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6 shot after exiting Vegas school bus
AP Yahoo! ^ | 12/12/07 | RYAN NAKASHIMA

Posted on 12/11/2007 4:50:40 PM PST by charles m

LAS VEGAS - Six junior high or high school students were shot Tuesday after they got off a school bus, and two were critically hurt, police said.

Gunshots rang out in northeast Las Vegas just before 2 p.m., Officer Bill Cassell said.

Six young people were transported to area hospitals. Four had minor gunshot injuries and two were in critical condition, Cassell said.

At least two people are believed to have taken part in the shootings, he said. Police were not saying whether the shooting suspects were on foot or in a vehicle.

The shooting occurred less than a mile from two elementary schools, Woolley and Clyde Cox Elementary Schools. A Clark County School District official said the schools were not closed.

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Associated Press writer Kathleen Hennessey contributed to this report.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Six junior high or high school students were shot Tuesday after they got off a school bus, and two were critically hurt, police said.

Gunshots rang out in northeast Las Vegas just before 2 p.m., Officer Bill Cassell said.

Six young people were transported to area hospitals. Four had minor gunshot injuries and two were in critical condition, Cassell said.

At least two people are believed to have taken part in the shootings, he said. Police were not saying whether the shooting suspects were on foot or in a vehicle.


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To: shag377
..some children, young children, have been seriously hurt and need some serious help.

Shag..I think that's the whole point.

How will these children ever get help if we continue to pour money down the rat hole of a seriously flawed system?

How will we ever turn it around?

Prayer is fine but it won't tackle the central problem we have associated with the poor, unacceptable performance of today's big city (and some entire states) public school system.

A good man like George Bush has tried to turn the system around, poured countless amounts of resources and money into it and yet....

151 posted on 12/12/2007 5:31:50 AM PST by evad
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To: Gabz
..do not want to go to the only private HS in the area because it is a haven for the bad kids and the gangs.

A private school that's a haven for bad kids and gangs??

This isn't a reform school ..is it?

I would really, really like to read about such a private school. Does it have a name??

152 posted on 12/12/2007 5:36:19 AM PST by evad
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To: Unknowing
CCW gift packs

LOL..terrific idea, and just in time for Christmas.

153 posted on 12/12/2007 5:58:31 AM PST by evad
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To: the808bass
The PD has a gang unit. Not the school. We now return you to your regularly scheduled 3 Stooges episode.
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So?..Why is there a need for the personal insult?

The following is from the CNN Report which can be found at this site: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/12/bus.stop.shooting.ap/index.html

“Police said they believed the shooting was linked to a fight at Mojave earlier in the day. The brawl had been contained by school police, who arrested three male students, officials said.”

My rhetorical question still remains. Why on earth would rational parents send children into an environment that needs gang unit in their school? I will add another question. Why are parents sending children to a school that needs “school police”?

Answer:

1)Free babysitting is very addicting.

2) The parents are unable to ransom their children from the government indoctrination camp by paying private tuition and/or homeschooling.

Please remember, thebass8080, that government schools are compulsory for all those who can not privately or home school their children. Compulsion means police, court, and foster care action. If a parent resists the government school bureaucracy armed police will soon be at their door. If they resist, the armed police will arrest them. If they are sufficiently resistant, the police will kill them. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)

Aren’t government indoctrination camps great? ( barf!)

154 posted on 12/12/2007 6:02:51 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: evad; Gabz
A private school that’s a haven for bad kids and gangs??

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I am scratching my head too wondering about this, too.

Hm?...We have a few private “schools” like that too in my state. I think all states do. They are very expensive and exclusive military style camps for kids with drug problems.

155 posted on 12/12/2007 6:07:31 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: shag377; evad
Rather than bash public schools or extol homeschool virtues,
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From the CNN report this particular school needs some “bashing”.

I will pray that parents and kids will soon find some way to get out of that horrible environment.

156 posted on 12/12/2007 6:11:44 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: evad
How will these children ever get help if we continue to pour money down the rat hole of a seriously flawed system?

What we have is a flawed system working within a flawed society. Schools instituted a weak curriculum (Everyday Math, Look-Say Reading). That does seem to be turning around.

However, in society, we have also seen larger numbers of broken homes, more single parents, more permissive parenting, and an upswing in lawsuits.

All of these things combined have given us the results we see today. If you are of the opinion that public schools have NEVER been a good solution, that's fine. I don't agree. Schools used to teach the basics better. Society used to do a better job too.

But to take the problems we see today and insist that the whole problem is the flawed school system is ridiculous. Education will not be fixed by abolishing public schools because that will only put more pressure on the societal problems we have.

Kids who live in chaos, kids whose parents can't get things together enough to get them to a free breakfast on time aren't going to suddenly function well enough to seek out good educational opportunities. Heck, they won't even remove their kids from failing schools when given the opportunity to do so!

I don't feel hopeful for the future of our inner city schools and students. I wish I had a solution to their many problems. I don't.

157 posted on 12/12/2007 6:18:44 AM PST by Dianna
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To: knarf
Ever since the SC announced they would take the District of Columbia v. Heller 2nd Amendment case the nut jobs have been popping their corks all over.

Just a coincidence, right?

158 posted on 12/12/2007 6:21:18 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Amelia

Everything is fine... The NEA knows what to do. Go back to sleep.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but rationalizations are not going to cut it. The public school system is controlled by liberal relativists intent on destroying every last moral absolute.

All this teacher-as-hero propaganda aside, if public school teachers really thought there was something wrong with the system, they would change it. The truth is, the ones that think there’s a problem go along with the program anyway because of.. well, some rationalization or another.

Isn’t the point of a teachers union to represent the teachers?


159 posted on 12/12/2007 6:28:21 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Quix; Gilbo_3; FoxPro; omega4179
Ever since the SC announced they would take the District of Columbia v. Heller 2nd Amendment case the nut jobs have been popping their corks all over.

What a coincidence, right?

160 posted on 12/12/2007 6:30:14 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Good point.

We shall see how many such ‘eruptions’ we have.

If it goes over 5 . . . I’ll agree more wholesale.

I suspect you MAY be right anyway . . . but we shall see.

Evidently the TECHNOLOGIES exist to easily identify and wind someone up and even to send them off specifically on specific such deeds . . . even from somewhat of a distance.

Incredible stuff only hinted at in usually obscure documents.

Who knows what’s true. But so many diverse sources make some increidble claims about mind control experiments . . . must be some fire behind the smoke.


161 posted on 12/12/2007 6:37:29 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ecomcon
Sorry for the sarcasm, but rationalizations are not going to cut it. The public school system is controlled by liberal relativists intent on destroying every last moral absolute.

They are controlled by Marxists who are single minded in their goal to destroy the freedom made possible by Western Civilization. To help them they have armies of Lenin's Useful Idiots.

We are in a philosophical civil war and freedom will not win unless we start calling the enemy what it really is: Marxism.

All this teacher-as-hero propaganda aside, if public school teachers really thought there was something wrong with the system, they would change it. The truth is, the ones that think there’s a problem go along with the program anyway because of.. well, some rationalization or another.

Yes! If teachers wanted to change it they would. Citizens can not be a member of the NEA only teachers can be. Citizens can not call a strike for rational teaching practices, only they can. If teachers can strong arm a school board for higher salaries, they could do the same for reading and math programs that work, and sound discipline practices. They don't though.

point of a teachers union to represent the teachers?

The point of all unions is to protect their members. Unfortunately, the students don't have a union to protect them.

There is really only one solution:

Shut done government schools, and start over with a completely private system. If enough parents "go on strike" ( by removing their children from the government schools), the above will happen.

162 posted on 12/12/2007 6:48:04 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: NVDave
What Las Vegas is in Nevada, but Las Vegas != Nevada.

Got that right. Las Vegas = East East LA.

Las Vegas is filled with more head cases than you can count.

Spot on again.

163 posted on 12/12/2007 6:52:44 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Quix
It was somewhat crude but effective in the late 50's and 60's. It has been 50 years now, technology and drugs have come a long way.

Probably don't even need to use folks that have been "in the hospital" anymore.

164 posted on 12/12/2007 6:53:26 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Can you elaborate from definite knowledge about any of the more likely technologies . . . preferred technologies?

or even from well researched knowledge.

Either in the thread or by FREEPMAIL?

The beaming stuff into brains by certain wavelengths stuff sounds really . . . horridly effective . . . depending.


165 posted on 12/12/2007 7:01:01 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ecomcon
The public school system is controlled by liberal relativists intent on destroying every last moral absolute.

Perhaps you could draw a flow chart for a local school system which shows where the liberal relativists are located.

It's probably comforting to people to paint public schools with a broad brush and assume they're all bad. It isn't the case. Local control is ultimate in public schools. There's a superintendent (locally) and principals (locally) and principals. If the superintendent is a liberal relativist with liberal relativist principals and teachers under them, then you have a point. Otherwise, you have no idea what you're talking about.

166 posted on 12/12/2007 7:27:17 AM PST by the808bass
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To: wintertime
Why are parents sending children to a school that needs “school police”?

The same reason that people attend a church that has armed guards. It's a fact of life in America today, not just public schools. Cloistering yourself in your home doesn't change that reality. And it doesn't keep your kid "safe." It does keep you in control to some extent, which can be comforting.

167 posted on 12/12/2007 7:29:27 AM PST by the808bass
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To: metmom
It sounds like the way they were treated at the school had a big impact on their behavior.

And that applies to this case how? Oh, right, it doesn't. Now if the family that these gang-bangers belonged to were not socioeconomically disadavantaged or if the kid had a parent who valued education enough to scrimp and save for a private education, then maybe they would have been saved from the influences in the community. So, I think my statement still stands.

168 posted on 12/12/2007 7:47:50 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

The end product is liberal relativist indoctrination. Not education. If you can’t see that, enjoy.


169 posted on 12/12/2007 7:49:09 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: charles m

I was at Vegas sitting at a bar talking to a local social worker. She was going on and on about the huge amount of gang violence in the city. Talking about how of the strip it’s a hopeless war zone of punk kids.
Almost made me reconsider my next trip there.


170 posted on 12/12/2007 7:52:48 AM PST by mowowie
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To: the808bass

You think private education is any better? Think again.

I know plenty of families who go for it and the stories I hear rival public schools.


171 posted on 12/12/2007 7:53:16 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: the808bass; wintertime

Nobody said cloistering. Homeschooling is not cloistering.

And, yes, it would keep your kids safer, because they’re not confined in a gun free building that screams “target”. Not putting your kids in a situation where you know the chances are higher of physical harm coming to them IS keeping them safer. It’s not an illusion.


172 posted on 12/12/2007 7:56:35 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: yorkie
What's going on in this country?

If it bleeds, it leads..and Tragedy T.V. apparently sells.

Do you realize..someone gets shot every day in L.A. county.

Generally it's gang vs. gang shootings...

173 posted on 12/12/2007 7:57:00 AM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: mowowie
Talking about how of the strip it’s a hopeless war zone of punk kids. Almost made me reconsider my next trip there.

No need - the Strip remains surprisingly safe, and so are the nicer, upscale neighborhoods a few miles away. Las Vegas is no different than any other city in America these days: its lower and lower-middle class neighborhoods are overrun with feral humans and law enforcement isn't going to expend resources on areas that don't contribute much to the tax base.

174 posted on 12/12/2007 8:02:51 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Since I don’t keep news stories and articles, I shall live by your tag-line. I leave it to you to disprove.

I can state that my Niece was strongly advised to give her ADHD (read: unruly brat) son Ritalin or he would be kicked out of school.

How many 10-12YO school girls are being forced to take some kind of medicine even though it is against the parent’s values? Even, vaccinations are a push in my humble opinion.

175 posted on 12/12/2007 8:17:53 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: TLI
The work of evil by human as well as satan & co. will continue, as it has until the end times arrive. the difference being that more and more of the 'minions' are in positions of power in media/politics/academia so we will see more as a percentage to fool more people into choosing the wrong side.

eventually [maybe that time is here] there will be an all out assault by evil, which will of course be met by a triumphal counter-attack that will cost many lives. doesnt really matter, I know today that I will fight against evil as God sees fit. He is the Master and will settle all this as He has planned...

176 posted on 12/12/2007 8:36:51 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Dianna
If you are of the opinion that public schools have NEVER been a good solution, that's fine.

No Dianna, I don't think that.
As a matter of fact, I know differently.
Public Schools use to be an excellent learning institution, even in the big cities.

But, like it or not, that's all changed now and despite the countless number of reasons for the institution's demise it is a fact that they are what they are.

What to do about it? I don't have all the answers either but the present course is unacceptable.

177 posted on 12/12/2007 9:10:37 AM PST by evad
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To: wintertime; Gabz
Hm?...We have a few private “schools” like that too in my state. I think all states do. They are very expensive and exclusive military style camps for kids with drug problems.

heh..yeah.
THAT kind of private school I understand. I think they call them boot camps, like old time reform schools.

178 posted on 12/12/2007 9:19:29 AM PST by evad
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To: Old Sarge

Yeah.The gangbangers out there are always copying each other.


179 posted on 12/12/2007 9:20:18 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (God Rides a Harley-when his VTX is in the shop,that is!!)
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To: the808bass

Text books and Federal mandates

include layers and intensities of anti-Constitutional, anti-Christian, globalist liberalism

quite apart from the School Board and/or Superintendent.

Add in the teachers colleges and universities—the influences are more than considerable.


180 posted on 12/12/2007 9:22:30 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: metmom

Certainly there are horror stories in both spheres.

Home schoolers need a way to police the movement and homes without being off the wall.


181 posted on 12/12/2007 9:23:58 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Gilbo_3

eventually [maybe that time is here] there will be an all out assault by evil, which will of course be met by a triumphal counter-attack that will cost many lives. doesnt really matter, I know today that I will fight against evil as God sees fit. He is the Master and will settle all this as He has planned...

= = =

WELL PUT. Thx.


182 posted on 12/12/2007 9:26:31 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SoftballMominVA; dbacks
Please cite an example where a school district diagnosed, purchased, and administered a controlled substance to a child.

They're pushing for it in Mass. with trying to allow young girls barely into puberty to go on the pill, dispensed with or without parental notification or knowledge, by the school nurse.

And then there's the *if you don't follow your doctor's advice, we'll blow you into social services* route. If the kid's put into foster care and he becomes a ward of the state, they can give him any medication they deem necessary.

I seem to recall some drug testing for AIDS/HIV on foster care kids but don't remember where it occurred. It was some years back.

Parental rights mean nothing if social services gets into the act and if it's the school putting pressure on DSS, then the school has essentially prescribed and overseen the administration of the drug.

183 posted on 12/12/2007 9:39:19 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: evad
A private school that's a haven for bad kids and gangs??

Yes.

This isn't a reform school ..is it?

Unfortunately, not.

I would really, really like to read about such a private school.

You won't read about that stuff around here because it is kept very, very quiet. The k-8 is fine, and in fact offers some exceptional programs, the HS is where the problems are. The academics are fairly decent, the atmosphere is the pits. It's the only private HS in the county, and they will take any student whose parents can foot the bill..........including those kicked out of the public school system.

As I have said many times, all education systems have their problems, none are perfect. We all must choose what we deem is best for our own child and should stop denegrating those who make different choices, for whatever reason.

184 posted on 12/12/2007 9:45:42 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: knarf

Isn’t NE Vegas gang-infested? I think ...


185 posted on 12/12/2007 9:54:00 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: wintertime; evad
Hm?...We have a few private “schools” like that too in my state. I think all states do. They are very expensive and exclusive military style camps for kids with drug problems.

You think you're cute..........you're not.

Academics do matter in this "academy," however the ability to pay the tuition bill matters far more and more times than not a blind eye is turned toward the problems.

I do not partake of any illicit pharmaceuticals, and am considered rather naive on how one acquires such, but even I know I just need to hook up with a student of this HS to get anything available.

My child is only in 4th grade, but I have friends with teenagers and not a one would put any of their kids in that school, and the majority can afford the tuition. 2 friends who are homeschoolers have told me they would put their children in the public schools in this district before they would even consider that private school. And these friends are natives to the area and are not new to homeschooling, considering 3 of 6 of their combined kids are now in college and of the other 3, 2 are elementary and 1 is of middle school age.

BTW, unlike some homeschool advocates I have encountered, these homeschooling moms actually support me in my decision to have my child in public school.

186 posted on 12/12/2007 10:01:56 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: metmom

I agree that what you describe is all too true and looming larger all the time.

SHRILLERY would run wild with such.


187 posted on 12/12/2007 10:10:58 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I have to agree with the concept of the hired bus drivers. That’s a scary thought actually. (thinking about those who have quick tempers, short fuses, not enough eyes, experience and age)


188 posted on 12/12/2007 10:56:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is the 4th major shooting within the last week. Very disturbing trend.

I seriously doubt that these represent any statistical anomaly. They just happened to occur in a slow news period and therefore became "breaking news".

189 posted on 12/12/2007 11:09:37 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: Gabz
Yikes!

Best wishes for you and your kid.

Have a nice day.

190 posted on 12/12/2007 11:19:28 AM PST by evad
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yea the strip always feels safe. Go one block over in some places though and you suddenly feel like you have just been transported to Mexico.
Still, I’ve gone for the past 7 Mays I plan to keep going.

Great place to hang out. I love to just sit at a bar with a Video poker machine in front of me and free drinks in my hand with a ballgame on the tv. :)


191 posted on 12/12/2007 11:40:56 AM PST by mowowie
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I like that feral human term. It’s a good one and it really fits the description.


192 posted on 12/12/2007 11:42:22 AM PST by mowowie
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Whoops, I didn’t want that safe strip comment to sound sarcastic.
I DO feel extemely safe there. lol


193 posted on 12/12/2007 11:54:23 AM PST by mowowie
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To: evad

There are no “Yikes” needed, but I understand your sentiment.

Homeschooling is wonderful and I applaud all those that do it well, it is just not for our family. This is something my husband and I realized years ago and so knew we needed to move from where we lived because the educational choices were absolutely pathetic.

I have had my problems with the district and have addressed them, but generally I have prevailed because I am a participant, not a user. If the time comes the district is not addressing things I believe it should, I will then look to other alternatives.

Have a splendid day.


194 posted on 12/12/2007 12:06:41 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: ecomcon

If only you thinking things made them so. Such a much better place it would be.

The fact that you did not attempt to answer the question should tell you something. I’m sure it won’t.


195 posted on 12/12/2007 1:13:21 PM PST by the808bass
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To: metmom
I know plenty of families who go for it and the stories I hear rival public schools.

So, no public schooling. No private schooling. I think you're beginning to make my point for me. If you have kids who are born to single-parent moms, then they are most likely going to end up in public school. Unless you're establishing a program to pay single moms to stay at home and homeschool. Which, of course, you're not.

So my original point stands. These kids in this story were (I'd say a CI of .01, chuckle, I crack me up) stuck in their environment. They had no option to be homeschooled. And if that doesn't make you think of the million other forces at work in this story (other than the big bad public school), then you are not trying.

196 posted on 12/12/2007 1:37:09 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Quix
Text books and Federal mandates

include layers and intensities of anti-Constitutional, anti-Christian, globalist liberalism

quite apart from the School Board and/or Superintendent.

Add in the teachers colleges and universities—the influences are more than considerable.

And yet the local district still gets to choose its curriculum and the principals and directors of curriculum and instruction oversee what is actually taught. All you need is one good principal with a vision and a good knowledge of instruction to take a school and make it a performing school. This includes removing non-performing teachers (Don't say it can't be done, a school in our area "encouraged" 10 or more of a total of 29 to move along to greener pastures by simply requiring accountability for what they were doing in the classroom. Once it became clear to the teachers they couldn't coast into retirement, they retired or moved to other districts.)

With accountability comes performance. If you get a good principal who holds teachers accountable for results, you'll see districts perform. One of the key problems of public schools is that too many principals are managers and not instructional leaders. Thus, they cannot walk into a classroom and tell you if the teacher's doing a good job. Thus there is no accountability for the teacher to actually teach. Just show up. Don't make waves. And eventually retire. Accountability to a trained instructional professional changes all that. Sorry for the rant, but I've seen amazing results from people who are motivated to change their district and actually implement instructional plans to do just that (with a heavy focus on reading at the elementary level).

197 posted on 12/12/2007 1:45:48 PM PST by the808bass
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To: metmom
Nobody said cloistering. Homeschooling is not cloistering.

Homeschooling is not necessarily cloistering. You cannot say that all homeschoolers are not cloistered.

You don't like generalizations about homeschoolers but have no problem with them when applying them to public schools. Pourquoi?

198 posted on 12/12/2007 1:47:54 PM PST by the808bass
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To: wintertime

“Why are parents sending children to a school that needs “school police”?”

Why people send their children to churches that have armed guards? Why do they let them shop in malls or stores that have to have security or armed guards?


199 posted on 12/12/2007 1:56:08 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: dbacks
As long as public schools can force Ritalin and other mind altering drugs on kids without parental notification, the schools will be lousy .

Can they do that in your state? They can't in mine. Teachers aren't allowed to prescribe drugs, or even suggest students might need them. It's considered "practicing medicine without a license" or something similar.

Maybe you need to be talking to your state lawmakers.

I will note that while these were students, this didn't happen at school, or even on school property. It happened after the students were effectively "home".

200 posted on 12/12/2007 3:49:08 PM PST by Amelia
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