about their development and their fate.

“This is about basic decision making by cells—whether to multiply, move or change their basic architecture,” said Law.

“Cancer and schizophrenia may be strange bedfellows that have similarities at the molecular level. The differences lie in how cells respond to external stimuli: in cancer the molecular system functions to speed up the cell and in schizophrenia the system is altered in such a way that causes the cell to slow down,” Law added.

She said that selective targeting of these pathways might be a potential target in developing treatments for schizophrenia.

“It’s very curious that a brain disorder associated with very complicated human behaviour has at a genetic and cellular level a striking overlap with cancer, a very non-behaviour related disorder. Understanding these pathways might provide us with some new strategies for thinking about cancer,” said Weinberger.

Weinberger said that future research involves using this information to search for therapeutic insights that can reverse these processes, with implications not only for treatment of schizophrenia, but also maybe for cancer as well.

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14 posted on 12/10/2007 11:55:56 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: LibWhacker

At least the MI have an excuse of why they smoke.


15 posted on 12/11/2007 12:01:10 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Aria

Now that I think about it, maybe he’s using Oprah to get to Dr Phil.


16 posted on 12/11/2007 12:03:33 AM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Gabz; SheLion; Diana in Wisconsin
Good morning ping!

You're gonna love this! ;*)

17 posted on 12/11/2007 12:24:57 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: LibWhacker

If they are calling things like anxiety, panic disorder, and phobias as being mentally ill, then I will believe the headline. And as usually you can use statistics to prove anything. Ala the famous pizza connenction in NY


18 posted on 12/11/2007 12:31:29 AM PST by LukeL
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To: rabscuttle385
In other news, 100 percent of liberals are mentally ill.

Your post took me from thoroughly disgusted after wading in to the thread to LMFAOLAF in a millisecond.

19 posted on 12/11/2007 12:32:43 AM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical muslims and illegal immigrants: One group wants to kill U.S and the other invade U.S.)
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To: LibWhacker

Animals can be driven crazy by placing too many
in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily
does this to himself.

LAZARUS LONG


20 posted on 12/11/2007 12:38:06 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: TheLion
I think all smokers should immediately quit. That will make basket cases out of the government.

Alternatively, if the anti-tobacco has its way, the government will make basket cases out of the smokers.

21 posted on 12/11/2007 1:29:44 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Maybe the condition is the result of an auto reaction to fend off cancer, which had not the cancer condition occurred, the mental disease would not have presented?


22 posted on 12/11/2007 1:57:22 AM PST by quickquiver
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To: LibWhacker

A little coming free, national, mental health electroshock never hurt anyone. Matter of fact, it kind of refreshes.

Next, fatties, big block and gun owners.


23 posted on 12/11/2007 3:06:48 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: LibWhacker

40% of journalists can’t write a coherent sentence.


24 posted on 12/11/2007 3:08:39 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Bell curve. Most people pump their own gas, so journalism is a reasonable place for these displaced workers.
25 posted on 12/11/2007 3:13:22 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: LibWhacker
"PEOPLE with mental illness are three times more likely to smoke, and experts say not enough is being done to help this vulnerable group quit."

It could be better stated that weak minds and constitutions run parallel with addiction susceptibility. Smoking, alcoholism, and drug abuse are all symptoms of an inability to just say 'NO'.

26 posted on 12/11/2007 3:19:38 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: LibWhacker

On a Freeper Cruise out of Miami back in 2002, I was suprised to see that at least 50% of us were smokers. Does this mean that Freepers who go on cruises have a higher chance of being a smoker than those who just stay behind their keyboards? :)


27 posted on 12/11/2007 3:21:41 AM PST by moonman
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To: TheLion
It sure would kill the welfare state!

Why?

1. The smokers are ripped a new one by the taxes they're paying. Smokers quit? Government loses (que Carl Sagan voice:) "Billions and Billions" of ill-gotten and ill-spent tax revenues.

2. Heavy smokers even save the health care system tremendous dough. Why? Because they die off early, and fairly quickly, of lung cancer or heart disease. Ergo, less of that expensive long-term elderly care.

28 posted on 12/11/2007 6:08:15 AM PST by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: LibWhacker

I had to check the source. Sure as shootin’, that’s how they had the headline.


29 posted on 12/11/2007 6:13:35 AM PST by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: JLS

They are also using current statistics to come up with their conclusions. Societal disdain, being told the medical reasons, price and inconvenience have made many, many people quit smoking. I would expect that a few of those things make no difference to the mentally ill.

I just looked and in 1965 47% of the US population smoked. So if that was average everywhere and now ONLY 40% of the mentally ill smoke, on average, 7% have been affected by price, fear and peer pressure.


30 posted on 12/11/2007 6:26:40 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Cementjungle

That’s funny.


31 posted on 12/11/2007 6:27:44 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: LibWhacker
I guess it depends on how you define "mental illness".

Might be possible that they would define "mental illness" as anyone that smokes.

It's BS but some people will believe anything.

32 posted on 12/11/2007 6:34:57 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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