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Minuteman Project Founder Endorses Mike Huckabee
Fox News ^ | 12/11/07 | staff

Posted on 12/11/2007 10:30:06 AM PST by pissant

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To: mnehrling
Like George S Patton endorsing Ron Paul

Maybe he does. Did anyone check how he voted in 2004?

101 posted on 12/11/2007 11:49:25 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Callahan

Bush was a mistake foisted upon us by the elites and media 9 years ago. Many conservatives learned from the repeated failures and lunacy of the Bush administration.


102 posted on 12/11/2007 11:49:43 AM PST by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: Petronski
>>>>>Perhaps Gilchrist is simply an idiot.

You got that right!

103 posted on 12/11/2007 11:50:04 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: pissant

The world is upside down. I agree.

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


104 posted on 12/11/2007 11:50:40 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: pissant

“The world is upside down. This is like the Wayne LaPierre endorsing Rudy.”

Worse. This is like Pat Robertson endorsing Rudy.

Not that one believe that would ever happen, right?


105 posted on 12/11/2007 11:51:30 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: untrained skeptic

But Mitt is still better than Huck. Why not him?


106 posted on 12/11/2007 11:51:47 AM PST by RockinRight (Bill Clinton + Jimmuh Carter + Pat Robertson + Barack Obama + Gomer Pyle = Mike Huckabee)
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To: Reagan Man
Speaking of Gilcrest, what ever became of the lawsuits by those people who gave him $100K to build the fence and Gilcrest spent it on office supplies and such?
107 posted on 12/11/2007 11:52:23 AM PST by mnehring
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To: WOSG
"Worse. This is like Pat Robertson endorsing Rudy."

Nothing was ever worse than that...nothing!

108 posted on 12/11/2007 11:53:12 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: pissant

Makes no sense to me either.

Huckabee’s record on immigration has much to be desired.


109 posted on 12/11/2007 11:54:36 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: Earthdweller

One of these border groups has Bay Buchanan affliated with it...... Don’t remember which one. If it’s this one associated with Gilchrist the next endorsement maybe coming from Bay and Pat....


110 posted on 12/11/2007 11:55:02 AM PST by deport (---22 days Iowa Caucuses--- 27 days New Hampshire vote s--- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: pissant

This is like Jesus endorsing Huckabee.


111 posted on 12/11/2007 11:56:09 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Friends don't let friends vote Huckabee)
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To: pissant

I guess we know the true intentions of the MM Project, don’t we?


112 posted on 12/11/2007 11:56:22 AM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: pissant

Makes no sense to me either.

Huckabee’s record on immigration has much to be desired.


113 posted on 12/11/2007 11:56:30 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: pissant
. . his views on strict illegal immigration laws.

Somebody will need to tell me: what exactly is an illegal law? Only laws that violate the Constitution should be illegal, and most of us (I think) agree that laws should not violate the Constitution, so where's the controversy?

Fox needs a new editor.

114 posted on 12/11/2007 11:57:10 AM PST by logician2u
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


115 posted on 12/11/2007 12:00:52 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: SoCalPol

Look I won’t vote for him in the primary either, but it has to be acknowledged that he has some skill/appeal. Imagine a GWB who was a better off-the-cuff speaker and relatively self-made instead of a silver spoon. That’s what Huckabee has going for him. He has alot of baggage and has no shot whatsoever in the Blue States, but so does Mrs. Clinton and she aint Miss Ohio. Again, we may not like it, but if Huck manages to win the nomination I’m not going to just cry and this thing to Billary.


116 posted on 12/11/2007 12:01:28 PM PST by Callahan
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To: pissant

If this is true then it puts Gilchrist in the phony category for me.


117 posted on 12/11/2007 12:02:02 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Free Vulcan

LOL!...OMG that is funny and close to true here on FR!


118 posted on 12/11/2007 12:02:15 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: pissant
Minuteman Project Founder Endorses Mike Huckabee

Phyllis Schlafly comes out to support the LesBiGay candidate.
119 posted on 12/11/2007 12:04:44 PM PST by aruanan
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To: pissant

Why didn’t he just endorse Hitlery.........


120 posted on 12/11/2007 12:04:56 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Petronski

“Perhaps Gilchrist is simply an idiot.”

Huck’s been fooling more than him along the way, that’s for sure.

Huckabee is slicker than a greased eel.

Huckabee explaining his flip-floppery ...

HUCKABEE: “What changed was I’m running for president.”
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/arizonajohnson/2007/dec/11/what_changed_was_im_running_for_president

Mike Huckabee links:
http://realmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/2007/12/meet-huckster-san-diego-union-tribune.html
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/nov/14/taking-stock-tax-hike-mike/
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/09/tax_hike_mike_1.php


121 posted on 12/11/2007 12:05:28 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: Callahan
He’s a very effective communicator and comes across as the most authentic candidate — not to us, but to people who don’t sit around burning up political chat websites .

I think you're exactly right here and this is largely responsible for his recent surge in popularity.

I'm 100% for Hunter right now and would be happy with Thompson but I've been hearing all about how great they think Huckabee is from people who are nowhere near as intersted as I am in day-to-day political news.

My aunt belongs to a church where they are basically socially conservative socialists and they all love the Huckster there.

I was asked who I was supported by someone generally conservative and so I told him supported Hunter. His response was along the lines of "Hunter would be great but there's no way he's going anywhere." (I said - "If he had a dollar and a vote from everyone who said that.....") I asked who he supported and he said Huckabee because "he's the only one who when he speaks it doesn't seem like he's lying to me."

It's strange because even though I read all of the negative things about him here and I am very wary of his brand of "compassionate conservatism" (shudder) I too am taken in when I hear him speak and can almost believe he's genuine.

marinamuffy

122 posted on 12/11/2007 12:07:50 PM PST by marinamuffy ("..pacifism ensures that cruelty will prevail on earth." - Dennis Prager/ www.gohunter08.com)
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To: moehoward
Why didn’t he just endorse Hitlery.........

This is the kind hysterical stuff I'm talking about.

123 posted on 12/11/2007 12:08:43 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Callahan

“This guy is basically GWB without the blue blood and marble mouth right down to the faith-based decision making.”

I know GWB, GWB is a friend of mine and GWB never:
- foisted huge tax increases as Governor
- freed killers with clemency and parole
- said we had to close Gitmo and stop waterboarding
- was a clueless dolt like Huckabee is on foreign policy (eg NIE report)
- got union endorsements
- bashed big business and called Club for Growth “club for greed” like a populist

Huck is far worse choice than GWB.

“still preferrable to Shrillary or Oprahbama. “
Any Republican is. Alas, Huckabee is #8 out of the 8 candidates in terms of overall conservative bona fides.


124 posted on 12/11/2007 12:09:42 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: Callahan

Huck won get the nomination. While the liberal media is pushing him up, there is enough time for thinking people to see the damage the Huckester can do.

A hick from a town with the enter and leaving sign on the same post and from a state that has less of a population than the county I live in with no backgoung in foreign, national security or military does not belong as Comander in Chief especially when we are at war and will be for a long time to come.


125 posted on 12/11/2007 12:10:21 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Callahan

good analysis.


126 posted on 12/11/2007 12:14:06 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: RockinRight
But Mitt is still better than Huck. Why not him?

I don't know. I really haven't paid a lot of attention to Mitt's stance on illegal immigration, and I don't really trust him to present his stance honestly and stick by what he says.

Not that I trust Rudy or Huck significantly more.

Apparently Gilchrist liked the plan that Huck presented. I guess if you can't trust any of the three you think you have to choose between, you might as well pick the one that at least says what you want to hear, and hope that he does what he thinks voters want him to do after he gets elected.

After all, amnesty for illegal immigrants isn't popular with the general public so there might be some reason to hope that he will follow through with a plan to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws better. I can't say I have much confidence in that, but our current choices (leaders in the polls) are looking awfully bleak.

127 posted on 12/11/2007 12:16:35 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: marinamuffy

“He’s a very effective communicator and comes across as the most authentic candidate — not to us, but to people who don’t sit around burning up political chat websites .”
“I think you’re exactly right here and this is largely responsible for his recent surge in popularity. ...
I asked who he supported and he said Huckabee because “he’s the only one who when he speaks it doesn’t seem like he’s lying to me.””

Egads! The least honest man who does the best impression of integrity on the easily impressionable... Politics is about sincerity, and if you can fake that you’ve got ‘em, I guess. Sadly, it’s exactly this kind of thing that helped Clinton.

Huckabee has changed his positions significantly, has a tax-and-spend record yet makes false claims about being ‘forced’ to raise taxes when he wasn’t. He defends his soft-on-crime pardon record by attacking the messengers.
And his flip-flops on immigration and taxes and other matters are out there, but not picked up because he’s “genuine”.

POWERS: “And another issue that’s come up is that you had previously been lobbying President Bush to lift the embargo on Cuba. And then in a recent debate said the opposite. What changed?”

HUCKABEE: “What changed was I’m running for president.”

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/arizonajohnson/2007/dec/11/what_changed_was_im_running_for_president


128 posted on 12/11/2007 12:19:39 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: untrained skeptic

” I don’t know. I really haven’t paid a lot of attention to Mitt’s stance on illegal immigration, and I don’t really trust him to present his stance honestly and stick by what he says.

Not that I trust Rudy or Huck significantly more. “

Of the 3, Mitt Romney is by FAR the most genuine, has the highest integrity, is the most accomplished, is the most trustworthy, and is the most conservative.

Just because Huck talks a good talk doesn’t make this tax-and-spender a real conservative. Huckabee’s record is one of a tax-and-spend liberal.

http://redstate.com/blogs/perico/2007/nov/29/is_this_the_slow_and_painful_death_of_the_republican_party_as_we_know_it#comment-576559

“One of the governor’s biggest weaknesses is his record in Arkansas. While Huckabee did cut taxes during the early years of his tenure, the fact remains that he had a net tax increase under his watch, and the increase in Government size is terrifying. 21 tax increases went into effect, increasing tax revenue by almost $890 million under Governor Huckabee. These increases include the income tax, the sales tax, a cigarette tax, and a gas tax. Not only did he raise taxes, spending “more than doubled under Huckabee. “During Huckabee’s 10 years as governor, state spending more than doubled, from $6.6 billion to $16.1 billion in the fiscal year ending June 30, 2006.” There was an increase in state spending of over 65% during his tenure, and the size of the government increased by 20%. According to the Americans for Tax Reform, the states general obligation debt went up by “almost one billion dollars.” Arkansas state tax burden was at 9.8% when Bill Clinton left office in 1992. Under Huckabee, it was at 11.1%, reaching the rank of one of the top fifteen state tax burdens.”


129 posted on 12/11/2007 12:24:32 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: WOSG
GWB never:
- foisted huge tax increases as Governor
- freed killers with clemency and parole
- said we had to close Gitmo and stop waterboarding
- was a clueless dolt like Huckabee is on foreign policy (eg NIE report)
- got union endorsements
- bashed big business and called Club for Growth “club for greed” like a populist
BTTT
130 posted on 12/11/2007 12:28:48 PM PST by eastsider (There's a Hucker born every minute.)
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To: untrained skeptic

“Apparently Gilchrist liked the plan that Huck presented. “

Mitt Romney’s entire campaign platform and plan is 100% Ronald Reagan - family values, strong military, fiscal conservativism. If we went by the best plans and the best campaign, Mitt should be a shoo-in.

Mitt gets dinged because he ran squishy on a few social issues to get elected in Massachusetts. Yet, as Governor, Mitt Romney was a more conservative Governor in Massachusetts than Mike Huckabee was in Arkansas, especially on fiscal issues. Mitt was *consistently* against in-state tuition for illegal aliens , while Mike Huckabee has flip-flopped and shaded his position, for it in Arkansas and now pretending its would be different at Federal level (it is not).


131 posted on 12/11/2007 12:28:49 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: deport
If it’s this one associated with Gilchrist the next endorsement maybe coming from Bay and Pat..

You are expecting Tom Tancredo's CAMPAIGN MANAGER to endorse Huckleberry?

132 posted on 12/11/2007 12:30:23 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: SoCalPol

“A hick from a town with the enter and leaving sign on the same post and from a state that has less of a population than the county I live in with no backgoung in foreign, national security or military does not belong as Comander in Chief especially when we are at war and will be for a long time to come.”

True, and Huckster will never be President (ie unelectable if he is our nominee) because of it.

And while I completely agree, it’s a dang shame we didn’t properly use this issue in 1992 against Clinton when it was equally true!


133 posted on 12/11/2007 12:32:12 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism)
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To: Callahan
Which Bush states does Huckabee lose to Hillary in your estimation?
Ohio, for one.
134 posted on 12/11/2007 12:36:54 PM PST by samtheman
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To: RockinRight
But Mitt is still better than Huck.

Why Because he has flip-flopped on more issues? Mitt wit's record is almost entirely liberal. He can't even buy off enough voters to beat Huckabee in Iowa so no one is buying his attempt to pass himself off as conservative.

Willard is a phony.

135 posted on 12/11/2007 12:43:09 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: rmlew
Bush was a mistake foisted upon us by the elites and media 9 years ago.

The media was doing its best to push McCain on the Republican party nine years ago.

136 posted on 12/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: WOSG
Mitt Romney’s entire campaign platform and plan is 100% Ronald Reagan - family values, strong military, fiscal conservativism. If we went by the best plans and the best campaign, Mitt should be a shoo-in.

If the Romulan is 100 percent Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton must be 100 percent Honest Abe Lincoln...NOT!

137 posted on 12/11/2007 12:45:54 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: RockinRight
I have no idea what would possess Gilchrist to do this.

$$$$$$$$$$$$ and attention. The Minutemen's fundraising is falling apart, and there are other questions about the group. Dukakabee is probably the only candidate who would return his calls.

138 posted on 12/11/2007 12:47:25 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Scary thought: Half of all people are dumber than the average person.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Dukakabee. I can’t believe that’s the first time I’ve seen that.


139 posted on 12/11/2007 12:48:33 PM PST by RockinRight (Bill Clinton + Jimmuh Carter + Pat Robertson + Barack Obama + Gomer Pyle = Mike Huckabee)
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To: WOSG
Mitt Romney is by FAR the most genuine

What load of crap. Romney's record is almost completely liberal in Massachussets. He is likely flip-flopped on more issues than Giuliani.

Opposing Huckabee is one thing. Trying to pass of the Mitt wit as the superior RINO is laughable.

Mitt Romney, liberal:

http://www.observer.com/node/31126

Mitt Romney: A Massachusetts Liberal for President:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/mitt_romney_a_massachusetts_li.html

The Mitt Romney Deception:

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/

140 posted on 12/11/2007 12:53:24 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: dano1; pissant; Petronski
First Kirkorian and now Gilchrist. Huckabee appears to have the approval of our leading conservative experts on how to deal with the illegal immigration crisis.

Does Pat Robertson's endorsement of Rudy erase his immoral past, much less his record? No.

So why should we expect Gilchrist's endorsement to erase Huckabee's record on illegal immigration?

141 posted on 12/11/2007 12:53:44 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

One of our more experienced photoshopper types should do a “Morph of the Mikes.” Dukakis into Huckabee.


142 posted on 12/11/2007 12:53:56 PM PST by RockinRight (Bill Clinton + Jimmuh Carter + Pat Robertson + Barack Obama + Gomer Pyle = Mike Huckabee)
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To: RockinRight
But Mitt is still better than Huck. Why not him?

Benito was better than Adolph; Mao was better than Stalin; Ho Chi Mihn was better than Pol Pot; and Geraldine Ferraro is better than Hillary Clinton...the definition is in the degree of "better". IMO, neither Mitt or Huck are any good...check their military records for proof.

143 posted on 12/11/2007 1:02:10 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: JamesP81
I think that the game that the RNC is playing is to get someone pro-illegal nominated. If both candidates are pro-illegal, it removes it as an issue in the election. That allows the RNC to pander to the illegal aliens who will be voting once they get amnesty rammed through without any inconvenient electoral threat from the party base, at least in the short term. I think this is a strategy to avoid a repeat of 2006.

In actuality, it will cause a repeat of 2006. What the MSM failed to report was that the Republicans lost 8% of the white vote in 2006. All we heard about was how much of the hispanic vote was lost. The Republicans lost a large portion of their base vote by hispandering and trying to out-liberal the democrats. And here we go again.
144 posted on 12/11/2007 1:05:56 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: NeoCaveman
Actually this might be a brilliant strategy:
If illegal immigration ended, then he'd be out of a job; so by ensuring continuous illegal immigration he ensures future cash flow from trying to "stop" it.

I had the exact same thought. Gilchrist is hoping to maintain the status quo, not fix the problem. Bye-bye, credibility.

145 posted on 12/11/2007 1:09:19 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Callahan
All that matters is can he beat a shrill, super-lib in the purple states after we dish on her bozo husbands constant humiliating affairs.

Now, that's definetly beyong a one-issue statement. You're saying that no issues matter at all and the ONLY important thing is to win. That's a policy just full of principles and values. I bet our founding fathers would disagree.
146 posted on 12/11/2007 1:10:07 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: pissant

Gee, another sell-out. A disturbing trend. Politics makes people go insane, apparently.


147 posted on 12/11/2007 1:12:16 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: untrained skeptic
He said he didn't agree with Huck on every part of his stance on illegal immigration, but that his new plan to combat illegal immigration had won him over.

I do like the part about them having 120 days to register and leave. That creates a definite timeline and makes them make a decision. After that, we can enforce our laws and get rid of the rest - for 10 years. The article also said his plan was very strict on employers. I haven't seen it, but punishing employers severely has to be one of the first steps, IMO.

But, I'm pretty disgusted that people are buying into these last-minute conversions.
148 posted on 12/11/2007 1:13:25 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: pissant
The world is upside down. This is like the Wayne LaPierre endorsing Rudy.

To confirm your world observation, we recall that Pat Robertson DID endorse Rudy.

149 posted on 12/11/2007 1:13:58 PM PST by montag813
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To: pissant
Huckabee last week announced a get-tough immigration plan, proposing to construct a border fence with surveillance cameras by July 1, 2010, calling for an increase to the number of Border Patrol agents and imposing steep penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Yup, them cameras are really good about arresting people - hey, I bet after a 14 month investigation, watching drugs cross the border, they'll nail a couple of Border Patrol agents for doing their job..

150 posted on 12/11/2007 1:14:05 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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