Posted on 12/11/2007 7:16:53 PM PST by calcowgirl
... Giuliani's concern for Nathan's security should not come as a surprise to anyone. In his best-selling 2002 memoir "Leadership," Giuliani recounts that one of his main concerns on Sept. 11, 2001 was that the terrorists who attacked the Twin Towers and Pentagon might also be coming after Nathan. He describes his priorities after he and his top advisers finally managed to find a site, a firehouse, to serve as a new command center after fleeing the one at the World Trade Center. He and his team called city hospitals to make sure they were ready for the injured. Then they made sure other possible targets such as the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building and Stock Exchange were under extra guard. Then, he writes, he called his "loved ones" -- first Hanover, to tell her he had sent extra security to evacuate Gracie Mansion, the mayoral residence, and then Nathan, both to reassure her that he was okay and to check on her security.
"I called Judith Nathan, who had been by my side for two difficult years," Giuliani writes. "Our relationship at that point was very public, and she, too, had received threats. I thought those attacking the city might go after her, and I wanted to make sure she was safe." He continues, "When I finally got on the phone, I told Judith I loved her and that she must stay in her apartment -- that she'd be safest there and that security was already on the way."
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But YOU certainly implied it--that it made sense to dispatch security for Judi because "he also had many enemies before 9-11."
Or, is your emotional attachment to Rudy such that you feel that it is impossible for him to have been involved in a theft of government services?
I don't want to sound callous, but it's really not the business of the NYPD if the wife physically attacks the mistress outside the city limits. Rudy had no business stealing city taz money to pay for the girlfriend's protection outside the city.
bfl
I guess I will post more s l o w l y.
Protection details are there to provide security for VIPs that, if they were targeted, would compromise the executive.
The Secret Service, for example, provides security not just for the POTUS, but members of the family and ANYONE that, were they targeted, would interfere with the executive’s ability to do his job.
The President’s daughters get SS protection not because their lives matter to the country. They don’t. They get proection because getting to the family is a way to get to the President.
Same for any Governor, or in this case a Mayor. The minute that the Mayor of NYC has a girlfriend, married or not, that girlfriend damn well better be getting a security detail. Anything less would be a dereliction of their duty to protect the Mayor from threats that may interfere with the ability to do his job.
Oh, puhleeze. Shall we dispatch security for city council members, too? How about school prinicipals? How about the accountant for the state pension fund? You seem to accept your elected citizens as royalty, being deserving of special perks.
But, I will ask again—What specific threat was there to Judi?
Bloomberg’s girlfriend doesn’t have a police detail and this is post 911 which as you know “changed everything.”
Reference Rudy's mistress, "Mayors have a right to a personal life, too, dontcha know????? /s
have to agree with Ramius here
this is a non-issue
it is entirely conceivable that elements of organized crime or disorganized crime or just a random new york crazy would target the wife/girlfriend/son/daughter/grandmother et. al. of the mayor of new york city
hence the security detail
don’t like it ? well if you pay your taxes to NYC you may have a legitimate opinion/complaint, otherwise you are just grinding an axe.
Just dusting off another FR username, huh?
With respect to mother, grandmother—that would hardly be necessary as mama’s brother was in the mob
and she didn’t have a security detail before her 2002 death.
As to the mob hit rumors, that has been debunked. Do your homework.
Being “entirely conceivable” still does not answer the question:
What specific threat was made against Judi?
(That was the justification for the security detail, not some “conceivable” event)
A politician should pay for their mistresses protection with their own money. Government money should be reserved for spouse’s protection.
It might make sense that he wanted to protect his girlfriend, but it doesn't make any sense that he thought he was entitled to use city employees to protect her.
Beats me. I don't really care. I just don't think this matter is all that unreasonable, and I sure don't think it's some huge scandal that has any nationwide play.
There's other issues with Rudy that I'd like to see him deal with first. Not this peripheral stuff. Guns especially. That's his biggest problem. I'd like see some evidence that he has no interest in pushing gun control.
I'm actually leaning toward Thompson at this point. But Rudy may end up being the nominee. If he can make it clear that gun control won't be on his agenda... well then he might must make a decent President. Nothing else about him really bugs me all that much. Until then, though, I keep hoping that Thompson can somehow build some momentum.
(1) Every NYC mayor gets a security detail 24/7 which is a standard budget item as is the Mayor's family's security detail. If Rudy had simply stayed home with his wife and kids acting like the paradigm family man he conned the public into believing he was, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE INCURRED EXTRA EXPENSES for gas, hotels & meal per diems, and occasional airline bills. These bills exposed Rooty's extramarital activities and become fodder for the NY press (and the thing that probably sank his bid for US Senator).
(2) Yes, Rudy was married and porking his mistress. Bad enough---but the coverup is what's at issue here. The malfeasance committed intemded meant to coverup the married Mayor was getting it on with his mistress.
(3) Rudy secretly buried these expenses in obscure agencies.....that in itself is an admission of guilt.
(4) Rudy assigned six officers and police cars and drivers to guard his mistress, her NYC apartment building and her Hampton's condo. Police also walked her dog and drove her friends around......all at taxpayers' expense.
And all of it IN EXCESS of what the married Mayor was already alotted for security for himself, and his family.
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